Quinto game in SBE
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Hi Bill --
The game works fine in my image. 1) The first thing I would look at is when the debugger comes up I would select the second line from the top of the list that is shown in the top pane of the debugger. When you do that the debugger opens and will have the offending message highlighted. I would select the object that is getting that message and cmd-i ( or ctl-i ) which brings up an inspector which will show you if you really have aSBECell or not. If you are not getting the right object there is probably something in the code that you did not copy correctly. Did you type the instructions in ? 2) same steps as one. By the way the code for the examples can be downloaded from squeaksource.com Steve _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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You can also grab all the example code in ascii from the book's web site (since copying and pasting from PDF does not work reliably). https://www.iam.unibe.ch/scg/svn_repos/SqueakByExample/examples.txt Just taking the already-working example from squeaksource is too much like cheating ... ;-) Oscar On Sep 19, 2007, at 17:49, Steve Moffitt wrote: > By the way the code for the examples can be downloaded from > squeaksource.com _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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I just noticed that the example code extraction was buggy. It is fixed now, and all the code from the Quinto chapter is now in the ascii example file. Oscar On Sep 19, 2007, at 18:22, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > > You can also grab all the example code in ascii from the book's web > site (since copying and pasting from PDF does not work reliably). > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/scg/svn_repos/SqueakByExample/examples.txt > > Just taking the already-working example from squeaksource is too > much like cheating ... ;-) > > Oscar > > On Sep 19, 2007, at 17:49, Steve Moffitt wrote: > >> By the way the code for the examples can be downloaded from >> squeaksource.com > _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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thanks for suggestions
turns out that my problem was that I was using an old 3.8 image I learnt from the book how to file out and file in - as soon as I tested my code in the 3.9 image it worked fine! A friend sent me some other information from the bugs site pointing out a bug in SimpleSwitchMorph in earlier versions: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://bugs.squeak.org/print_bug_page.php?bug_id=3530" target="_blank"> http://bugs.squeak.org/print_bug_page.php?bug_id=3530 Summary: 0003530: SimpleSwitchMorph does not actually implement switch functionality -- Bill Kerr http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/ On 9/20/07, Steve Moffitt <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Bill -- _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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Bill Kerr wrote:
> Problems: > 1) the final line of the SBECell initialize method: > self turnOff > triggers a MessageNotUnderstood error > doesNotUnderstand: #turnOff ... > turns out that my problem was that I was using an old 3.8 image > > I learnt from the book how to file out and file in - as soon as I tested my > code in the 3.9 image it worked fine! > > A friend sent me some other information from the bugs site pointing out a > bug in SimpleSwitchMorph in earlier versions: > http://bugs.squeak.org/print_bug_page.php?bug_id=3530 > > Summary: 0003530: SimpleSwitchMorph does not actually implement > switch functionality In 2007, many people's introduction to Squeak may be with an image derived from 3.8 (*). So I wonder if the book should not mention this patch prominently at the start of the First Application chapter. By the way, I probably learned a lot about Squeak by wrestling with this for a while this weekend without access to internet or a 3.9 image :) David (*) such as Croquet SDK, OLPC Etoys ... _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
Re: [croquet-dev] Re: Quinto game in SBE
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Hi David -
If you can find a bit of time to assemble a set of patches which will make those examples work, I'd be happy to fold them into the system to make sure these examples work out of the box. Cheers, - Andreas David Corking wrote: > Bill Kerr wrote: > >> Problems: >> 1) the final line of the SBECell initialize method: >> self turnOff >> triggers a MessageNotUnderstood error >> doesNotUnderstand: #turnOff > > ... > >> turns out that my problem was that I was using an old 3.8 image >> >> I learnt from the book how to file out and file in - as soon as I tested my >> code in the 3.9 image it worked fine! >> >> A friend sent me some other information from the bugs site pointing out a >> bug in SimpleSwitchMorph in earlier versions: >> http://bugs.squeak.org/print_bug_page.php?bug_id=3530 >> >> Summary: 0003530: SimpleSwitchMorph does not actually implement >> switch functionality > > In 2007, many people's introduction to Squeak may be with an image > derived from 3.8 (*). So I wonder if the book should not mention this > patch prominently at the start of the First Application chapter. > > By the way, I probably learned a lot about Squeak by wrestling with > this for a while this weekend without access to internet or a 3.9 > image :) > > David > > (*) such as Croquet SDK, OLPC Etoys ... > Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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Hi David, I made a note to underline this for the next edition. It *is* stated prominently at the beginning of the Quick Start chapter, but I guess the chapters should be more independent of each other for the Quicker Starters! Thanks for the feedback! Oscar On Sep 24, 2007, at 19:10, David Corking wrote: > In 2007, many people's introduction to Squeak may be with an image > derived from 3.8 (*). So I wonder if the book should not mention this > patch prominently at the start of the First Application chapter. > > By the way, I probably learned a lot about Squeak by wrestling with > this for a while this weekend without access to internet or a 3.9 > image :) > _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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Likewise for OLPC.
