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Re: [Newbies] Delete translations

stephane ducasse
Bert

How do you store the translations?
Because it would be cool to get them per packages as ressources package.
I know that OLPC does not have mc but it would be good for Squeak.

I would like to see a merge or flow from OLPC new features to Squeak.
What would be the process to make sure that nothing is lost for squeak?

Stef

>
> Actually, we do not use NLT anymore for OLPC. We exported all  
> translations to po files:
>
> https://translations.launchpad.net/etoys/first-deployment/+pots/etoys
>
> This lets use use the "gettext" translation tools that are the  
> standard in Linux.
>
>> It is very easy to add languages, merge, etc, but I do not find  
>> how to delete one of them.
>>
>> Another question:
>> Which is Babel function?
>
> Not sure what the question is.
>
> - Bert -
>
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Re: Delete translations

Bert Freudenberg
Per-package translation files can provide translations for a specific  
class category. This overrides the default translation file provided  
with the system. We are testing this with DrGeoII in fact, we made a  
DrGeoII.mo file and place that next to the etoys.mo file containing  
the system translations, and translations from the new file will get  
picked up for all classes in the DrGeoII-* categories.

This work is not finished and integrated yet, but supporting  
independent translations for add-on packages has been a design  
requirement from the beginning, since we do want to support those  
additions as well as possible.

To get features like this into the squeak.org version, someone would  
have to take on the task of "harvesting" interesting things from the  
OLPC etoys update stream.

- Bert -

On Oct 23, 2007, at 7:35 , stephane ducasse wrote:

> Bert
>
> How do you store the translations?
> Because it would be cool to get them per packages as ressources  
> package.
> I know that OLPC does not have mc but it would be good for Squeak.
>
> I would like to see a merge or flow from OLPC new features to Squeak.
> What would be the process to make sure that nothing is lost for  
> squeak?
>
> Stef
>>
>> Actually, we do not use NLT anymore for OLPC. We exported all  
>> translations to po files:
>>
>> https://translations.launchpad.net/etoys/first-deployment/+pots/etoys
>>
>> This lets use use the "gettext" translation tools that are the  
>> standard in Linux.
>>
>>> It is very easy to add languages, merge, etc, but I do not find  
>>> how to delete one of them.
>>>
>>> Another question:
>>> Which is Babel function?
>>
>> Not sure what the question is.
>>
>> - Bert -


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Re: Delete translations

Philippe Marschall
2007/10/23, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>:

> Per-package translation files can provide translations for a specific
> class category. This overrides the default translation file provided
> with the system. We are testing this with DrGeoII in fact, we made a
> DrGeoII.mo file and place that next to the etoys.mo file containing
> the system translations, and translations from the new file will get
> picked up for all classes in the DrGeoII-* categories.
>
> This work is not finished and integrated yet, but supporting
> independent translations for add-on packages has been a design
> requirement from the beginning, since we do want to support those
> additions as well as possible.
>
> To get features like this into the squeak.org version, someone would
> have to take on the task of "harvesting" interesting things from the
> OLPC etoys update stream.

:( So there isn't a Monticello package for this?

Cheers
Phlippe

> - Bert -
>
> On Oct 23, 2007, at 7:35 , stephane ducasse wrote:
>
> > Bert
> >
> > How do you store the translations?
> > Because it would be cool to get them per packages as ressources
> > package.
> > I know that OLPC does not have mc but it would be good for Squeak.
> >
> > I would like to see a merge or flow from OLPC new features to Squeak.
> > What would be the process to make sure that nothing is lost for
> > squeak?
> >
> > Stef
> >>
> >> Actually, we do not use NLT anymore for OLPC. We exported all
> >> translations to po files:
> >>
> >> https://translations.launchpad.net/etoys/first-deployment/+pots/etoys
> >>
> >> This lets use use the "gettext" translation tools that are the
> >> standard in Linux.
> >>
> >>> It is very easy to add languages, merge, etc, but I do not find
> >>> how to delete one of them.
> >>>
> >>> Another question:
> >>> Which is Babel function?
> >>
> >> Not sure what the question is.
> >>
> >> - Bert -
>
>
>

