Old browser experiments revisited

Revisiting some old browser experiments. This couples the ClassDriller with a multi-codePane browser to see if seeing more is really better.

To use, do something like:
Color bobsDriller
Dictionary bobsDriller
...etc...

and then start drilling.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28914094/BobsBrowser2.4.cs.gz

For Squeak 4.3. Requires underscore assignment.

Cheers,
Bob

Thank you Bob,

it would be nice to have this tested/updated for Squeak 4.4 and put
into the "app store" (New Squeak Map entry)

--Hannes



On 1/4/13, Bob Arning <[hidden email]> wrote:

P.S. AFAIK SqueakMap can store code. This is safer than having it only
in a drop box.

--Hannes

On 1/4/13, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:

I haven't tried 4.4 yet and suspect there is some work in progress there that will need adjustments, so I'll postpone that for a while. Mine is also still exploratory so getting formal with it is a bit premature.

Cheers,
Bob

Thank you Bob,

it would be nice to have this tested/updated for Squeak 4.4 and put
into the "app store" (New Squeak Map entry)

--Hannes



On 1/4/13, Bob Arning [hidden email] wrote:

Revisiting some old browser experiments. This couples the ClassDriller
with a multi-codePane browser to see if seeing more is really better.

To use, do something like:
Color bobsDriller
Dictionary bobsDriller
...etc...

and then start drilling.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28914094/BobsBrowser2.4.cs.gz

For Squeak 4.3. Requires underscore assignment.

Cheers,
Bob

Bob,

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28914094/BobsBrowser2.4.cs.gz

files in fine into http://ftp.squeak.org/4.4/Squeak4.4-12327.zip
(= the release of 4.4)

The attached screen shot shows the result after evaluating
   BobsBrowser browseAllClasses

(see class comment of BobsBrowser )

Everything seems to work fine. Only that #beep was removed and now

BobsBrowser>>
doRecentMethodsMenu: buttonAndEvent

        | menuItems |

        menuItems _ self recentMethodsAsItems.
        menuItems isEmpty ifTrue: [^ self beep].

cannot call it (click on the 'RM' button). A very minor thing.

I think I will work with it in the next days to see how it goes.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

BTW do you (re)license this as MIT, i.e. the same license as Squeak 4.n?

--Hannes


On 1/4/13, Bob Arning <[hidden email]> wrote:

Bob,

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28914094/BobsBrowser2.4.cs.gz

files in fine into http://ftp.squeak.org/4.4/Squeak4.4-12327.zip
(= the release of 4.4)

The attached screen shot shows the result after evaluating
   BobsBrowser browseAllClasses

(see class comment of BobsBrowser )

Everything seems to work fine. Only that #beep was removed and now

BobsBrowser>>
doRecentMethodsMenu: buttonAndEvent

	| menuItems |

	menuItems _ self recentMethodsAsItems.
	menuItems isEmpty ifTrue: [^ self beep].

cannot call it (click on the 'RM' button). A very minor thing.

I think I will work with it in the next days to see how it goes.

You will find more bugs in BobsBrowser as you go deeper. The work I have done in 4.3 was primarily linking the Driller to the multi-paned browser as in "Color bobsDriller"

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

BTW do you (re)license this as MIT, i.e. the same license as Squeak 4.n?

Not being a lawyer, I do not pretend to understand licenses. What I will say is:
1. I wrote this stuff.
2. I place no restrictions on how you use it.

Cheers,
Bob

--Hannes


On 1/4/13, Bob Arning [hidden email] wrote:

I haven't tried 4.4 yet and suspect there is some work in progress there
that will need adjustments, so I'll postpone that for a while. Mine is
also still exploratory so getting formal with it is a bit premature.

Cheers,
Bob

On 1/4/13 12:47 PM, H. Hirzel wrote:

Thank you Bob,

it would be nice to have this tested/updated for Squeak 4.4 and put
into the "app store" (New Squeak Map entry)

--Hannes



On 1/4/13, Bob Arning [hidden email] wrote:

Revisiting some old browser experiments. This couples the ClassDriller
with a multi-codePane browser to see if seeing more is really better.

To use, do something like:
Color bobsDriller
Dictionary bobsDriller
...etc...

and then start drilling.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28914094/BobsBrowser2.4.cs.gz

For Squeak 4.3. Requires underscore assignment.

Cheers,
Bob

On 4 January 2013 19:56, Bob Arning <[hidden email]> wrote:
That's not far off MIT :):

Copyright (c) 2013 Foo

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining
a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the
"Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including
without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish,
distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to
permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to
the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be
included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND,
EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF
MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.
IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY
CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT,
TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE
SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.

Bob,

do you agree with this?

It is the same license as all Squeak 4.n versions are licensed.


It means that

a)
one can copy and change anything into an external Squeak package but
has to include

Portions (if not copied everything)

Copyright (c) 1999-2012 Bob Arning
and the license text


b)
It means that parts of your code may be included in Squeak 4.n without
problems. In that case the author name would only be mentioned in the
methods signatures.


