Re: [Seaside] Anyone working seaside + web3D ?
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Re: [Seaside] Anyone working seaside + web3D ?
 
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On 8/3/10 1:42 PM, Casimiro de Almeida Barreto wrote:Nope... X3D is related to browsing & integrating dynamic 3D streaming content to the browsing experience. Obviously, on the client (browser) side Cobalt has the tools for building such a browser that could be integrated to the Virtual World experience. Particularly it handles well VRML and most media formats. Another possibility would go the other way and creating a "Cobalt plugin" for a browser handling - among other things - .x3d formats, but that would be cumbersome (to say the least). Even so, if the purpose is purely integrating plugins capable or process .x3d and other related markup formats & rendering content even Balloon3D have tools allowing it. So, again, from client side the stuff would be building a browser capable of .x3d manipulation (browsing) with adequate plugins. Up to the moment there are no good & complete (html) browsers either in squeak nor in pharo... Just wonder why... But again... there are none in java either... One interesting thing would be creating an authoring tool for .x3d. Currently most things are done by hand. On the server side (here goes seaside) there's the need to serve media content. Particularly VRML. That was the reason of the question. Another thing is that Cog is not going well with Ballon3D or Cobalt (at least when I compile it). I must go into it & see what's going on... For instance, Wonderland new results in a warning window telling me that "This squeak does not have real 3D support. Opening a Wonderland will be EXTREMELY time consuming..." and yeah... it is... really !!! Interesting enough, Cog creates Balloon3D accelerator plugin and recognizes GL (NVIDIA and Intel GPUs) during compilation... When I start cobalt-trunk.28.image Cog bangs with: [casimiro@localhost OpenCobalt]$ /opt/cog/squeak cobalt-trunk.28.image Segmentation fault Smalltalk stack dump: 0xbf89e550 M TranslucentColor>pixelWordForDepth: 2040270664: a(n) TranslucentColor 0xbf89e570 M TranslucentColor(Color)>bitPatternForDepth: 2040270664: a(n) TranslucentColor 0xbf89e58c M TranslucentColor>bitPatternForDepth: 2040270664: a(n) TranslucentColor 0xbf89e5a8 M DisplayScreen(Form)>bitPatternFor: 2003017884: a(n) DisplayScreen 0xbf89e5c4 M GrafPort(BitBlt)>fillColor: 2040711644: a(n) GrafPort 0xbf89e5e0 M GrafPort>fillPattern: 2040711644: a(n) GrafPort 0xbf89e608 M FormCanvas>setFillColor: 2040711608: a(n) FormCanvas 0xbf89e628 M FormCanvas>frameAndFillRectangle:fillColor:borderWidth:borderColor: 2040711608: a(n) FormCanvas 0xbf89e650 M FormCanvas(Canvas)>fillRectangle:color: 2040711608: a(n) FormCanvas 0xbf89e674 M FormCanvas>fillRectangle:fillStyle: 2040711608: a(n) FormCanvas 0xbf89e698 M [] in UserDialogBoxMorph(Morph)>drawDropShadowOn: 2040263020: a(n) UserDialogBoxMorph 0xbf89e6b4 M CornerRounder class>roundCornersOf:on:in:displayBlock:borderWidth:corners: 2017278836: a(n) CornerRounder class 0xbf89e6e4 M FormCanvas>roundCornersOf:in:during: 2040711608: a(n) FormCanvas 0xbf89e708 M FormCanvas(Canvas)>roundCornersOf:during: 2040711608: a(n) FormCanvas 0xbf89e728 M [] in UserDialogBoxMorph(Morph)>drawDropShadowOn: 2040263020: a(n) UserDialogBoxMorph 0xbf89e74c I FormCanvas>translateBy:during: 2040489952: a(n) FormCanvas 0xbf89e76c M UserDialogBoxMorph(Morph)>drawDropShadowOn: 2040263020: a(n) UserDialogBoxMorph 0xbf89e788 M UserDialogBoxMorph(Morph)>fullDrawOn: 2040263020: a(n) UserDialogBoxMorph 0xbf89e7a4 M