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joshscholar

Re: Questions about the squeak license

I thought that the license on Apple's fonts was very restrictive (perhaps
like GNU general), and that you have to rid your image of Apples' fonts if
you want to do anything commercial.

Josh Scholar

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From: "stéphane ducasse" <[hidden email]>
To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
<[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:13 AM
Subject: Questions about the squeak license

> Hi all
>
> Here is a list of question I have about the squeak license and the
> answers I think.
> I know that it seems naive, silly.... still I would like to have
> answers to these questions.
>
> - Can I distribute freely applications in Squeak?
> yes
>
> - Do I have to pay anything for runtime?
> no
>
> - What is my responsibility if the user gets damaged by using my
> software
> using MIT for my code, the user takes the risks to use my software
>
> - What is my responsibility as a distributor of Squeak if the user
> gets damaged
> by using Squeak?
> ???
>
> - Can I distribute a Squeak image with my code loaded?
> yes
>
> - Can I distribute the code of my application?
> yes
>
> - Should I include the Squeak-L license for my code?
> no
>
> - Can I change the license of Squeak when I distribute my code?
> no
>
> - Can I modify the Squeak distribution?
> yes
>
> - Can I modify the squeak distribution and distribute my own version?
> yes
>
> - Can I use any license I want for my code?
> yes
>
> - Do I have to make my code under the Squeak license?
> no
>
> - Do I have to give back the fixes I do in the Squeak distribution?
> yes
>
> - Can I sell my application?
> yes
>
> - Can Apple attack me because I'm developing in Squeak?
> no
>
>
>
>
>

Philippe Marschall

Re: Questions about the squeak license

> - Can I distribute a Squeak image with my code loaded?
> yes
Sorry to sound like a troll, but is that true even if your customer
lives in Syria, Iran and all the other countries that are under US
export regulations?
Are you even allowed to use Squeak in these countries?

Cees De Groot

Re: Questions about the squeak license

In reply to this post by joshscholar

On 1/12/06, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I thought that the license on Apple's fonts was very restrictive (perhaps
> like GNU general), and that you have to rid your image of Apples' fonts if
> you want to do anything commercial.
>
Well, that is not what the license says - it just says that you can
use the Apple fonts only in the context of Squeak.

And that clause was written before it was firmly established (at least
in US law) that bitmapped fonts are not copyrightable works anyway.

Cees De Groot

Re: Questions about the squeak license

In reply to this post by Philippe Marschall

On 1/12/06, Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > - Can I distribute a Squeak image with my code loaded?
> > yes
> Sorry to sound like a troll, but is that true even if your customer
> lives in Syria, Iran and all the other countries that are under US
> export regulations?
> Are you even allowed to use Squeak in these countries?
>
Sure. The license doesn't say anything about that. It's the "exporter"
that is at risk. Luckily, these days, simply offering something on a
website for download doesn't seem to be regarded as exporting anymore.
That clause is mostly a paper tiger.

(envisioning an Afghan Al Qaeda training camp where they huddle around
a campfire and an iBook trying to find out how they can use EToys to
do Bad Things[tm])

Blake-5

Re: Questions about the squeak license

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 00:23:08 -0800, Cees De Groot <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> (envisioning an Afghan Al Qaeda training camp where they huddle around
> a campfire and an iBook trying to find out how they can use EToys to
> do Bad Things[tm])

"Reference a nil object again!"