Re: Squeak-dev Digest, Vol 187, Issue 43

> The Dynabook concept is often linked to the Etoys concept and
> implementation.  I think it is important that you remind us that Etoys
> is constructivism oriented and as such is not the only learning model.
> So it actually results in the conclusion that the field of application
> of the Dynabook idea is much wider.  In the sense of  a 'Dynamic book'
> read and used on an electronic device.
>
> A question then is
>
> Do we think of a 'Dynamic note book'?
>
> A note book comes with initially blank pages and this is what the
> current Squeak/Pharo/Cuis releases represent at the moment.

> Then a last question which I think should be investigated thoroughly
> be looking also at past efforts.
>
> What makes such an endeavour successful?
>
> As a contribution towards an answer I have
>
> a) "ease of use".
>
> - This is mostly about the language and DSL used for scripting
> - And for this to happen it also means that there is a considerable
> collection of examples.
>
> b) availability of a "lesson / teaching units collection" .

>
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:16 AM Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> > On 25.07.2018, at 08:23, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > A retest with
>> >
>> >
>> http://files.squeak.org/trunk/Squeak5.2alpha-18150-32bit/Squeak5.2alpha-18150-32bit-All-in-One.zip
>> >
>> > and
>> >
>> >     Installer ensureRecentMetacello
>> >
>> > (Ubuntu 14.04 based Linux)
>> >
>> > shows that this VM update has not made it into the latest version.
>>
>> Yes, because the VM used is from April.
>>
>> Best regards
>>         -Tobisa
>>
>
> The VMs shipping with our bundles need to be updated by hand. But first, I
> need to prepare a pre-release of the OSVM...will work on this today...
>
> Fabio
>
>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --Hannes
>> >
>> > On 7/6/18, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >> I replaced in
>> >>
>> >>    /Squeak5.2alpha-18134-32bit-All-in-One.app/Contents/Linux-i686
>> >>
>> >> the content what the screen shot shows.
>> >>
>> >> Then in Squeak in a workspace I did
>> >>
>> >>    Installer ensureRecentMetacello.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Result: OK, i.e. on VM crash.
>> >>
>> >> Vielen Dank!
>> >>
>> >> --Hannes
>> >>
>> >> On 7/6/18, Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>> Hi Hannes,
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 06.07.2018, at 12:01, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi Tobias
>> >>>>
>> >>>> A quick answer! Great!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Where do I get this VM and how do I replace it in the All-In-One?
>> This
>> >>>> is what I am using for testing
>> >>>> (Linux)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://files.squeak.org/trunk/Squeak5.2alpha-18138-32bit/
>> >>>
>> >>> use the image from there and a vm from here:
>> >>>
>> >>> https://bintray.com/opensmalltalk/vm/cog/201807060950#files
>> >>> for example this:
>> >>>
>> https://bintray.com/opensmalltalk/vm/download_file?file_path=squeak.cog.spur_linux32x86_201807060950.tar.gz
>> >>> or this (64bit):
>> >>>
>> https://bintray.com/opensmalltalk/vm/download_file?file_path=squeak.cog.spur_linux64x64_201807060950.tar.gz
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards
>> >>>     -Tobias
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards
>> >>>> Hannes
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 7/6/18, Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>>>> Hi all
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Can you test with a new vm? I have a change in 97b799c
>> >>>>> (opensmalltalk-vm)
>> >>>>> that could simply fix that.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Best regards
>> >>>>>   -Tobias
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 05.07.2018, at 01:28, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Thu, 5 Jul 2018, H. Hirzel wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> You mean though I get
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> openssl version -a
>> >>>>>>> 1.0.2l
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> How would I then remove 1.0.1?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> To find out what you have installed:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> $ aptitude search libssl1 | grep ^i
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> or if you don't have aptitude installed:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> $ apt search libssl1 | grep installed
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> To remove libssl1.0.0, which you should only do if the
>> self-compiled
>> >>>>>> 1.0.2
>> >>>>>> satisfies all package dependencies and you're willing to update it
>> >>>>>> from
>> >>>>>> time to time yourself:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> $ sudo apt remove libssl1.0.0
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Levente
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 7/5/18, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> You probably still have 1.0.1 installed.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Levente
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Jul 2018, H. Hirzel wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I followed
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> https://www.miguelvallejo.com/updating-to-openssl-1-0-2g-on-ubuntu-server-12-04-14-04-lts-to-stop-cve-2016-0800-drown-attack/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> and got the ssl version (full info below)
>> >>>>>>>>> 1.0.2l
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> It still crashes.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> --Hannes
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> openssl version -a
>> >>>>>>>>> OpenSSL 1.0.2l  25 May 2017
>> >>>>>>>>> built on: reproducible build, date unspecified
>> >>>>>>>>> platform: linux-elf
>> >>>>>>>>> options:  bn(64,32) rc4(8x,mmx) des(ptr,risc1,16,long) idea(int)
>> >>>>>>>>> blowfish(idx)
>> >>>>>>>>> compiler: gcc -I. -I.. -I../include  -DOPENSSL_THREADS
>> -D_REENTRANT
>> >>>>>>>>> -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -Wa,--noexecstack -DL_ENDIAN -O3
>> >>>>>>>>> -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_PART_WORDS
>> >>>>>>>>> -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_GF2m
>> >>>>>>>>> -DRC4_ASM -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM -DSHA512_ASM -DMD5_ASM
>> >>>>>>>>> -DRMD160_ASM
>> >>>>>>>>> -DAES_ASM -DVPAES_ASM -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM -DGHASH_ASM
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 7/5/18, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes it is Linux, Ubuntu based, 14.04
>> >>>>>>>>>> and libssl has
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> $ openssl version -a
>> >>>>>>>>>> OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014
>> >>>>>>>>>> built on: Thu Mar 19 15:10:04 UTC 2015
>> >>>>>>>>>> platform: debian-i386
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> So we can consider this to be a known error and ask for a later
>> >>>>>>>>>> version
>> >>>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>>> Linux
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>> >>>>>>>>>> --Hannes
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/18, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, now I see that you use linux, though I still don't know
