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Herbert König

Re: Welcome to the "Beginners" mailing list

Hello,

I like the tone of the welcome message but I feel the English is not
completely correct. Some native speaker please look into this.

line 2:
brlso> Squeak is a really cool and powerful environment but Smalltalk is an
^^^
I think this should read ... and (not but) Smalltalk is an elegant and powerful
...

Not sure about the next two ones.

brlso> elegant and powerful language, however it is different than
^^^^
however it is different from (not than) traditional languages...?

brlso> traditional languages, so do not hesitate to ask questions. We will do
brlso> our best to answer them and to learn with you.
^^
omit the to?

brlso> We created this list so that any newcomers in squeak can dare to ask
brlso> all the questions they have, so enjoy it.

Cheers

Herbert mailto:[hidden email]

tblanchard

Re: Welcome to the "Beginners" mailing list

On May 1, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Herbert König wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I like the tone of the welcome message but I feel the English is not
> completely correct. Some native speaker please look into this.

Oh look - something I'm accidentally qualified to contribute. :-)

>
> line 2:
> brlso> Squeak is a really cool and powerful environment but
> Smalltalk is an
> ^^^
> I think this should read ... and (not but) Smalltalk is an elegant
> and powerful
>

That is correct. "and" is a better choice.

> ...
>
> Not sure about the next two ones.
>
> brlso> elegant and powerful language, however it is different than
> ^^^^
> however it is different from (not than) traditional languages...?

also correct. (should be from - many natives get this wrong BTW).

>
> brlso> traditional languages, so do not hesitate to ask questions.
> We will do
> brlso> our best to answer them and to learn with you.
> ^^
> omit the to?

No - "We will do our best to answer them and to learn with you" is
technically correct.

In the US, informally it might be rendered as "We will do our best to
answer them and learn with you"

Either, I believe, is acceptable.

> brlso> We created this list so that any newcomers in squeak can
> dare to ask
> brlso> all the questions they have, so enjoy it.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Herbert mailto:[hidden email]
>
>

stéphane ducasse-2

Re: Welcome to the "Beginners" mailing list

if you want the text to be changed send a complete sentence.
I do not have the time to carefully understand your points. Sorry guys.
I'm too buzy.

Stef

On 2 mai 06, at 00:45, Todd Blanchard wrote:

>
> On May 1, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Herbert König wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I like the tone of the welcome message but I feel the English is not
>> completely correct. Some native speaker please look into this.
>
> Oh look - something I'm accidentally qualified to contribute. :-)
>
>>
>> line 2:
>> brlso> Squeak is a really cool and powerful environment but
>> Smalltalk is an
>> ^^^
>> I think this should read ... and (not but) Smalltalk is an
>> elegant and powerful
>>
>
> That is correct. "and" is a better choice.
>
>> ...
>>
>> Not sure about the next two ones.
>>
>> brlso> elegant and powerful language, however it is different than
>> ^^^^
>> however it is different from (not than) traditional languages...?
>
> also correct. (should be from - many natives get this wrong BTW).
>
>>
>> brlso> traditional languages, so do not hesitate to ask questions.
>> We will do
>> brlso> our best to answer them and to learn with you.
>> ^^
>> omit the to?
>
> No - "We will do our best to answer them and to learn with you" is
> technically correct.
>
> In the US, informally it might be rendered as "We will do our best
> to answer them and learn with you"
>
> Either, I believe, is acceptable.
>
>> brlso> We created this list so that any newcomers in squeak can
>> dare to ask
>> brlso> all the questions they have, so enjoy it.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Herbert mailto:[hidden email]
>>
>>
>
>
>

Michael Haupt-3

Re: Welcome to the "Beginners" mailing list

Hi,

On 5/2/06, stéphane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
> if you want the text to be changed send a complete sentence.
> I do not have the time to carefully understand your points. Sorry guys.
> I'm too buzy.

I just happened to read this... here is a complete updated version.
BTW I've shortened the first sentence, which seemed rather long and
took some turns in between.

--cut--
Squeak is a really cool and powerful environment, and Smalltalk is an
elegant and powerful language. Still, it is different from traditional
languages, so do not hesitate to ask questions. We will do our best to
answer them and to learn with you.
--uncut--

Best,

Michael