Pharo and the rest of the ecosystem

> Hi guys
>
> May I ask you why you talk about CUIS and Spoon/Pharo?
> If you want to work with these systems we do not have any problems.
>
> We are working on Pharo since 2008. We deliver regularly, we are concerned
> with
> making sure that you can do business with Pharo. And we will continue.
> WE want to invent and build OUR future.
>
> We are spending a lot of time on making the system better.

> to name a few. We are pushing like hell and getting there.
>
> We spent time building our vision and step by step building it. We are
> getting there.  :)
> Now I do not see the points related to spoon and cuis. I do not understand
> what is the point.
> If people wants to collaborate with us this is ok now we do not count on
> that for our future.
>
> You do not have to reply. Just think about what you want to build and your
> future. Everybody
> make choices and is free.
>
> Stef
>
>
>
>

>
> On May 1, 2012, at 8:44 AM, H. Hirzel wrote:
>>
>> Athens is an SVG canvas using Morphic, right?
>>
> No, Athens is a new Canvas. Vector graphics.
> Morphic is another layer. (Morphic *uses* a Canvas, and of
> course you can just have a canvas in a morphic window for
> drawing).
>
> https://vimeo.com/40653315
>
>> Where is the code?
>>
> http://www.squeaksource.com/Athens.html

>>> - Ghost
>>
>> What is Ghost?
>
> A proxy implementation. Where you can proxy even strange objects (classes,
> methods...)
> yet it does not require a VM change.
>
> http://hal.inria.fr/index.php?halsid=kgvbe2lj6clils0070slhn2t62&view_this_doc=inria-00614720&version=1
>
>>> - Ring
>>
>> What is Ring?
>>
> Ring is a meta model for smalltalk code that is used already in 1.4
>
> http://hal.inria.fr/index.php?halsid=kgvbe2lj6clils0070slhn2t62&view_this_doc=inria-00629677&version=1
>
> Marcus
>
> --
> Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de
>
>
>

> On 5/1/12, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> On May 1, 2012, at 8:44 AM, H. Hirzel wrote:
>>>
>>> Athens is an SVG canvas using Morphic, right?
>>>
>> No, Athens is a new Canvas. Vector graphics.
>> Morphic is another layer. (Morphic *uses* a Canvas, and of
>> course you can just have a canvas in a morphic window for
>> drawing).
>>
>> https://vimeo.com/40653315
>>
>>> Where is the code?
>>>
>> http://www.squeaksource.com/Athens.html
>
> Thank you Marcus,
>
> Where can I read more besides this
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Athens
>

>
> On May 2, 2012, at 2:33 PM, H. Hirzel wrote:
>
>> On 5/1/12, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On May 1, 2012, at 8:44 AM, H. Hirzel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Athens is an SVG canvas using Morphic, right?
>>>>
>>> No, Athens is a new Canvas. Vector graphics.
>>> Morphic is another layer. (Morphic *uses* a Canvas, and of
>>> course you can just have a canvas in a morphic window for
>>> drawing).
>>>
>>> https://vimeo.com/40653315
>>>
>>>> Where is the code?
>>>>
>>> http://www.squeaksource.com/Athens.html
>>
>> Thank you Marcus,
>>
>> Where can I read more besides this
>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Athens
>>
> Nothing yet. You can bug Igor... :-) There will be more
> documentation, but keep in mind that this is work in progress
> and therefore focus is to finish, not to document.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
> --
> Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de
>
>
>