This is a formality but an important one.

--Hannes

On 1/4/13, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote:

Not really. I have *no* interest in my name appearing in conjunction with "Copyright (c)." If someone declines to use my code for that reason, so be it. The world is waaaay over-lawyered and I want to avoid any action that even looks like contributing. This all seems rather beside the point since there is no consideration about including this in *the* Squeak image. Should that day ever arrive, feel free to assert the copyright in your own name if that helps.

Cheers,
Bob

Bob,

do you agree with this?

It is the same license as all Squeak 4.n versions are licensed.


It means that

a)
one can copy and change anything into an external Squeak package but
has to include

Portions (if not copied everything)

Copyright (c) 1999-2012 Bob Arning
and the license text


b)
It means that parts of your code may be included in Squeak 4.n without
problems. In that case the author name would only be mentioned in the
methods signatures.


This is a formality but an important one.

--Hannes

On 1/4/13, Frank Shearar [hidden email] wrote:

On 4 January 2013 19:56, Bob Arning [hidden email] wrote:

On 1/4/13 2:37 PM, H. Hirzel wrote:

Bob,

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28914094/BobsBrowser2.4.cs.gz

files in fine into http://ftp.squeak.org/4.4/Squeak4.4-12327.zip
(= the release of 4.4)

The attached screen shot shows the result after evaluating
   BobsBrowser browseAllClasses

(see class comment of BobsBrowser )

Everything seems to work fine. Only that #beep was removed and now

BobsBrowser>>
doRecentMethodsMenu: buttonAndEvent

	| menuItems |

	menuItems _ self recentMethodsAsItems.
	menuItems isEmpty ifTrue: [^ self beep].

cannot call it (click on the 'RM' button). A very minor thing.

I think I will work with it in the next days to see how it goes.

You will find more bugs in BobsBrowser as you go deeper. The work I have
done in 4.3 was primarily linking the Driller to the multi-paned browser
as
in "Color bobsDriller"


Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

BTW do you (re)license this as MIT, i.e. the same license as Squeak 4.n?

Not being a lawyer, I do not pretend to understand licenses. What I will
say
is:
1. I wrote this stuff.
2. I place no restrictions on how you use it.

That's not far off MIT :):

Copyright (c) 2013 Foo

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining
a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the
"Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including
without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish,
distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to
permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to
the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be
included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND,
EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF
MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.
IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY
CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT,
TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE
SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.

Cheers,
Bob


--Hannes


On 1/4/13, Bob Arning [hidden email] wrote:

I haven't tried 4.4 yet and suspect there is some work in progress there
that will need adjustments, so I'll postpone that for a while. Mine is
also still exploratory so getting formal with it is a bit premature.

Cheers,
Bob

On 1/4/13 12:47 PM, H. Hirzel wrote:

Thank you Bob,

it would be nice to have this tested/updated for Squeak 4.4 and put
into the "app store" (New Squeak Map entry)

--Hannes



On 1/4/13, Bob Arning [hidden email] wrote:

Revisiting some old browser experiments. This couples the ClassDriller
with a multi-codePane browser to see if seeing more is really better.

To use, do something like:
Color bobsDriller
Dictionary bobsDriller
...etc...

and then start drilling.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28914094/BobsBrowser2.4.cs.gz

For Squeak 4.3. Requires underscore assignment.

Cheers,
Bob

Bob,

I'm not a lawyer but without a copyright and a statement of use I understand that it is not legal for other folks to use your software ...

Think of the copyright as your signature or claim that you are the owner and then the rest of the license your statement of what use you are permitting ...

If you want to "give" your software to the community, then the MIT license (or something similar) is the way to go ...

I don't like how much lawyers are involved, but the MIT license _was_ invented to satisfy the lawyers and make it possible to give your software away...

