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!! Please Upload Your Etoys Projects !!

Timothy Falconer-3
Hi everyone,

With the launch of the beta Squeakland Showcase, we'd love for any and  
all to upload their favorite Etoys projects!

Think of it as a Squeakland housewarming party, which for those that  
don't know the term, it's when friends come to your new house with  
gifts to make the house nicer for everyone.

There's two ways you can upload projects:

1) If you're using the Etoys 4 release candidate, you can upload  
directly from Etoys.

2) If you're already got some PR files, the go to the showcase upload  
page:

http://squeakland.org/showcase/upload

Either way, you'll need to create a free account first.


A few warnings though:

A) any projects or project information with inappropriate content for  
children will be immediately deleted

B) the showcase does not currently support non-latin alphabets  
(8859-1), such as Japanese, Russian, etc.  We will fix this as soon as  
we can.  You can still upload projects in these other languages, you  
just cannot use your alphabets in the project title, description,  
author, or tags.

C) children under 13 must have their parent or guardian create their  
account for them



We hope to have a great selection of projects before we go live with  
the Etoys 4 final on October 21st.  Please spread the word to everyone  
you know.

Please help us spruce up the showcase!

Take care,
Tim
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Re: !! Please Upload Your Etoys Projects !!

Nevit Dilmen
Yesterday I uploaded the following project http://tinyurl.com/ye98www to squeakland showcase and today I noticed it has been deleted. My guess is  the moderation board (?) person has deleted it according to warning A below.

But I belive:

A: Too strict moderation will not help growing the site...
B: A note to those whose projects are deleted would be nice...
C: Rules should be clear enough...

Nevit Dilmen


--- 20/09/09 Pzr tarihinde Timothy Falconer <[hidden email]> şöyle yazıyor:

> Kimden: Timothy Falconer <[hidden email]>
> Konu: [squeakland] !! Please Upload Your Etoys Projects !!
> Kime: "squeakland.org mailing list" <[hidden email]>, "etoys dev" <[hidden email]>, "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" <[hidden email]>
> Tarihi: 20 Eylül 2009 Pazar, 20:00
> Hi everyone,
>
> With the launch of the beta Squeakland Showcase, we'd love
> for any and all to upload their favorite Etoys projects!
>
> Think of it as a Squeakland housewarming party, which for
> those that don't know the term, it's when friends come to
> your new house with gifts to make the house nicer for
> everyone.
>
> There's two ways you can upload projects:
>
> 1) If you're using the Etoys 4 release candidate, you can
> upload directly from Etoys.
>
> 2) If you're already got some PR files, the go to the
> showcase upload page:
>
> http://squeakland.org/showcase/upload
>
> Either way, you'll need to create a free account first.
>
>
> A few warnings though:
>
> A) any projects or project information with inappropriate
> content for children will be immediately deleted
>
> B) the showcase does not currently support non-latin
> alphabets (8859-1), such as Japanese, Russian, etc.  We
> will fix this as soon as we can.  You can still upload
> projects in these other languages, you just cannot use your
> alphabets in the project title, description, author, or
> tags.
>
> C) children under 13 must have their parent or guardian
> create their account for them
>
>
>
> We hope to have a great selection of projects before we go
> live with the Etoys 4 final on October 21st.  Please
> spread the word to everyone you know.
>
> Please help us spruce up the showcase!
>
> Take care,
> Tim
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Re: !! Please Upload Your Etoys Projects !!

Yoshiki Ohshima-2
At Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:58:55 -0700 (PDT),
Nevit Dilmen wrote:
>
> Yesterday I uploaded the following project http://tinyurl.com/ye98www to squeakland showcase and today I noticed it has been deleted. My guess is  the moderation board (?) person has deleted it according to warning A below.
>
> But I belive:
>
> A: Too strict moderation will not help growing the site...
> B: A note to those whose projects are deleted would be nice...
> C: Rules should be clear enough...

  I saw quorem sensing project on the squeakland.org but it is only
visible when I logged in.  I realized that one of my "an Etoy per day"
projects is not there either.  I don't think there was an intentional
moderation happened to it (them) but just the system is not stable
yet.

  The rule I heard yesterday indeed tends to hide innocent projects
from the site.  The rule appears to be still in flux (as it is Beta),
so there is a good chance that it'll be fixed.

  I agree your three points.

-- Yoshiki
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Re: !! Please Upload Your Etoys Projects !!

Timothy Falconer-3
FYI,

You can see all projects if you're logged in as admin (as Yoshiki  
would be).

You can see *your* projects if you're logged in as you.

You cannot see a project that hasn't yet been approved by the rankers,  
if you're not logged in.

It's also possible that I did something that day, as I was fixing  
bugs.   Try again and see if there's still a problem.