>> >>>>>>>>>>> which.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Actually it doesn't really matter. What matters is which
>> version
>> >>>>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>>>> libssl
>> >>>>>>>>>>> is installed on your machine.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I found that the SqueakSSL plugin crashes with libssl1.0.0 but
>> >>>>>>>>>>> works
>> >>>>>>>>>>> with 1.0.2 and 1.1.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Levente
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2018, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2018, H. Hirzel wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the feedback.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You refer to issue
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/issues/260
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The answer is: Maybe it is the same, but I use a 32bit
>> image,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you use linux? If yes, which version?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Levente
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I was using the installation script from
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/Metacello/metacello
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Squeak section.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not know that I have to go for
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Installer ensureRecentMetacello
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is actually much better from a user point of view.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But it causes a instant VM crash.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Image information is below
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --Hannes
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Image
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> /media/user/data-ext4/Smtk/4-test-images/Squeak5.2a_latest/Squeak5.2alpha-18134-32bit-All-in-One.app/Contents/Resources/Squeak5.2alpha-18134-32bit.image
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Squeak5.2alpha
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> latest update: #18134
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Current Change Set: Unnamed1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Image format 6521 (32 bit)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Virtual Machine
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> /media/user/data-ext4/Smtk/4-test-images/Squeak5.2a_latest/Squeak5.2alpha-18134-32bit-All-in-One.app/Contents/Linux-i686/lib/squeak/5.0-201804030952/squeak
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Croquet Closure Cog[Spur] VM [CoInterpreterPrimitives
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> VMMaker.oscog-eem.2361]
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unix built on Apr  3 2018 17:17:33 Compiler: 4.8.4
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> platform sources revision VM: 201804030952
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git $
>> Date:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tue
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apr
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 11:52:19 2018 +0200 $ CommitHash: 29f50cf $ Plugins:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 201804030952
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git $
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.2361 uuid:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 7ca2f89a-de70-422f-b92b-54f91ac4e47b Apr  3 2018
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.2361 uuid:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 7ca2f89a-de70-422f-b92b-54f91ac4e47b Apr  3 2018
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/18, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're probably experiencing this issue:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/issues/260
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please confirm if that's the case. In general, it helps if
>> you
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> give a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more information about the crash (VM, image, etc).
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also I suggest you use Installer ensureRecentMetacello to
>> load
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Metacello
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of that snippet, because that snippet breaks
>> WebClient
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SqueakSSL by loading an older, incompatible version of
>> them.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Levente
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2018, H. Hirzel wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The installation of Metacello causes a VM crash.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6157
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/Metacello/metacello
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Get the Metacello configuration (for Squeak users)"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Installer gemsource
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project: 'metacello';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addPackage: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Result : OK"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Bootstrap Metacello Preview, using mcz files
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (#'previewBootstrap'
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbolic version"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) project
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version: #'previewBootstrap') load.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Result : OK"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Load the Preview version of Metacello from GitHub"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Smalltalk at: #Metacello) new
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration: 'MetacelloPreview';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version: #stable;
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository: 'github://Metacello/metacello:configuration';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "CRASH"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Now load latest version of Metacello"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Smalltalk at: #Metacello) new
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> baseline: 'Metacello';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository:
>> 'github://Metacello/metacello:master/repository';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Smalltalk at: #Metacello) new
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> baseline: 'Metacello';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository:
>> 'github://Metacello/metacello:master/repository';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hannes
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>

> Hi all,
>
> I've upgraded all VMs and Travis has rebuilt all 18150 bundles:
> http://files.squeak.org/5.2alpha/Squeak5.2alpha-18150-32bit/
> http://files.squeak.org/5.2alpha/Squeak5.2alpha-18150-64bit/
>
> Newer bundles will also ship with these VMs.