Dale

----- Original Message -----
| From: "Bob Arning" <[hidden email]>
| To: [hidden email]
| Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 1:02:11 PM
| Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Old browser experiments revisited
|
|
| Not really. I have *no* interest in my name appearing in conjunction
| with "Copyright (c)." If someone declines to use my code for that
| reason, so be it. The world is waaaay over-lawyered and I want to
| avoid any action that even looks like contributing. This all seems
| rather beside the point since there is no consideration about
| including this in *the* Squeak image. Should that day ever arrive,
| feel free to assert the copyright in your own name if that helps.
|
| Cheers,
| Bob
|
|
| On 1/4/13 3:43 PM, H. Hirzel wrote:
|
|
| Bob,
|
| do you agree with this?
|
| It is the same license as all Squeak 4.n versions are licensed.
|
|
| It means that
|
| a)
| one can copy and change anything into an external Squeak package but
| has to include
|
| Portions (if not copied everything)
|
| Copyright (c) 1999-2012 Bob Arning
| and the license text
|
|
| b)
| It means that parts of your code may be included in Squeak 4.n
| without
| problems. In that case the author name would only be mentioned in the
| methods signatures.
|
|
| This is a formality but an important one.
|
| --Hannes
|
| On 1/4/13, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote:
|
| On 4 January 2013 19:56, Bob Arning <[hidden email]> wrote:
|
| On 1/4/13 2:37 PM, H. Hirzel wrote:
|
| Bob, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28914094/BobsBrowser2.4.cs.gz files in
| fine into http://ftp.squeak.org/4.4/Squeak4.4-12327.zip (= the
| release of 4.4)
|
| The attached screen shot shows the result after evaluating
|    BobsBrowser browseAllClasses
|
| (see class comment of BobsBrowser )
|
| Everything seems to work fine. Only that #beep was removed and now
|
| BobsBrowser>>
| doRecentMethodsMenu: buttonAndEvent
|
| | menuItems |
|
| menuItems _ self recentMethodsAsItems.
| menuItems isEmpty ifTrue: [^ self beep].
|
| cannot call it (click on the 'RM' button). A very minor thing.
|
| I think I will work with it in the next days to see how it goes.
|
| You will find more bugs in BobsBrowser as you go deeper. The work I
| have
| done in 4.3 was primarily linking the Driller to the multi-paned
| browser
| as
| in "Color bobsDriller"
|
|
| Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
|
| BTW do you (re)license this as MIT, i.e. the same license as Squeak
| 4.n?
|
| Not being a lawyer, I do not pretend to understand licenses. What I
| will
| say
| is:
| 1. I wrote this stuff.
| 2. I place no restrictions on how you use it. That's not far off MIT
| :):
|
| Copyright (c) 2013 Foo
|
| Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining
| a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the
| "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including
| without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish,
| distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to
| permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to
| the following conditions:
|
| The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be
| included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
|
| THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND,
| EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF
| MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND
| NONINFRINGEMENT.
| IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY
| CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT,
| TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE
| SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.
|
| Cheers,
| Bob
|
|
| --Hannes
|
|
| On 1/4/13, Bob Arning <[hidden email]> wrote:
|
| I haven't tried 4.4 yet and suspect there is some work in progress
| there
| that will need adjustments, so I'll postpone that for a while. Mine
| is
| also still exploratory so getting formal with it is a bit premature.
|
| Cheers,
| Bob
|
| On 1/4/13 12:47 PM, H. Hirzel wrote:
|
| Thank you Bob,
|
| it would be nice to have this tested/updated for Squeak 4.4 and put
| into the "app store" (New Squeak Map entry)
|
| --Hannes
|
|
|
| On 1/4/13, Bob Arning <[hidden email]> wrote:
|
| Revisiting some old browser experiments. This couples the
| ClassDriller
| with a multi-codePane browser to see if seeing more is really better.
|
| To use, do something like:
| Color bobsDriller
| Dictionary bobsDriller
| ...etc...
|
| and then start drilling.
| https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28914094/BobsBrowser2.4.cs.gz For Squeak
| 4.3. Requires underscore assignment.
|
| Cheers,
| Bob
|
|
|

Hello

On 1/7/13, Colin Putney <[hidden email]> wrote: When reading what Bob Arning wrote 3 days ago I think that Public
Domain is what he has in mind though he does not call it that way.

Bob says he does not want to see his name attached to it together with
a copyright notice. He allows to make any kind of use of it.

Bob, is 'Public domain' OK for you?

Having the 'license' (= in this case 'Public domain') sorted out will
allow us to reuse the code and port it in many ways.

Thank you Bob for your understanding, I hope,  on the insistence of
what might seem  'unnecessary details' for you.

--Hannes

Ref:
http://opensource.org/licenses/MIT
http://creativecommons.org/about/cc0

I've added a little more detail in

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28914094/browserExplorations.htm

Cheers,
Bob

Revisiting some old browser experiments. This couples the ClassDriller with a multi-codePane browser to see if seeing more is really better.

To use, do something like:
Color bobsDriller
Dictionary bobsDriller
...etc...

and then start drilling.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28914094/BobsBrowser2.4.cs.gz

For Squeak 4.3. Requires underscore assignment.

Cheers,
Bob

This is probably what you're looking for Bob: http://unlicense.org

Now available for both 4.3 and 3.4

Cheers,
Bob

I've added a little more detail in

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28914094/browserExplorations.htm

Cheers,
Bob

On 1/4/13 12:40 PM, Bob Arning wrote:

Revisiting some old browser experiments. This couples the ClassDriller with a multi-codePane browser to see if seeing more is really better.

To use, do something like:
Color bobsDriller
Dictionary bobsDriller
...etc...

and then start drilling.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28914094/BobsBrowser2.4.cs.gz

For Squeak 4.3. Requires underscore assignment.

Cheers,
Bob