- Bert - On Sep 24, 2007, at 19:14 , Andreas Raab wrote: > Hi David - > > If you can find a bit of time to assemble a set of patches which > will make those examples work, I'd be happy to fold them into the > system to make sure these examples work out of the box. > > Cheers, > - Andreas > > David Corking wrote: >> Bill Kerr wrote: >>> Problems: >>> 1) the final line of the SBECell initialize method: >>> self turnOff >>> triggers a MessageNotUnderstood error >>> doesNotUnderstand: #turnOff >> ... >>> turns out that my problem was that I was using an old 3.8 image >>> >>> I learnt from the book how to file out and file in - as soon as I >>> tested my >>> code in the 3.9 image it worked fine! >>> >>> A friend sent me some other information from the bugs site >>> pointing out a >>> bug in SimpleSwitchMorph in earlier versions: >>> http://bugs.squeak.org/print_bug_page.php?bug_id=3530 >>> >>> Summary: 0003530: SimpleSwitchMorph does not actually >>> implement >>> switch functionality >> In 2007, many people's introduction to Squeak may be with an image >> derived from 3.8 (*). So I wonder if the book should not mention >> this >> patch prominently at the start of the First Application chapter. >> By the way, I probably learned a lot about Squeak by wrestling with >> this for a while this weekend without access to internet or a 3.9 >> image :) >> David >> (*) such as Croquet SDK, OLPC Etoys ... _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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On 9/24/07, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote:
> I made a note to underline this for the next edition. It *is* stated > prominently at the beginning of the Quick Start chapter, but I guess > the chapters should be more independent of each other for the Quicker > Starters! Yes I did see that, but to be honest I thought I was more likely to be at fault than the image forks I was playing with (and I didn't have internet access to try >= 3.9 image at the time) ! Since the 3.8 forks have become as mainstream as 'mainstream' then a footnote where the dependency arises will be a nice extra touch. On the other hand, the issue shows a real, if small, benefit of a production fork tracking mainstream where compatible. Andreas wrote: > If you can find a bit of time to assemble a set of patches which will > make those examples work, I'd be happy to fold them into the system to > make sure these examples work out of the box. Bert wrote: > Likewise for OLPC. I was under the impression that Marcus's changeset was likely to be an adequate patch. http://bugs.squeak.org/file_download.php?file_id=1399&type=bug However, I will try it against the OLPC and Croquet images on my desktop and report back. I will need to read more of SBE to learn not to use 'diff' and 'patch' :) David _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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The olpc etoys image now contains the compatibility code, as update
1666simpleSwitchMorph-apb for etoys2.2. For the moment, the TestCase subclass included with Andrew's fileout is omitted, since SUnit is absent from the olpc and Squeakland plug- in images. In due course we'll get that SimpleSwitchMorphTest code into the development version of the olpc code base, however. -- Scott On Sep 24, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > Likewise for OLPC. > > - Bert - > > > On Sep 24, 2007, at 19:14 , Andreas Raab wrote: > >> Hi David - >> >> If you can find a bit of time to assemble a set of patches which >> will make those examples work, I'd be happy to fold them into the >> system to make sure these examples work out of the box. >> >> Cheers, >> - Andreas >> >> David Corking wrote: >>> Bill Kerr wrote: >>>> Problems: >>>> 1) the final line of the SBECell initialize method: >>>> self turnOff >>>> triggers a MessageNotUnderstood error >>>> doesNotUnderstand: #turnOff >>> ... >>>> turns out that my problem was that I was using an old 3.8 image >>>> >>>> I learnt from the book how to file out and file in - as soon as >>>> I tested my >>>> code in the 3.9 image it worked fine! >>>> >>>> A friend sent me some other information from the bugs site >>>> pointing out a >>>> bug in SimpleSwitchMorph in earlier versions: >>>> http://bugs.squeak.org/print_bug_page.php?bug_id=3530 >>>> >>>> Summary: 0003530: SimpleSwitchMorph does not actually >>>> implement >>>> switch functionality >>> In 2007, many people's introduction to Squeak may be with an image >>> derived from 3.8 (*). So I wonder if the book should not mention >>> this >>> patch prominently at the start of the First Application chapter. >>> By the way, I probably learned a lot about Squeak by wrestling with >>> this for a while this weekend without access to internet or a 3.9 >>> image :) >>> David >>> (*) such as Croquet SDK, OLPC Etoys ... > > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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Andreas, I am following up on an old thread,
> > Bill Kerr wrote: > >> A friend sent me some other information from the bugs site pointing out a > >> bug in SimpleSwitchMorph in earlier versions: > >> http://bugs.squeak.org/print_bug_page.php?bug_id=3530 > >> > >> Summary: 0003530: SimpleSwitchMorph does not actually implement > >> switch functionality On 9/24/07, Andreas Raab wrote: > Hi David - > > If you can find a bit of time to assemble a set of patches which will > make those examples work, I'd be happy to fold them into the system to > make sure these examples work out of the box. I tested Marcus Denker's original changeset SwitchMorphEnh.2.cs at http://bugs.squeak.org/file_download.php?file_id=1399&type=bug in a Croquet SDK image Croquet.1.0.18.9 from the Wisconsin Croquet Collaborative. If works great and the example First Application in Squeak By Example is perfectly playable as it should be. Hope that helps. Would you like me to test against any other images? David _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
Re: [croquet-dev] Re: Quinto game in SBE
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David Corking wrote:
> I tested Marcus Denker's original changeset SwitchMorphEnh.2.cs at > http://bugs.squeak.org/file_download.php?file_id=1399&type=bug > in a Croquet SDK image > Croquet.1.0.18.9 >>from the Wisconsin Croquet Collaborative. > > If works great and the example First Application in Squeak By Example > is perfectly playable as it should be. Hope that helps. It will, thanks! > Would you like me to test against any other images? It may be useful to see if it works for the OLPC line of images as well. Cheers, - Andreas _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
Re: [croquet-dev] Re: Quinto game in SBE
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The SwitchMorph code for compatibility with Squeak by Example was
pushed to the olpc update stream last month. Cheers, -- Scott On Oct 3, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Andreas Raab wrote: > David Corking wrote: >> I tested Marcus Denker's original changeset SwitchMorphEnh.2.cs at >> http://bugs.squeak.org/file_download.php?file_id=1399&type=bug >> in a Croquet SDK image >> Croquet.1.0.18.9 >>> from the Wisconsin Croquet Collaborative. >> If works great and the example First Application in Squeak By Example >> is perfectly playable as it should be. Hope that helps. > > It will, thanks! > >> Would you like me to test against any other images? > > It may be useful to see if it works for the OLPC line of images as > well. > > Cheers, > - Andreas > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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