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Re: Delete translations

Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 24, 2007, at 1:11 , Philippe Marschall wrote:

> 2007/10/23, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>:
>> Per-package translation files can provide translations for a specific
>> class category. This overrides the default translation file provided
>> with the system. We are testing this with DrGeoII in fact, we made a
>> DrGeoII.mo file and place that next to the etoys.mo file containing
>> the system translations, and translations from the new file will get
>> picked up for all classes in the DrGeoII-* categories.
>>
>> This work is not finished and integrated yet, but supporting
>> independent translations for add-on packages has been a design
>> requirement from the beginning, since we do want to support those
>> additions as well as possible.
>>
>> To get features like this into the squeak.org version, someone would
>> have to take on the task of "harvesting" interesting things from the
>> OLPC etoys update stream.
>
> :( So there isn't a Monticello package for this?

The OLPC Etoys image is maintained by changesets in an update stream.

- Bert -


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Re: Delete translations

Philippe Marschall
2007/10/24, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>:

> On Oct 24, 2007, at 1:11 , Philippe Marschall wrote:
>
> > 2007/10/23, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>:
> >> Per-package translation files can provide translations for a specific
> >> class category. This overrides the default translation file provided
> >> with the system. We are testing this with DrGeoII in fact, we made a
> >> DrGeoII.mo file and place that next to the etoys.mo file containing
> >> the system translations, and translations from the new file will get
> >> picked up for all classes in the DrGeoII-* categories.
> >>
> >> This work is not finished and integrated yet, but supporting
> >> independent translations for add-on packages has been a design
> >> requirement from the beginning, since we do want to support those
> >> additions as well as possible.
> >>
> >> To get features like this into the squeak.org version, someone would
> >> have to take on the task of "harvesting" interesting things from the
> >> OLPC etoys update stream.
> >
> > :( So there isn't a Monticello package for this?
>
> The OLPC Etoys image is maintained by changesets in an update stream.

I didn't mean how the image is maintained but how you develop the
code. Do you use Changesets?

Cheers
Philippe

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Re: Delete translations

Bert Freudenberg

On Oct 24, 2007, at 8:47 , Philippe Marschall wrote:

> 2007/10/24, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>:
>> On Oct 24, 2007, at 1:11 , Philippe Marschall wrote:
>>
>>> 2007/10/23, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>:
>>>> Per-package translation files can provide translations for a  
>>>> specific
>>>> class category. This overrides the default translation file  
>>>> provided
>>>> with the system. We are testing this with DrGeoII in fact, we  
>>>> made a
>>>> DrGeoII.mo file and place that next to the etoys.mo file containing
>>>> the system translations, and translations from the new file will  
>>>> get
>>>> picked up for all classes in the DrGeoII-* categories.
>>>>
>>>> This work is not finished and integrated yet, but supporting
>>>> independent translations for add-on packages has been a design
>>>> requirement from the beginning, since we do want to support those
>>>> additions as well as possible.
>>>>
>>>> To get features like this into the squeak.org version, someone  
>>>> would
>>>> have to take on the task of "harvesting" interesting things from  
>>>> the
>>>> OLPC etoys update stream.
>>>
>>> :( So there isn't a Monticello package for this?
>>
>> The OLPC Etoys image is maintained by changesets in an update stream.
>
> I didn't mean how the image is maintained but how you develop the
> code. Do you use Changesets?

For the majority of system changes, yes.

- Bert -



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Re: Delete translations

stephane ducasse
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On 23 oct. 07, at 16:00, Bert Freudenberg wrote:

> Per-package translation files can provide translations for a  
> specific class category. This overrides the default translation  
> file provided with the system. We are testing this with DrGeoII in  
> fact, we made a DrGeoII.mo file and place that next to the etoys.mo  
> file containing the system translations, and translations from the  
> new file will get picked up for all classes in the DrGeoII-*  
> categories.

