Like ever, I need help for test of the new resource we are adding to Cobalt:
"multiplayer and chat inside a WiFi network". You need to have 2 machines below the same WiFi network (like there are at some schools, some Campus, Starbucks etc.) The steps for the test are: 1 - The two machines for the test need to have the official Cobalt installed. 2 - Download and unzip inside the main folder of each Cobalt at each machine (C:\cobalt-base-current-build) at each machine: http://www.dmu.com/cobalt/CoWifi.zip Like are 28 Mb, "Cobal WiFi" is only for people having broadband (sorry). 3 - The first machine (we wiil call it: A) will be the "owner" of the "island": DESERT. Open Cobalt using the image: Desert.image. Drag the ball like ever and the DESERT appears: http://www.dmu.com/cobalt/cowifi1.jpg 4 - The second machine (we will call it B) will be the "visitor". Open Cobalt using the image: CoWiFi. image. This will be the "browser" to access the DESERT. Drag the ball like ever and will appear the "basic island". 5 - Change the avatar to the Rabbit using: Tools | Modify avatar. Change the nickname for chat to:"Mr. Rabbit", using: People | Text chat. 6 - Select at the menu of this machine: Place | Connect to CoWiFi World. http://www.dmu.com/cobalt/cowifi2.jpg 7 - At the list of islands available, at this WiFi network, select: "Desert-CoWiFi". Will appear a Portal. http://www.dmu.com/cobalt/cowifi3.jpg 8 - Go to the Desert island: http://www.dmu.com/cobalt/cowifi4.jpg 9 - At the machine A (the owner of the island) , open the Chat Window using: People | Text chat. http://www.dmu.com/cobalt/cowifi6.jpg 9 - At the machine B, open also the Chat Window using: People | Text chat. http://www.dmu.com/cobalt/cowifi7.jpg Now you can play. Enjoy. Have fun. The chat has some little bugs but, in general, all is working for me. But I need to know if it's working for everybody. Let me know, please. Thanks. |
I never needed broadband to have my rabbit hop between
computers, just wifi. Broadband to download 27 meg images, yes, especially in impending flooding rainstorms. We got wind and rain and I had to put on mountain gear raincoat to cover my wifi laptop access as went to library where there is wifi internet. The coffee room lost its high speed wifi by degrees and I went downstairs fearing my laptop would drown even with the mountain gear raincoat if I didn't get out. I just saw snaps on the hard to see plastic thing that fits in a fanny bag. Now, not worrying about another flooding rain while wind wips open raincoat. Now, I got it, looked at files saw two images, fits directions. Getting home where guaranteed dry. |
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I had to be sure to have the avatars move before I set up the portals or they would freeze then "it worked for me". The initial avatar was named Alice but was the rabbit, so I chose avatar to be Alice and had her jump through my wifi on my dual processor G5 into my aluminum laptop desert. I saw her on the laptop moving around from the rabbits point of view there. I didn't test audio chat which I believe is buggy and can cause crashes on a mac even iChat had issues when visiting served world across internet in previous croquet version. Americo, you did well for me! Thanks. |
WOW! IT'S WORKING!!! IT'S WORKING!!! We are not alone in the desert anymore!
