Problem with simple Dice/DiceView program

> Hi,
>
> I would not use forms but ImageMorphs and I would add them in the  
> DiceView as morphs. (no dic needed)
> Then in the update: you just could hide the last die and show the  
> current.
>
> But why fiddling around with unnecessary complexity, if you can  
> have the same app with two lines of Etoys?
>
> Ok, I guess you wanted to learn about this form of mvc.
> But I think that if in doubt whether to learn a most venerable  
> technology like MVC which needs a lot of code (where I would claim  
> 3 c.s. people give you 3 views on what MVC really means) or a newer  
> one, which is smaller and does the same, I would go for Occam's  
> Razor...
>
> If you give me a reasonable example where you need two views on the  
> same model, then we can discuss how far we can get with Etoys or  
> Tweak (could use some help here too), which both more rely on the  
> naked objects approach: http://www.nakedobjects.org
>
> <ThrowDie.png>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Markus
>
> On Jul 25, 2006, at 2:09 PM, Manas Dadarkar wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>         I am facing a strange problem with a simple Dice/DiceView  
>> code. I have a simple dice and a diceview that should show the new  
>> image of the dice depending on what the new value of the dice is.  
>> For some reason, the image of the dice does not get refreshed in  
>> the system window. Can someone help me here?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Manas
>>
>>
>> <CS598rej-Dice.st>
>> <dice2.JPG>
>> <dice3.JPG>
>> <dice4.JPG>
>> <dice5.JPG>
>> <dice6.JPG>
>> <Dice.jpg>
>> <dice1.JPG>
>>
>
>

> Stef
>
> On 26 juil. 06, at 01:49, Markus Gaelli wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would not use forms but ImageMorphs and I would add them in the  
>> DiceView as morphs. (no dic needed)
>> Then in the update: you just could hide the last die and show the  
>> current.
>>
>> But why fiddling around with unnecessary complexity, if you can  
>> have the same app with two lines of Etoys?
>>
>> Ok, I guess you wanted to learn about this form of mvc.
>> But I think that if in doubt whether to learn a most venerable  
>> technology like MVC which needs a lot of code (where I would claim  
>> 3 c.s. people give you 3 views on what MVC really means) or a  
>> newer one, which is smaller and does the same, I would go for  
>> Occam's Razor...
>>
>> If you give me a reasonable example where you need two views on  
>> the same model, then we can discuss how far we can get with Etoys  
>> or Tweak (could use some help here too), which both more rely on  
>> the naked objects approach: http://www.nakedobjects.org
>>
>> <ThrowDie.png>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Markus
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2006, at 2:09 PM, Manas Dadarkar wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>         I am facing a strange problem with a simple Dice/DiceView  
>>> code. I have a simple dice and a diceview that should show the  
>>> new image of the dice depending on what the new value of the dice  
>>> is. For some reason, the image of the dice does not get refreshed  
>>> in the system window. Can someone help me here?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Manas
>>>
>>>
>>> <CS598rej-Dice.st>
>>> <dice2.JPG>
>>> <dice3.JPG>
>>> <dice4.JPG>
>>> <dice5.JPG>
>>> <dice6.JPG>
>>> <Dice.jpg>
>>> <dice1.JPG>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

> all I want to emphasize is that "simple things should be kept  
> simple" and that Smalltalk and MVC do not always provide us with  
> the right perspective for doing so.
>
> I love the uniformity of the Smalltalk approach and wonder how a  
> smooth transition of a system like Etoys, where all objects are  
> user interface, into a full fledged programming system could look  
> like. Is it Tweak? Is it something else? I don't know.
>
> "Form follows function --- that has been misunderstood. Form and  
> function should be one, joined in a spiritual union" (Frank Lloyd  
> Wright)