>
> Happy testing,
> Fabio
>

>
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:16 AM Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> > On 25.07.2018, at 08:23, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > A retest with
>> >
>> >    http://files.squeak.org/trunk/Squeak5.2alpha-18150-32bit/
>> Squeak5.2alpha-18150-32bit-All-in-One.zip
>> >
>> > and
>> >
>> >     Installer ensureRecentMetacello
>> >
>> > (Ubuntu 14.04 based Linux)
>> >
>> > shows that this VM update has not made it into the latest version.
>>
>> Yes, because the VM used is from April.
>>
>> Best regards
>>         -Tobisa
>>
>
> The VMs shipping with our bundles need to be updated by hand. But first, I
> need to prepare a pre-release of the OSVM...will work on this today...
>

> Fabio
>
>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --Hannes
>> >
>> > On 7/6/18, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >> I replaced in
>> >>
>> >>    /Squeak5.2alpha-18134-32bit-All-in-One.app/Contents/Linux-i686
>> >>
>> >> the content what the screen shot shows.
>> >>
>> >> Then in Squeak in a workspace I did
>> >>
>> >>    Installer ensureRecentMetacello.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Result: OK, i.e. on VM crash.
>> >>
>> >> Vielen Dank!
>> >>
>> >> --Hannes
>> >>
>> >> On 7/6/18, Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>> Hi Hannes,
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 06.07.2018, at 12:01, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi Tobias
>> >>>>
>> >>>> A quick answer! Great!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Where do I get this VM and how do I replace it in the All-In-One?
>> This
>> >>>> is what I am using for testing
>> >>>> (Linux)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://files.squeak.org/trunk/Squeak5.2alpha-18138-32bit/
>> >>>
>> >>> use the image from there and a vm from here:
>> >>>
>> >>> https://bintray.com/opensmalltalk/vm/cog/201807060950#files
>> >>> for example this:
>> >>>     https://bintray.com/opensmalltalk/vm/download_
>> file?file_path=squeak.cog.spur_linux32x86_201807060950.tar.gz
>> >>> or this (64bit):
>> >>>     https://bintray.com/opensmalltalk/vm/download_
>> file?file_path=squeak.cog.spur_linux64x64_201807060950.tar.gz
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards
>> >>>     -Tobias
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards
>> >>>> Hannes
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 7/6/18, Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>>>> Hi all
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Can you test with a new vm? I have a change in 97b799c
>> >>>>> (opensmalltalk-vm)
>> >>>>> that could simply fix that.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Best regards
>> >>>>>   -Tobias
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 05.07.2018, at 01:28, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Thu, 5 Jul 2018, H. Hirzel wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> You mean though I get
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> openssl version -a
>> >>>>>>> 1.0.2l
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> How would I then remove 1.0.1?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> To find out what you have installed:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> $ aptitude search libssl1 | grep ^i
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> or if you don't have aptitude installed:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> $ apt search libssl1 | grep installed
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> To remove libssl1.0.0, which you should only do if the
>> self-compiled
>> >>>>>> 1.0.2
>> >>>>>> satisfies all package dependencies and you're willing to update it
>> >>>>>> from
>> >>>>>> time to time yourself:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> $ sudo apt remove libssl1.0.0
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Levente
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 7/5/18, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> You probably still have 1.0.1 installed.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Levente
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Jul 2018, H. Hirzel wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I followed
>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.miguelvallejo.com/updating-to-openssl-1-0-2g-on-
>> ubuntu-server-12-04-14-04-lts-to-stop-cve-2016-0800-drown-attack/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> and got the ssl version (full info below)
>> >>>>>>>>> 1.0.2l
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> It still crashes.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> --Hannes
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> openssl version -a
>> >>>>>>>>> OpenSSL 1.0.2l  25 May 2017
>> >>>>>>>>> built on: reproducible build, date unspecified
>> >>>>>>>>> platform: linux-elf
>> >>>>>>>>> options:  bn(64,32) rc4(8x,mmx) des(ptr,risc1,16,long) idea(int)
>> >>>>>>>>> blowfish(idx)
>> >>>>>>>>> compiler: gcc -I. -I.. -I../include  -DOPENSSL_THREADS
>> -D_REENTRANT
>> >>>>>>>>> -DDSO_DLFCN -DHAVE_DLFCN_H -Wa,--noexecstack -DL_ENDIAN -O3
>> >>>>>>>>> -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_PART_WORDS
>> >>>>>>>>> -DOPENSSL_IA32_SSE2 -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_MONT -DOPENSSL_BN_ASM_GF2m
>> >>>>>>>>> -DRC4_ASM -DSHA1_ASM -DSHA256_ASM -DSHA512_ASM -DMD5_ASM
>> >>>>>>>>> -DRMD160_ASM
>> >>>>>>>>> -DAES_ASM -DVPAES_ASM -DWHIRLPOOL_ASM -DGHASH_ASM
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 7/5/18, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes it is Linux, Ubuntu based, 14.04
>> >>>>>>>>>> and libssl has
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> $ openssl version -a
>> >>>>>>>>>> OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014
>> >>>>>>>>>> built on: Thu Mar 19 15:10:04 UTC 2015
>> >>>>>>>>>> platform: debian-i386
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> So we can consider this to be a known error and ask for a later
>> >>>>>>>>>> version
>> >>>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>>> Linux
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>> >>>>>>>>>> --Hannes
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/18, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, now I see that you use linux, though I still don't know
>> >>>>>>>>>>> which.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Actually it doesn't really matter. What matters is which
>> version
>> >>>>>>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>>>>>> libssl
>> >>>>>>>>>>> is installed on your machine.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I found that the SqueakSSL plugin crashes with libssl1.0.0 but
