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Re: Squeak UI/Usability Design

Jason Johnson-5
Well, I think Pavel's is the short term and Craig's the long term as
it takes a much more aggressive approach to solving some of the issues
of Smalltalking.

On 9/26/07, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:

> By saying "no offense to Craig" you seem to be saying it will be
> Pavel, NOT Craig.
>
> In fact I think it will be both.  Have you read the overview of Spoon
> and what imprinting is?  Pavel's image will serve as a starting place
> for building-up a "master" image by loading large-grained packages.
>
> Craig's Spoon will then allow a truly minimal image to be defined,
> based on a subset of that master, by the machine.
>
> Right now, the only masters we have are 3.8, 3.9, 3.10 and the various
> minimal images that all need more refinement.
>
>  - Chris
>
> On 9/23/07, Bill Schwab <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Every so often, I get tricked by the reply going to other than the list,
> > and I think this was one of them - aka, sorry if this is duplicated.
> >
> > I agree, but (with no offense to Craig), suspect it will be Pavel who
> > enables the transformation.  Either way, it will be good for Squeak, and
> > interesting to watch.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
> > University of Florida
> > Department of Anesthesiology
> > PO Box 100254
> > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
> >
> > Email: [hidden email]
> > Tel: (352) 846-1285
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> >
> > >>> [hidden email] 09/21/07 5:07 AM >>>
> > +1 more...
> >
> > On Friday 21 September 2007 3:33 am, Chris Muller wrote:
> > > +one million.
> > >
> > > Don't worry Geert.  I believe this is the only possible outcome for
> > > Squeak; by the very nature of its malleability, people are *able* to
> > > reject that which is not to their taste, no matter how
> > > well-intentioned the forces seeking "a ONE true, grand, ultimate
> > > image" are.
> > >
> > > Even with billions invested by big companies like Sun and Microsoft
> > > could not stop forks of their flagships.
> > >
> > > Squeak will ultimately embrace that which it cannot prevent.  I think
> > > Craig will ultimately make his technology easily consumable and we
> > > will witness a significant transformation of Squeak.
> > >
> > >  - Chris
> > >
> > > On 9/20/07, Geert Claes <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > Don't get me wrong, I reckon the work Gary has done with his UI
> > > > Enhancements is
> > > > a great start and it actually showed me the true potential of
> > Squeak.
> > > >
> > > > Squeak should be all about choice. I reckon the Squeak image should
> > be
> > > > stripped
> > > > down to the bare minimum with a package loader allowing the user to
> > > > choose what
> > > > they want in their image. It is in people's nature to resists change
> > and
> > > > therefore I think it's important that the user should be given the
> > choice
> > > > how to
> > > > interact with their Squeak image - current Morphic package or some
> > new,
> > > > different more user friendly Morphic package.
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