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Problem With Windows Version Getting Started

Dan Shafer-3
I've installed Croquet (the current download) on my OS X machine and  
my XP system, both on the same LAN. Not sure I'll actually be able to  
share worlds since this is a LAN off a wireless hub that uses NAT to  
assign addresses, but I can't even get that far. On a totally new  
install of Croquet on XP, dragging any world out of the main window  
area into the canvas in an attempt to connect to the Master running  
on OS X, I immediately get an error that says, "WhiteRabbit.mdl is  
not defined." From that point, I'm hosed and have to quite and  
restart Croquet.

What could I possibly be doing wrong?

Dan

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Re: Problem With Windows Version Getting Started

Andreas.Raab
Hi Dan -

 > What could I possibly be doing wrong?

First thing is that you're either running a Croquet that is unlike the
one we've released or that you're reporting the error message
incorrectly. I suspect that it said "WhiteRabbit.mdl does not exist"
instead which would indicate that it doesn't find a file. If that is
indeed the error message you are seeing (if not, please report the
actual one) check whether the file WhiteRabbit.mdl is actually present
in the Content\Avatars directory. If not, your installation went wrong.

If the file is there, please make sure you start your Croquet via the
Croquet.bat file in the installation directory - there is a chance that
with an "unusual install" (for example, if you have other Squeak
installations) it may not pick up the correct default directory. In this
case you also might have gotten a message earlier complaining that it
wouldn't find the .changes or .sources file (this may or may not occur).

Cheers,
   - Andreas

Dan Shafer wrote:

> I've installed Croquet (the current download) on my OS X machine and my
> XP system, both on the same LAN. Not sure I'll actually be able to share
> worlds since this is a LAN off a wireless hub that uses NAT to assign
> addresses, but I can't even get that far. On a totally new install of
> Croquet on XP, dragging any world out of the main window area into the
> canvas in an attempt to connect to the Master running on OS X, I
> immediately get an error that says, "WhiteRabbit.mdl is not defined."
>  From that point, I'm hosed and have to quite and restart Croquet.
>
> What could I possibly be doing wrong?
>
> Dan
>
>

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Re: Problem With Windows Version Getting Started

Dan Shafer-3
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Andreas....

Thanks for the quick answer.

Well, the first thing I discovered was that I wasn't launching with  
the .bat file but rather by double-clicking the .exe file. Seems  
strange that I can't just double-click the executable, but OK, I'll  
use the batch file. First thing the batch file does is report it  
can't find "/bin/Croquet.exe." I look around and discover that the  
installation process doesn't have a bin directory and that  
Croquet.exe is at the same directory level as the batch file, so I  
remove the "/bin" from the batch file, save it and run it again.

Now the exe runs and the image opens but I get the same error as  
before: "WhiteRabbit.mdl does not exist." I look in the directory  
and, sure enough, there's WhiteRabbit.mdl right there at the same  
level of the directory as the batch and .exe and image.

When I installed this on XP, all I did was download the file from the  
Web site (a ZIP), double-click it, and have it unzipped into the  
directory C:\Program Files\croquet. Nothing else.

I am not a regular user of Windows, though I do know my way around  
the system a little. I'm not sure what I could do differently in the  
install that would result in this working as expected. (On OS X, it  
"just works.")

Dan

On Jul 18, 2006, at 9:35 PM, Andreas Raab wrote:

> Hi Dan -
>
> > What could I possibly be doing wrong?
>
> First thing is that you're either running a Croquet that is unlike  
> the one we've released or that you're reporting the error message  
> incorrectly. I suspect that it said "WhiteRabbit.mdl does not  
> exist" instead which would indicate that it doesn't find a file. If  
> that is indeed the error message you are seeing (if not, please  
> report the actual one) check whether the file WhiteRabbit.mdl is  
> actually present in the Content\Avatars directory. If not, your  
> installation went wrong.
>
> If the file is there, please make sure you start your Croquet via  
> the Croquet.bat file in the installation directory - there is a  
> chance that with an "unusual install" (for example, if you have  
> other Squeak installations) it may not pick up the correct default  
> directory. In this case you also might have gotten a message  
> earlier complaining that it wouldn't find the .changes or .sources  
> file (this may or may not occur).
>
> Cheers,
>   - Andreas
>
> Dan Shafer wrote:
>> I've installed Croquet (the current download) on my OS X machine  
>> and my XP system, both on the same LAN. Not sure I'll actually be  
>> able to share worlds since this is a LAN off a wireless hub that  
>> uses NAT to assign addresses, but I can't even get that far. On a  
>> totally new install of Croquet on XP, dragging any world out of  
>> the main window area into the canvas in an attempt to connect to  
>> the Master running on OS X, I immediately get an error that says,  
>> "WhiteRabbit.mdl is not defined."  From that point, I'm hosed and  
>> have to quite and restart Croquet.
>> What could I possibly be doing wrong?
>> Dan
>


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Re: Problem With Windows Version Getting Started

Andreas.Raab
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 From what you say it's pretty clear that whatever you used to extract
the zip file it didn't preserve the directory structure. Simply delete
the installation and make sure that you extract the zip file such that
the directory structure is preserved. Verify this by finding Croquet.exe
in the bin directory and WhiteRabbit.mdl in Content/Avatars. (you can
check this with the Mac installation if you're unsure whether it's
correct or not - the result after installing the SDK should be identical).

Cheers,
   - Andreas

Dan Shafer wrote:

> Andreas....
>
> Thanks for the quick answer.
>
> Well, the first thing I discovered was that I wasn't launching with the
> .bat file but rather by double-clicking the .exe file. Seems strange
> that I can't just double-click the executable, but OK, I'll use the
> batch file. First thing the batch file does is report it can't find
> "/bin/Croquet.exe." I look around and discover that the installation
> process doesn't have a bin directory and that Croquet.exe is at the same
> directory level as the batch file, so I remove the "/bin" from the batch
> file, save it and run it again.
>
> Now the exe runs and the image opens but I get the same error as before:
> "WhiteRabbit.mdl does not exist." I look in the directory and, sure
> enough, there's WhiteRabbit.mdl right there at the same level of the
> directory as the batch and .exe and image.
>
> When I installed this on XP, all I did was download the file from the
> Web site (a ZIP), double-click it, and have it unzipped into the
> directory C:\Program Files\croquet. Nothing else.
>
> I am not a regular user of Windows, though I do know my way around the
> system a little. I'm not sure what I could do differently in the install
> that would result in this working as expected. (On OS X, it "just works.")
>
> Dan
>
> On Jul 18, 2006, at 9:35 PM, Andreas Raab wrote:
>
>> Hi Dan -
>>
>> > What could I possibly be doing wrong?
>>
>> First thing is that you're either running a Croquet that is unlike the
>> one we've released or that you're reporting the error message
>> incorrectly. I suspect that it said "WhiteRabbit.mdl does not exist"
>> instead which would indicate that it doesn't find a file. If that is
>> indeed the error message you are seeing (if not, please report the
>> actual one) check whether the file WhiteRabbit.mdl is actually present
>> in the Content\Avatars directory. If not, your installation went wrong.
>>
>> If the file is there, please make sure you start your Croquet via the
>> Croquet.bat file in the installation directory - there is a chance
>> that with an "unusual install" (for example, if you have other Squeak
>> installations) it may not pick up the correct default directory. In
>> this case you also might have gotten a message earlier complaining
>> that it wouldn't find the .changes or .sources file (this may or may
>> not occur).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>   - Andreas
>>
>> Dan Shafer wrote:
>>> I've installed Croquet (the current download) on my OS X machine and
>>> my XP system, both on the same LAN. Not sure I'll actually be able to
>>> share worlds since this is a LAN off a wireless hub that uses NAT to
>>> assign addresses, but I can't even get that far. On a totally new
>>> install of Croquet on XP, dragging any world out of the main window
>>> area into the canvas in an attempt to connect to the Master running
>>> on OS X, I immediately get an error that says, "WhiteRabbit.mdl is
>>> not defined."  From that point, I'm hosed and have to quite and
>>> restart Croquet.
>>> What could I possibly be doing wrong?
>>> Dan
>>
>
>
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