>> >>>>>>>>>>> works
>> >>>>>>>>>>> with 1.0.2 and 1.1.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Levente
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2018, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2018, H. Hirzel wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the feedback.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You refer to issue
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-
>> vm/issues/260
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The answer is: Maybe it is the same, but I use a 32bit
>> image,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you use linux? If yes, which version?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Levente
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I was using the installation script from
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/Metacello/metacello
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Squeak section.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not know that I have to go for
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Installer ensureRecentMetacello
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is actually much better from a user point of view.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But it causes a instant VM crash.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Image information is below
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --Hannes
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Image
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> /media/user/data-ext4/Smtk/4-test-images/Squeak5.2a_latest/
>> Squeak5.2alpha-18134-32bit-All-in-One.app/Contents/
>> Resources/Squeak5.2alpha-18134-32bit.image
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Squeak5.2alpha
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> latest update: #18134
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Current Change Set: Unnamed1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Image format 6521 (32 bit)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Virtual Machine
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> /media/user/data-ext4/Smtk/4-test-images/Squeak5.2a_latest/
>> Squeak5.2alpha-18134-32bit-All-in-One.app/Contents/Linux-
>> i686/lib/squeak/5.0-201804030952/squeak
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Croquet Closure Cog[Spur] VM [CoInterpreterPrimitives
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> VMMaker.oscog-eem.2361]
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unix built on Apr  3 2018 17:17:33 Compiler: 4.8.4
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> platform sources revision VM: 201804030952
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git $
>> Date:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tue
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apr
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 11:52:19 2018 +0200 $ CommitHash: 29f50cf $ Plugins:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 201804030952
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git $
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.2361 uuid:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 7ca2f89a-de70-422f-b92b-54f91ac4e47b Apr  3 2018
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.2361 uuid:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 7ca2f89a-de70-422f-b92b-54f91ac4e47b Apr  3 2018
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/4/18, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're probably experiencing this issue:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-
>> vm/issues/260
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please confirm if that's the case. In general, it helps if
>> you
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> give a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more information about the crash (VM, image, etc).
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also I suggest you use Installer ensureRecentMetacello to
>> load
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Metacello
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of that snippet, because that snippet breaks
>> WebClient
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SqueakSSL by loading an older, incompatible version of
>> them.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Levente
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Jul 2018, H. Hirzel wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The installation of Metacello causes a VM crash.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6157
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/Metacello/metacello
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Get the Metacello configuration (for Squeak users)"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Installer gemsource
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project: 'metacello';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addPackage: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Result : OK"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Bootstrap Metacello Preview, using mcz files
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (#'previewBootstrap'
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbolic version"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) project
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version: #'previewBootstrap') load.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Result : OK"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Load the Preview version of Metacello from GitHub"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Smalltalk at: #Metacello) new
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration: 'MetacelloPreview';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version: #stable;
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository: 'github://Metacello/metacello:configuration';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "CRASH"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Now load latest version of Metacello"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Smalltalk at: #Metacello) new
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> baseline: 'Metacello';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository: 'github://Metacello/metacello:
>> master/repository';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Smalltalk at: #Metacello) new
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> baseline: 'Metacello';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository: 'github://Metacello/metacello:
>> master/repository';
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hannes
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