FormCanvas(Canvas)>fullDraw: 2040489952: a(n) FormCanvas 0xbf89e7c0 M FormCanvas(Canvas)>fullDrawMorph: 2040489952: a(n) FormCanvas 0xbf89e810 M [] in WorldState>drawWorld:submorphs:invalidAreasOn: 2002919804: a(n) WorldState 0xbf89e848 I Rectangle>allAreasOutsideList:startingAt:do: 2040462040: a(n) Rectangle 0xbf89e874 I Rectangle>allAreasOutsideList:do: 2040462040: a(n) Rectangle 0xbf89e8b0 M [] in WorldState>drawWorld:submorphs:invalidAreasOn: 2002919804: a(n) WorldState 0xbf89e8d4 M Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2040485848: a(n) Array 0xbf89e90c I WorldState>drawWorld:submorphs:invalidAreasOn: 2002919804: a(n) WorldState 0xbf89e944 M [] in WorldState>displayWorld:submorphs: 2002919804: a(n) WorldState 0xbf89e964 I FormCanvas>roundCornersOf:in:during: 2036135040: a(n) FormCanvas 0xbf89e990 I FormCanvas(Canvas)>roundCornersOf:during: 2036135040: a(n) FormCanvas 0xbf89e9c0 I WorldState>displayWorld:submorphs: 2002919804: a(n) WorldState 0xbf89e9e8 I PasteUpMorph>privateOuterDisplayWorld 2002920056: a(n) PasteUpMorph 0xbf89ea08 I PasteUpMorph>displayWorld 2002920056: a(n) PasteUpMorph 0xbf89ea2c I [] in WorldState>displayWorldSafely: 2002919804: a(n) WorldState 0xbf89ea48 M BlockClosure>on:do: 2040485224: a(n) BlockClosure 0xbf89ea68 M BlockClosure>ifError: 2040485224: a(n) BlockClosure 0xbf89ea8c I WorldState>displayWorldSafely: 2002919804: a(n) WorldState 0xbf89eab4 I WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2002919804: a(n) WorldState 0xbf89ead8 I WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 2002919804: a(n) WorldState 0xbf89eb00 I WorldState>doOneSubCycleFor: 2002919804: a(n) WorldState 0xbf89eb24 I PasteUpMorph>doOneSubCycle 2002920056: a(n) PasteUpMorph 0xbf89eb50 I UserDialogBoxMorph>runModalIn:forHand:at: 2040263020: a(n) UserDialogBoxMorph 0xbf89eb7c I UserDialogBoxMorph class>inform:title:at: 2017359812: a(n) UserDialogBoxMorph class 0xbf89eba8 I UserDialogBoxMorph class>inform:title: 2017359812: a(n) UserDialogBoxMorph class 0xbf89ebd0 I UserDialogBoxMorph class>inform: 2017359812: a(n) UserDialogBoxMorph class 0xbf89ebf4 I MorphicUIManager>inform: 2032900144: a(n) MorphicUIManager 0xbf89ec18 I FileDirectory class(Object)>inform: 2017278508: a(n) FileDirectory class 0xbf89ec4c I FileDirectory 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HandMorph>processEvents 2036154968 s [] in WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2036154876 s Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2036154784 s WorldState>handsDo: 2036154684 s WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2036154592 s WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 2036154500 s PasteUpMorph>doOneCycle 2036123380 s [] in Project class>spawnNewProcess 2036123208 s [] in BlockClosure>newProcess Most recent primitives copyBits copyBits copyBits @ primDisplayString:from:to:map:xTable:kern: @ species species basicNew truncated fractionPart fractionPart truncated fractionPart truncated fractionPart truncated basicNew truncated fractionPart fractionPart truncated fractionPart truncated fractionPart truncated new: at:put: at:put: at:put: at:put: @ basicNew basicNew: @ @ new: at:put: at:put: at:put: at:put: value: @ @ basicNew @ @ basicNew basicNew: at:put: at:put: @ basicNew copyBits @ @ basicNew @ @ basicNew basicNew: basicNew @ @ basicNew copyBits @ @ basicNew @ @ basicNew @ @ basicNew copyBits @ @ basicNew @ @ basicNew @ @ 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bitShiftMagnitude: Abortado (imagem do núcleo gravada) [casimiro@localhost OpenCobalt]$ Best regards, CdAB |
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