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philippeback

Open Helios in a new tab

I have been experimenting with having a better layout for working.

I do not like having the IDE at the bottom of the screen (got eye problems and working looking down isn't doing it).

So, I tried the popupAmber but I don't like it either since it is a popup floating around.

That made me try getting Helios open in a new tab.

I added this to my index.html

<a id="linkhelios" href="/vendor/amber/helios.html" target="_blank">Open Helios in New Tab</a>

That works fine and allows me to have a full page to edit on the left and the IDE on the right, or any other way I want.

Maybe could one update the amber.js to allow this with amber.openInTab().

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Geert Claes

Re: Open Helios in a new tab

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Hmm, how about always using browser tabs instead of tabs within (browser, workspace, transcript, sUnit) the Amber IDE?

philippeback

Re: Open Helios in a new tab

I wouldn't go that route or we'll have a ton of open tabs.

One can already open a ton of tabs with a ton of Amber Helioses if one wants to.

Phil

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Geert Claes <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hmm, how about always using browser tabs instead of tabs within (browser,
workspace, transcript, sUnit) the Amber IDE?

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Geert Claes

Re: Open Helios in a new tab

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I'l use the <troll inside> tag following Nico's example :)

<troll inside>
I reckon its time the 30-odd year "standard smalltalk" browser needs to be more intuitive, re-designed
</troll inside>

philippeback

Re: Open Helios in a new tab

<troll_inside mode="feeding">

Attach/detach tabs, and one view of all methods at once with source code.

And one tab with the JavaScript developer tools and a panel showing the compiled JavaScript (aka "The ByteCode view")

</troll_inside>

Jokes aside, I've been surprised by the behavior of my Amber application when the JavaScript console was open as the debugger messages (the red things) do trigger JavaScript exceptions as well and then lead to the JavaScript debugger showing things.

Is there a way to trigger that behavior on/off? Is the amber.debug variable usable for such a thing?

The javascript debugger shows things like function($ctx24) which aren't terribly useful...

Phil

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Geert Claes <[hidden email]> wrote:

I'l use the <troll inside> tag following Nico's example :)

<troll inside>
I reckon its time the 30-odd year "standard smalltalk" browser needs to be
more intuitive, re-designed
</troll inside>

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Nicolas Petton

Re: Open Helios in a new tab

It's been disabled since a few days.

Nico

On May 22, 2013, at 12:38 PM, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

<troll_inside mode="feeding">
Attach/detach tabs, and one view of all methods at once with source code.
And one tab with the JavaScript developer tools and a panel showing the compiled JavaScript (aka "The ByteCode view")

</troll_inside>

Jokes aside, I've been surprised by the behavior of my Amber application when the JavaScript console was open as the debugger messages (the red things) do trigger JavaScript exceptions as well and then lead to the JavaScript debugger showing things.

Is there a way to trigger that behavior on/off? Is the amber.debug variable usable for such a thing?

The javascript debugger shows things like function($ctx24) which aren't terribly useful...

Phil

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Geert Claes <[hidden email]> wrote:

I'l use the <troll inside> tag following Nico's example :)

<troll inside>
I reckon its time the 30-odd year "standard smalltalk" browser needs to be
more intuitive, re-designed
</troll inside>

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Nicolas Petton

Re: Open Helios in a new tab

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Yep, agreed. Now I want first to finish Helios, especially the debugger that can now become very good, and then improve :)

Nico

On May 22, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Geert Claes <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'l use the <troll inside> tag following Nico's example :)
>
> <troll inside>
> I reckon its time the 30-odd year "standard smalltalk" browser needs to be
> more intuitive, re-designed
> </troll inside>
>
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philippeback

Re: Open Helios in a new tab

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Well, I do have the latest updates and it still does it.

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Nicolas Petton <[hidden email]> wrote:

It's been disabled since a few days.

Nico

On May 22, 2013, at 12:38 PM, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

<troll_inside mode="feeding">
Attach/detach tabs, and one view of all methods at once with source code.
And one tab with the JavaScript developer tools and a panel showing the compiled JavaScript (aka "The ByteCode view")

</troll_inside>

Jokes aside, I've been surprised by the behavior of my Amber application when the JavaScript console was open as the debugger messages (the red things) do trigger JavaScript exceptions as well and then lead to the JavaScript debugger showing things.

Is there a way to trigger that behavior on/off? Is the amber.debug variable usable for such a thing?

The javascript debugger shows things like function($ctx24) which aren't terribly useful...

Phil

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Geert Claes <[hidden email]> wrote:

I'l use the <troll inside> tag following Nico's example :)

<troll inside>
I reckon its time the 30-odd year "standard smalltalk" browser needs to be
more intuitive, re-designed
</troll inside>

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Nicolas Petton

Re: Open Helios in a new tab

Can you force a refresh? boot.js should look like this: https://github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber/blob/master/js/boot.js#L579

Nico

On May 22, 2013, at 1:11 PM, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Well, I do have the latest updates and it still does it.

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Nicolas Petton <[hidden email]> wrote:

It's been disabled since a few days.

Nico

On May 22, 2013, at 12:38 PM, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

<troll_inside mode="feeding">
Attach/detach tabs, and one view of all methods at once with source code.
And one tab with the JavaScript developer tools and a panel showing the compiled JavaScript (aka "The ByteCode view")

</troll_inside>

Jokes aside, I've been surprised by the behavior of my Amber application when the JavaScript console was open as the debugger messages (the red things) do trigger JavaScript exceptions as well and then lead to the JavaScript debugger showing things.

Is there a way to trigger that behavior on/off? Is the amber.debug variable usable for such a thing?

The javascript debugger shows things like function($ctx24) which aren't terribly useful...

Phil

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Geert Claes <[hidden email]> wrote:

I'l use the <troll inside> tag following Nico's example :)

<troll inside>
I reckon its time the 30-odd year "standard smalltalk" browser needs to be
more intuitive, re-designed
</troll inside>

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philippeback

Re: Open Helios in a new tab

Ok, that was the issue.

I added this in my own repo:

https://github.com/philippeback/amber-examples/blob/master/updatesubmodules.sh

to keep things fresh :-)

Phil

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Nicolas Petton <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can you force a refresh? boot.js should look like this: https://github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber/blob/master/js/boot.js#L579

Nico

On May 22, 2013, at 1:11 PM, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Well, I do have the latest updates and it still does it.

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Nicolas Petton <[hidden email]> wrote:

It's been disabled since a few days.

Nico

On May 22, 2013, at 12:38 PM, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

<troll_inside mode="feeding">
Attach/detach tabs, and one view of all methods at once with source code.
And one tab with the JavaScript developer tools and a panel showing the compiled JavaScript (aka "The ByteCode view")

</troll_inside>

Jokes aside, I've been surprised by the behavior of my Amber application when the JavaScript console was open as the debugger messages (the red things) do trigger JavaScript exceptions as well and then lead to the JavaScript debugger showing things.

Is there a way to trigger that behavior on/off? Is the amber.debug variable usable for such a thing?

The javascript debugger shows things like function($ctx24) which aren't terribly useful...

Phil

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Geert Claes <[hidden email]> wrote:

I'l use the <troll inside> tag following Nico's example :)

<troll inside>
I reckon its time the 30-odd year "standard smalltalk" browser needs to be
more intuitive, re-designed
</troll inside>

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