Well, I think Pavel's is the short term and Craig's the long term as
it takes a much more aggressive approach to solving some of the issues of Smalltalking. On 9/26/07, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote: > By saying "no offense to Craig" you seem to be saying it will be > Pavel, NOT Craig. > > In fact I think it will be both. Have you read the overview of Spoon > and what imprinting is? Pavel's image will serve as a starting place > for building-up a "master" image by loading large-grained packages. > > Craig's Spoon will then allow a truly minimal image to be defined, > based on a subset of that master, by the machine. > > Right now, the only masters we have are 3.8, 3.9, 3.10 and the various > minimal images that all need more refinement. > > - Chris > > On 9/23/07, Bill Schwab <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Every so often, I get tricked by the reply going to other than the list, > > and I think this was one of them - aka, sorry if this is duplicated. > > > > I agree, but (with no offense to Craig), suspect it will be Pavel who > > enables the transformation. Either way, it will be good for Squeak, and > > interesting to watch. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. > > University of Florida > > Department of Anesthesiology > > PO Box 100254 > > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 > > > > Email: [hidden email] > > Tel: (352) 846-1285 > > FAX: (352) 392-7029 > > > > >>> [hidden email] 09/21/07 5:07 AM >>> > > +1 more... > > > > On Friday 21 September 2007 3:33 am, Chris Muller wrote: > > > +one million. > > > > > > Don't worry Geert. I believe this is the only possible outcome for > > > Squeak; by the very nature of its malleability, people are *able* to > > > reject that which is not to their taste, no matter how > > > well-intentioned the forces seeking "a ONE true, grand, ultimate > > > image" are. > > > > > > Even with billions invested by big companies like Sun and Microsoft > > > could not stop forks of their flagships. > > > > > > Squeak will ultimately embrace that which it cannot prevent. I think > > > Craig will ultimately make his technology easily consumable and we > > > will witness a significant transformation of Squeak. > > > > > > - Chris > > > > > > On 9/20/07, Geert Claes <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > Don't get me wrong, I reckon the work Gary has done with his UI > > > > Enhancements is > > > > a great start and it actually showed me the true potential of > > Squeak. > > > > > > > > Squeak should be all about choice. I reckon the Squeak image should > > be > > > > stripped > > > > down to the bare minimum with a package loader allowing the user to > > > > choose what > > > > they want in their image. It is in people's nature to resists change > > and > > > > therefore I think it's important that the user should be given the > > choice > > > > how to > > > > interact with their Squeak image - current Morphic package or some > > new, > > > > different more user friendly Morphic package. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > UI mailing list > > > > [hidden email] > > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > UI mailing list > > > [hidden email] > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui > > > > > > Pinesoft Computers are registered in England, Registered number: > > 2914825. Registered office: 266-268 High Street, Waltham Cross, Herts, > > EN8 7EA > > > > > > > > This message has been scanned for viruses by BlackSpider MailControl - > > www.blackspider.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > UI mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui > > > > _______________________________________________ > > UI mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui > > > _______________________________________________ > UI mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui > UI mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui |
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