Tim

On Sep 25, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:

> At Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:58:55 -0700 (PDT),
> Nevit Dilmen wrote:
>>
>> Yesterday I uploaded the following project http://tinyurl.com/ 
>> ye98www to squeakland showcase and today I noticed it has been  
>> deleted. My guess is  the moderation board (?) person has deleted  
>> it according to warning A below.
>>
>> But I belive:
>>
>> A: Too strict moderation will not help growing the site...
>> B: A note to those whose projects are deleted would be nice...
>> C: Rules should be clear enough...
>
>  I saw quorem sensing project on the squeakland.org but it is only
> visible when I logged in.  I realized that one of my "an Etoy per day"
> projects is not there either.  I don't think there was an intentional
> moderation happened to it (them) but just the system is not stable
> yet.
>
>  The rule I heard yesterday indeed tends to hide innocent projects
> from the site.  The rule appears to be still in flux (as it is Beta),
> so there is a good chance that it'll be fixed.
>
>  I agree your three points.
>
> -- Yoshiki
> _______________________________________________
> squeakland mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland

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Re: !! Please Upload Your Etoys Projects !!

Timothy Falconer-3
Oh, and I should also say ... if a project isn't visible to outsiders,  
its title is red.

Tim

On Sep 28, 2009, at 1:30 PM, Timothy Falconer wrote:

> FYI,
>
> You can see all projects if you're logged in as admin (as Yoshiki  
> would be).
>
> You can see *your* projects if you're logged in as you.
>
> You cannot see a project that hasn't yet been approved by the  
> rankers, if you're not logged in.
>
> It's also possible that I did something that day, as I was fixing  
> bugs.   Try again and see if there's still a problem.
>
> Tim
>
> On Sep 25, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
>
>> At Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:58:55 -0700 (PDT),
>> Nevit Dilmen wrote:
>>>
>>> Yesterday I uploaded the following project http://tinyurl.com/ye98www 
>>>  to squeakland showcase and today I noticed it has been deleted.  
>>> My guess is  the moderation board (?) person has deleted it  
>>> according to warning A below.
>>>
>>> But I belive:
>>>
>>> A: Too strict moderation will not help growing the site...
>>> B: A note to those whose projects are deleted would be nice...
>>> C: Rules should be clear enough...
>>
>> I saw quorem sensing project on the squeakland.org but it is only
>> visible when I logged in.  I realized that one of my "an Etoy per  
>> day"
>> projects is not there either.  I don't think there was an intentional
>> moderation happened to it (them) but just the system is not stable
>> yet.
>>
>> The rule I heard yesterday indeed tends to hide innocent projects
>> from the site.  The rule appears to be still in flux (as it is Beta),
>> so there is a good chance that it'll be fixed.
>>
>> I agree your three points.
>>
>> -- Yoshiki
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>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland
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Re: !! Please Upload Your Etoys Projects !!

Yoshiki Ohshima-2
At Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:33:51 -0400,
Timothy Falconer wrote:
>
> Oh, and I should also say ... if a project isn't visible to outsiders,  
> its title is red.

  Oh, that was what it meant...  However, my rabbits and grass project
has blue title but it does not seem to appear when I'm not logged in.

  BTW, it is probably a transient problem, but I cannot upload new
projects now.  (500 Internal Server Error)

-- Yoshiki
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Re: !! Please Upload Your Etoys Projects !!

Yoshiki Ohshima-2
At Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:45:03 -0700,
Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:

>
> At Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:33:51 -0400,
> Timothy Falconer wrote:
> >
> > Oh, and I should also say ... if a project isn't visible to outsiders,  
> > its title is red.
>
>   Oh, that was what it meant...  However, my rabbits and grass project
> has blue title but it does not seem to appear when I'm not logged in.
>
>   BTW, it is probably a transient problem, but I cannot upload new
> projects now.  (500 Internal Server Error)

  Now it seems that I can upload projects (thanks).  But Nevit's
quorem sensing (and my rabbits and grass) are not shown on the website
and I wonder if the ballots for them actually didn't go out or such...

-- Yoshiki
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Re: !! Please Upload Your Etoys Projects !!

Timothy Falconer-3
On Sep 28, 2009, at 11:32 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:

> At Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:45:03 -0700,
> Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
>>
>> At Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:33:51 -0400,
>> Timothy Falconer wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh, and I should also say ... if a project isn't visible to  
>>> outsiders,
>>> its title is red.
>>
>>  Oh, that was what it meant...  However, my rabbits and grass project
>> has blue title but it does not seem to appear when I'm not logged in.
>>
>>  BTW, it is probably a transient problem, but I cannot upload new
>> projects now.  (500 Internal Server Error)
>
>  Now it seems that I can upload projects (thanks).  But Nevit's
> quorem sensing (and my rabbits and grass) are not shown on the website
> and I wonder if the ballots for them actually didn't go out or such...

rabbits and grass ... 8 ballots went out, no one has clicked through.

quorum sensing ... 10 ballots went out, no one has clicked.

I haven't wired it up yet, but my plan was to have the system take  
ballots away after 5 days and resend them to new people.

I'll do this manually for these two projects, since several on the  
list are old accounts with people who are likely not listening :)


Tim
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