It's a great day for the Cobalt project. Thanks Paul. I hope that all was OK about that thing of the tango (I didn't understand very well but tango is tango!). Paul did the test using 2 Macs. I dit it using Windows. I would like to know if it works using Linux. By the way: I received an email from Julian Lombardi inviting me to write the "Unofficial Manual" at the official Croquet wiki. So, it will be not so unofficial anymore... :-) At 2007, I was working helping Negroponte and the guys from the MIT in the OLPC project (the US$ 100 laptop) that would be implemented in Brazil (I hope it will be...). I tried to convince them that the Croquet architecture (TeaTime) would be better thxn that implemented in the Sugar (the operational system of the laptop). But I didn't win this discussion. Now I will try to convince the guys from the Duke University (Julian etc.) and their partners, that a good strategy for Croquet-Cobalt is the main focus in WiFi networks. All the schools, in the near future, will have a WiFi network and the boys cheap laptops. And Croquet-Cobalt can be the better solution for creation of shared application to be used by the students. OK. This is an idea we need to discuss more aboout . By now, like Cobalt WiFi (CoWiFi) appears to be working OK, we can begin to write the basic tutorials, for everybody to learn how to create "island" having "shared" applications inside. I am doing some final tests about creation of horizontal collision detection etc. Thanks. |
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It's not necessary to have 2 machines and a WiFi hotspot for test of the Cobalt
WiFi Multiplayer (CoWiFi and Desert islands). Having the 2 images downloaded, you can open a first copy of Cobalt using with the Desert Island and another copy of Cobalt using the CoWiFi island. Follow the steps we have explained at the previous post here at the list and you can play going to an island to the other and "talk to yourself". (OOPS! Talk to himself can be the beginning of insanity!! Be careful!!) |
If you have erased the post having the steps for the test, here is a copy,
modified for this standalone test: 1 - Download and unzip inside the main folder of Cobalt (C:\cobalt-base-current-build): http://www.dmu.com/cobalt/CoWifi.zip Like are 28 Mb, "CoWiFi" is only for people having broadband (sorry). 2 - Open a first copy of Cobalt using the image: Desert.image. Drag the ball like ever and the DESERT appears. This will be the "first machine" (we will call it: A) and will be the "owner" of the "island": DESERT. http://www.dmu.com/cobalt/cowifi1.jpg 3 - The "second machine" (we will call it B) will be the "visitor". Open Cobalt using the image: CoWiFi.image. This will be the "browser" to access the DESERT. Drag the ball like ever and will appear the "basic island". 4 - Change for the "second machine", the avatar to the Rabbit using: Tools | Modify avatar. Change the nickname for chat to:"Mr. Rabbit", using: People | Text chat. 5 - Select at the menu of "this machine": Place | Connect to CoWiFi World. http://www.dmu.com/cobalt/cowifi2.jpg 6 - At the list of islands available, select: "Desert-CoWiFi". Will appear a Portal. http://www.dmu.com/cobalt/cowifi3.jpg 7 - Go to the Desert island: http://www.dmu.com/cobalt/cowifi4.jpg 8 - At the "machine" A (the owner of the island) , open the Chat Window using: People | Text chat. http://www.dmu.com/cobalt/cowifi6.jpg 9 - At the "machine" B, open also the Chat Window using: People | Text chat. http://www.dmu.com/cobalt/cowifi7.jpg Now you can play. Enjoy. Have fun. The chat has some little bugs (you need to alternate the type of message sended) but, in general, all is working. |
Until now we didn't have any feedback about our COWiFi test by guys using
Linux. Please, if you have Linux, even don't having 2 machines and a WiFi HotSpot available let us know if the standalone test is working for you. Thanks. |
If you have an old LAN (Local Area Network) using cables to connect the
machines (I believe that exists some of them yet surviving in world), I believe that CoWiFi will work too. |
You can test that: if the user A does something at his machine, this thing will
be synchronized at the island of the user B (and vice-versa). By example: A can create a new object using 3DPainter. B can drag this object etc. |
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On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 09:22 -0400, Americo Fraga Damasceno Junior wrote:
> If you have an old LAN (Local Area Network) using cables to connect the > machines (I believe that exists some of them yet surviving in world), I > believe that CoWiFi will work too. Hi, Americo and other developers... I have just downloaded the Cobalt zip. I unzipped it and it doesn't work yet. Here are the first few issues I have found for Linux users: 1. Croquet and Cobalt need hardware acceleration. Using native drivers is most likely the way to achieve this. If the open driver supports hardware acceleration you MAY be able to use it. 2. The libraries libOpenAL and libGL both need to be installed and the links setup by admin, or the links need user access for read/write. 3. The Cobalt zip file doesn't include the Croquet image, and the croquet shell script included references a fixed version (1.0.18), which is behind the release curve. 4. The drag and drop form of open for the image file will not work on Linux by default. 5. There are settings for the firewall and ports that need to be identified. (my Fedora 7 works, my Fedora 8 doesn't.) I have to work out the port allocation issues yet. 6. More to come as I progress. Regards, Les H |
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