Ok I would have to really have a look to understand.
With hilaire we always wanted to have translations attached to packages.
>
> This work is not finished and integrated yet, but supporting  
> independent translations for add-on packages has been a design  
> requirement from the beginning, since we do want to support those  
> additions as well as possible.
>
> To get features like this into the squeak.org version, someone  
> would have to take on the task of "harvesting" interesting things  
> from the OLPC etoys update stream.

yes I would like to do this task if I participate to the 3.11
Now I was wondering how I could keep tracks of this (besides reading  
the changesets)

>
> - Bert -
>
> On Oct 23, 2007, at 7:35 , stephane ducasse wrote:
>
>> Bert
>>
>> How do you store the translations?
>> Because it would be cool to get them per packages as ressources  
>> package.
>> I know that OLPC does not have mc but it would be good for Squeak.
>>
>> I would like to see a merge or flow from OLPC new features to Squeak.
>> What would be the process to make sure that nothing is lost for  
>> squeak?
>>
>> Stef
>>>
>>> Actually, we do not use NLT anymore for OLPC. We exported all  
>>> translations to po files:
>>>
>>> https://translations.launchpad.net/etoys/first-deployment/+pots/ 
>>> etoys
>>>
>>> This lets use use the "gettext" translation tools that are the  
>>> standard in Linux.
>>>
>>>> It is very easy to add languages, merge, etc, but I do not find  
>>>> how to delete one of them.
>>>>
>>>> Another question:
>>>> Which is Babel function?
>>>
>>> Not sure what the question is.
>>>
>>> - Bert -
>
>
>


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Re: Delete translations

Bert Freudenberg
http://etoys.laptop.org/src/ChangeLog
http://etoys.laptop.org/src/NEWS

- Bert -

On Oct 24, 2007, at 13:00 , stephane ducasse wrote:

>
> On 23 oct. 07, at 16:00, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>
>> Per-package translation files can provide translations for a  
>> specific class category. This overrides the default translation  
>> file provided with the system. We are testing this with DrGeoII in  
>> fact, we made a DrGeoII.mo file and place that next to the  
>> etoys.mo file containing the system translations, and translations  
>> from the new file will get picked up for all classes in the  
>> DrGeoII-* categories.
>
> Ok I would have to really have a look to understand.
> With hilaire we always wanted to have translations attached to  
> packages.
>>
>> This work is not finished and integrated yet, but supporting  
>> independent translations for add-on packages has been a design  
>> requirement from the beginning, since we do want to support those  
>> additions as well as possible.
>>
>> To get features like this into the squeak.org version, someone  
>> would have to take on the task of "harvesting" interesting things  
>> from the OLPC etoys update stream.
>
> yes I would like to do this task if I participate to the 3.11
> Now I was wondering how I could keep tracks of this (besides  
> reading the changesets)
>
>>
>> - Bert -
>>
>> On Oct 23, 2007, at 7:35 , stephane ducasse wrote:
>>
>>> Bert
>>>
>>> How do you store the translations?
>>> Because it would be cool to get them per packages as ressources  
>>> package.
>>> I know that OLPC does not have mc but it would be good for Squeak.
>>>
>>> I would like to see a merge or flow from OLPC new features to  
>>> Squeak.
>>> What would be the process to make sure that nothing is lost for  
>>> squeak?
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>>
>>>> Actually, we do not use NLT anymore for OLPC. We exported all  
>>>> translations to po files:
>>>>
>>>> https://translations.launchpad.net/etoys/first-deployment/+pots/ 
>>>> etoys
>>>>
>>>> This lets use use the "gettext" translation tools that are the  
>>>> standard in Linux.
>>>>
>>>>> It is very easy to add languages, merge, etc, but I do not find  
>>>>> how to delete one of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another question:
>>>>> Which is Babel function?
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what the question is.
>>>>
>>>> - Bert -
>>