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Re: [Pharo-project] who is maintaining shout?

Eliot Miranda-2
Personally I don't mind having the preference in code.  Its nice to be able to see what one's settings are in the patch browser.  What I mind is the lack of support for temporarily rescinding my change to the method when I commit the monticello package.  Yes I can save the image, revert, commit, exit, restart and merge, but that's a RR PITA.  Yes I can file-out, revert, commit, file back in.  That's much better but still a PITA.  Acceptable is to view changes to the package (a Patch Browser), open versions on the method(s) I want to revert, revert in the changed list, commit and then revert.

What would be really nice would be a per-method temporary revert check mark in the patch browser, and a commit button in the patch browser that applied the reversions, spawned the save, waiting for it to complete or be closed, and the undid the reversions.  Almost as nice would be three buttons, revert checked, save and unrevert checked.

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Maybe add a new Setting for Shout for Pharo 1.1 ?

Yeah, but it is difficult because the code is built around these
specification arrays.

You can already today change the settings without touching the code
(in a load script for example):

   SHTextStylerST80 styleTable: #( (comment ( green ) ... )

Lukas

>
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote:
>>
>> > I absolutely agree with Torsten. Here's one I made myself for VaSt, and
>> > I've been using it for 8 years now:
>> >
>> > <PehuTextEnhancer.png>
>> >
>> > Note (whatever you might think of all the other fonts and colours) that
>> > the comments are green ;-)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cheers,
>> > Peter
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > Stef wrote
>> > >Because I would like to change the default color of comments.
>> > >Green is really ugly for the release.
>> >
>> > Please no! This is subject to personal taste.
>> >
>> > In most text editors and IDE's I know the comments are always
>> > green by default independent from language.
>> >
>> > So I would keep it since this is what is common in developer
>> > tools. If you want you can have your own. So shout is already
>> > what most users may expect. Please keep it.
>> >
>> > See
>> >
>> > C/C++ Eclipse
>> > http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/e/eclipse_ide_for_c-c++_developers-133195-1.jpeg
>> > C/C++ VStudio
>> > http://www.lisisoft.com/imglisi/4/OptimizeUtilities/51119text-editor-pro-screenshot.jpg
>> > PHP Antechius
>> > http://www.lisisoft.com/imglisi/7/HelpfileTools/37086phpedscreen.jpg
>> > JavaScript      http://assets.devx.com/articlefigs/19100.png
>> > Java Eclipse
>> >  http://www.oio.de/public/opensource/eclipse/eclipse_editor.jpg
>> > C# Eclipse
>> >  http://emonic.sourceforge.net/html/CSharpEditorWithCompletion.jpg
>> > VB SharpDevelop http://www.borncity.de/Net/Img/SharpDevelop.jpg
>> > ...
>> >
>> > Bye
>> > T.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT!
>> > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Pharo-project mailing list
>> > [hidden email]
>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Pharo-project mailing list
>> > [hidden email]
>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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Re: [Pharo-project] who is maintaining shout?

Chris Muller-3
Hi Eliot, the way I do this is:

  - Select the package you're about to version in Monticello browser
  - Select the Changes button
  - For each method that you want to temporarily revert, select it,
then select "revert"
  - Leave the Changes window up!
  - Save the package normally
  - Now, back in the Changes window, select the reverted methods and
select "install".

Very quick and easy.



On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Personally I don't mind having the preference in code.  Its nice to be able
> to see what one's settings are in the patch browser.  What I mind is the
> lack of support for temporarily rescinding my change to the method when I
> commit the monticello package.  Yes I can save the image, revert, commit,
> exit, restart and merge, but that's a RR PITA.  Yes I can file-out, revert,
> commit, file back in.  That's much better but still a PITA.  Acceptable is
> to view changes to the package (a Patch Browser), open versions on the
> method(s) I want to revert, revert in the changed list, commit and then
> revert.
> What would be really nice would be a per-method temporary revert check mark
> in the patch browser, and a commit button in the patch browser that applied
> the reversions, spawned the save, waiting for it to complete or be closed,
> and the undid the reversions.  Almost as nice would be three buttons, revert
> checked, save and unrevert checked.
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > Maybe add a new Setting for Shout for Pharo 1.1 ?
>>
>> Yeah, but it is difficult because the code is built around these
>> specification arrays.
>>
>> You can already today change the settings without touching the code
>> (in a load script for example):
>>
>>    SHTextStylerST80 styleTable: #( (comment ( green ) ... )
>>
>> Lukas
>>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Stef
>> >>
>> >> On Apr 7, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I absolutely agree with Torsten. Here's one I made myself for VaSt,
>> >> > and
>> >> > I've been using it for 8 years now:
>> >> >
>> >> > <PehuTextEnhancer.png>
>> >> >
>> >> > Note (whatever you might think of all the other fonts and colours)
>> >> > that
>> >> > the comments are green ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> > Peter
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > Stef wrote
>> >> > >Because I would like to change the default color of comments.
>> >> > >Green is really ugly for the release.
>> >> >
>> >> > Please no! This is subject to personal taste.
>> >> >
>> >> > In most text editors and IDE's I know the comments are always
>> >> > green by default independent from language.
>> >> >
>> >> > So I would keep it since this is what is common in developer
>> >> > tools. If you want you can have your own. So shout is already
>> >> > what most users may expect. Please keep it.
>> >> >
>> >> > See
>> >> >
>> >> > C/C++ Eclipse
>> >> >
>> >> > http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/e/eclipse_ide_for_c-c++_developers-133195-1.jpeg
>> >> > C/C++ VStudio
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.lisisoft.com/imglisi/4/OptimizeUtilities/51119text-editor-pro-screenshot.jpg
>> >> > PHP Antechius
>> >> > http://www.lisisoft.com/imglisi/7/HelpfileTools/37086phpedscreen.jpg
>> >> > JavaScript      http://assets.devx.com/articlefigs/19100.png
>> >> > Java Eclipse
>> >> >  http://www.oio.de/public/opensource/eclipse/eclipse_editor.jpg
>> >> > C# Eclipse
>> >> >  http://emonic.sourceforge.net/html/CSharpEditorWithCompletion.jpg
>> >> > VB SharpDevelop http://www.borncity.de/Net/Img/SharpDevelop.jpg
>> >> > ...
>> >> >
>> >> > Bye
>> >> > T.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT!
>> >> > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Pharo-project mailing list
>> >> > [hidden email]
>> >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Pharo-project mailing list
>> >> > [hidden email]
>> >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>> >>
>> >>
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>>
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>>
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