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Re: [Pharo-project] could not find module vm-display-X11

Mariano Martinez Peck
 
I cc'ed vm mailing list that maybe they can help you.

Cheers

mariano

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:56 AM, spiralofhope <[hidden email]> wrote:
Reading here:
http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download
It says this file "contains all necessary files", so I downloaded it:
http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26828/Pharo-1.0-OneClick.zip
It says "run the executable".  I don't know what executable it's
referring to, so I'm trying Pharo.sh

When I do, I get:
 could not find module vm-display-X11

I've done general searches as well as searches through the Pharo forum
and mailing lists.  I haven't seen anyone else with this problem, so I'm
still not sure what to do and I need help.

I'm running Linux i686.. it's only a release candidate distro (Unity
Linux), so I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there are
distro/library issues.

I can give additional system information if you need.  The website
doesn't mention any dependencies, but could I be missing some?

---

Reading here:
http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download
I see a section for "Custom downloads".

The instructions say:
To run Pharo you need an image, changes, and a sources file, as well as
a VM for your platform. When downloads are completed, uncompress all
files and put them into the same directory (this directory should then
contain a .image, .changes, and a .sources file). Then start the VM.

I downloaded these files:
Image and Changes:
http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26790/Pharo-1.0.zip
Sources:
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/24391/PharoV10.sources.zip
Virtual Machine:
http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/24736/pharo-vm-0.15.2f-linux.zip

I unzipped them all into the same directory.

Pharo-1.0.zip already had a PharoV10.sources within it, so I used the
one from PharoV10.sources.zip

I see these files in the same directory:
 Pharo-1.0.image
 Pharo-1.0.changes
 PharoV10.sources

I don't know what to do now, there are no instructions for running
Pharo after those steps.

---

I've done a lot of playing outside of the above steps, but I'm
completely ignorant of how Pharo is installed (or compiled?) and run.
So far it's nothing like the other software I've used.

Any advice is appreciated.  I'm also willing to try a LiveCD of any
Linux/BSD distro if that'll help me get Pharo working more easily.  My
goal here is just to check Pharo out, so I could deal with using another
distro temporarily.


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Re: could not find module vm-display-X11

spiralofhope
 
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:39:34 +0200
Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I cc'ed vm mailing list that maybe they can help you.

Just a quick note that I've subscribed to this list to make
communication less complex.

I'm going to explore Squeak to try to reproduce this issue with it.
Maybe if I can get Squeak working I'll learn enough to get Pharo
working.

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Re: could not find module vm-display-X11

laurent laffont
 
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:43 AM, spiralofhope <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:39:34 +0200
Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I cc'ed vm mailing list that maybe they can help you.

Just a quick note that I've subscribed to this list to make
communication less complex.

I'm going to explore Squeak to try to reproduce this issue with it.
Maybe if I can get Squeak working I'll learn enough to get Pharo
working.


The VM is the same so if you can open a Squeak image you can also open a Pharo image.

You can try last vm binaries found here: http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/. For example take http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-4.0.3.2202-linux_i386.tar.gz, extract the archive, cd into it and type:

./bin/squeak /path/to/pharo_or_squeak.image

Is there a virtualbox/qemu/vmware image of the Linux distro you use so we can try ?

Cheers,

Laurent Laffont

 

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Re: could not find module vm-display-X11

Mariano Martinez Peck
 


On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:17 AM, laurent laffont <[hidden email]> wrote:
 
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:43 AM, spiralofhope <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:39:34 +0200
Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I cc'ed vm mailing list that maybe they can help you.

Just a quick note that I've subscribed to this list to make
communication less complex.

I'm going to explore Squeak to try to reproduce this issue with it.
Maybe if I can get Squeak working I'll learn enough to get Pharo
working.


The VM is the same so if you can open a Squeak image you can also open a Pharo image.

You can try last vm binaries found here: http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/. For example take http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-4.0.3.2202-linux_i386.tar.gz, extract the archive, cd into it and type:

./bin/squeak /path/to/pharo_or_squeak.image

Is there a virtualbox/qemu/vmware image of the Linux distro you use so we can try ?

or just ssh ;)
 

Cheers,

Laurent Laffont

 



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Re: could not find module vm-display-X11

David T. Lewis
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 09:17:51AM +0200, laurent laffont wrote:

>  
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:43 AM, spiralofhope <[hidden email]>wrote:
>
> >
> > On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:39:34 +0200
> > Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > I cc'ed vm mailing list that maybe they can help you.
> >
> > Just a quick note that I've subscribed to this list to make
> > communication less complex.
> >
> > I'm going to explore Squeak to try to reproduce this issue with it.
> > Maybe if I can get Squeak working I'll learn enough to get Pharo
> > working.
> >
> >
> The VM is the same so if you can open a Squeak image you can also open a
> Pharo image.
>
> You can try last vm binaries found here: http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/. For
> example take
> http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-4.0.3.2202-linux_i386.tar.gz,
> extract the archive, cd into it and type:
>
> ./bin/squeak /path/to/pharo_or_squeak.image
>

Yes this is good advice.

The vm-display-X11 is a loadable module similar to an external plugin.
The error message you are seeing suggests that the VM was able to locate
the module, but had a problem when loading it. Possibly this is an
issue with the versions or locations of runtime libraries on your Linux
system.

The first thing to try is to use the latest VM from squeakvm/org/unix
and see if this makes a difference.

Dave

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Re: could not find module vm-display-X11

spiralofhope
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:43:40 -0700
spiralofhope <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'm going to explore Squeak to try to reproduce this issue with it.
> Maybe if I can get Squeak working I'll learn enough to get Pharo
> working.

I was previously using release candidate 1 of my distro, fully
updated. I reinstalled my system, using the new candidate 2.  I then
followed the steps to reproduce the issue.

. and I cannot.  I see a gui open up, and I'm able to step through the
integrated tutorial.

Whatever issue I was having has been solved by this reinstall.  Perhaps
my earlier tinkering broke some of the innards of my earlier distro
install or there was some issue that's since been resolved.


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Re: could not find module vm-display-X11

David T. Lewis
 
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 08:01:24PM -0700, spiralofhope wrote:

>  
> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:43:40 -0700
> spiralofhope <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I'm going to explore Squeak to try to reproduce this issue with it.
> > Maybe if I can get Squeak working I'll learn enough to get Pharo
> > working.
>
> I was previously using release candidate 1 of my distro, fully
> updated. I reinstalled my system, using the new candidate 2.  I then
> followed the steps to reproduce the issue.
>
> . and I cannot.  I see a gui open up, and I'm able to step through the
> integrated tutorial.
>
> Whatever issue I was having has been solved by this reinstall.  Perhaps
> my earlier tinkering broke some of the innards of my earlier distro
> install or there was some issue that's since been resolved.

That's good news, thanks for the update.