Re: smalltalk 80 : book : adele goldberg : relevant for squeak 'mvc'?
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Re: smalltalk 80 : book : adele goldberg : relevant for squeak 'mvc'?
 
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The Smalltalk books (Goldberg, et al) were good for learning the language and getting around the Smalltalk environment but light on putting together an application with MVC. Amazon doesn't even have an entry for "Smalltalk-80: Creating a User Interface and Graphical Applications" listed shown on the back of my copy of "Smalltalk-80: The Interactive Programming Environment" suggesting that perhaps it was never published. Try "Inside Smalltalk," available FREE online, in pdf format. Index of second volume seems to have what you're looking for. Michael On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Mayuresh Kathe <[hidden email]> wrote: hello, _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
Re: smalltalk 80 : book : adele goldberg : relevant for squeak 'mvc'?
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And do not forget the archive of this mailing list. It has a LOT of
useful discussions and pointers. A compilation --- summary with links to the relevant threads would be a good asset to have on the wiki. BTW the wiki has a lot on MVC as well. Just needs to be unearthed and cleaned up a bit.... --Hannes On 9/9/14, Michael Rice <[hidden email]> wrote: > The Smalltalk books (Goldberg, et al) were good for learning the language > and getting around the Smalltalk environment but light on putting together > an application with MVC. Amazon doesn't even have an entry for > "Smalltalk-80: Creating a User Interface and Graphical Applications" listed > shown on the back of my copy of "Smalltalk-80: The Interactive Programming > Environment" suggesting that perhaps it was never published. > > Try "Inside Smalltalk," available FREE online, in pdf format. Index of > second volume seems to have what you're looking for. > > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks/InsideST/InsideSmalltalkII.pdf > > Michael > > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Mayuresh Kathe <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> hello, >> >> would the book "smalltalk 80: the language" by adele goldberg and david >> robson be still relevant with squeak using the 'mvc' environment? >> >> my first guess is "yes", but better to ask the experts, hence this email. >> :) >> >> thanks, >> >> ~mayuresh >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Beginners mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners >> > Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
Re: smalltalk 80 : book : adele goldberg : relevant for squeak 'mvc'?
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Here a few links
MVC http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1767 Last updated: 11 February 2014 Updated by: Tim Rowledge MVC: one window one button http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/131 Last updated: 14 January 2006 How to use the MVC elements (an example) http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/478 Last updated: 13 November 2007 FAQ: MVC Framework http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/777 19 February 2003 Suggestion: Check the content and find out for which Squeak version it applies and update the pages accordingly. --Hannes On 9/9/14, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: > And do not forget the archive of this mailing list. It has a LOT of > useful discussions and pointers. A compilation --- summary with links > to the relevant threads would be a good asset to have on the wiki. BTW > the wiki has a lot on MVC as well. Just needs to be unearthed and > cleaned up a bit.... > > --Hannes > > On 9/9/14, Michael Rice <[hidden email]> wrote: >> The Smalltalk books (Goldberg, et al) were good for learning the language >> and getting around the Smalltalk environment but light on putting >> together >> an application with MVC. Amazon doesn't even have an entry for >> "Smalltalk-80: Creating a User Interface and Graphical Applications" >> listed >> shown on the back of my copy of "Smalltalk-80: The Interactive >> Programming >> Environment" suggesting that perhaps it was never published. >> >> Try "Inside Smalltalk," available FREE online, in pdf format. Index of >> second volume seems to have what you're looking for. >> >> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks/InsideST/InsideSmalltalkII.pdf >> >> Michael >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Mayuresh Kathe <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >>> hello, >>> >>> would the book "smalltalk 80: the language" by adele goldberg and david >>> robson be still relevant with squeak using the 'mvc' environment? >>> >>> my first guess is "yes", but better to ask the experts, hence this >>> email. >>> :) >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> ~mayuresh >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Beginners mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners >>> >> > Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
Re: smalltalk 80 : book : adele goldberg : relevant for squeak 'mvc'?
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I must admit that I've been lurking for years because of a lack of interest in morphic. This renewed discussion of MVC has me interested again and I've downloaded a copy of 4.5. Now if only I could could find the changes I once had that made the code in "A Taste of Smalltalk" work ;) Back to lurk mode, William On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:22 AM, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: And do not forget the archive of this mailing list. It has a LOT of Live like you will never die, love like you've never been hurt, dance like no-one is watching. Alex White _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
Re: smalltalk 80 : book : adele goldberg : relevant for squeak 'mvc'?
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On 9/9/14, William Barnett-Lewis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I must admit that I've been lurking for years because of a lack of interest > in morphic. This renewed discussion of MVC has me interested again and I've > downloaded a copy of 4.5. Now if only I could could find the changes I once > had that made the code in "A Taste of Smalltalk" work ;) > > Back to lurk mode, Welcome William, and hopefully not. And I suggest that you ask questions at stackoverflow (SO) like this one http://stackoverflow.com/questions/670727/writing-a-gui-in-squeak It has a [squeak] and a [MVC] tag. At the moment SO is not really used but having a few questions there will be helpful as it is much easier to keep track of things there then on this mailing list and the documentation value is higher because of the automatic linking and navigation aids. This is just a suggestion .... using this ML is surely preferred to just lurking. --Hannes > > William > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:22 AM, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> And do not forget the archive of this mailing list. It has a LOT of >> useful discussions and pointers. A compilation --- summary with links >> to the relevant threads would be a good asset to have on the wiki. BTW >> the wiki has a lot on MVC as well. Just needs to be unearthed and >> cleaned up a bit.... >> >> --Hannes >> >> On 9/9/14, Michael Rice <[hidden email]> wrote: >> > The Smalltalk books (Goldberg, et al) were good for learning the >> > language >> > and getting around the Smalltalk environment but light on putting >> together >> > an application with MVC. Amazon doesn't even have an entry for >> > "Smalltalk-80: Creating a User Interface and Graphical Applications" >> listed >> > shown on the back of my copy of "Smalltalk-80: The Interactive >> Programming >> > Environment" suggesting that perhaps it was never published. >> > >> > Try "Inside Smalltalk," available FREE online, in pdf format. Index of >> > second volume seems to have what you're looking for. >> > >> > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks/InsideST/InsideSmalltalkII.pdf >> > >> > Michael >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Mayuresh Kathe <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> hello, >> >> >> >> would the book "smalltalk 80: the language" by adele goldberg and >> >> david >> >> robson be still relevant with squeak using the 'mvc' environment? >> >> >> >> my first guess is "yes", but better to ask the experts, hence this >> email. >> >> :) >> >> >> >> thanks, >> >> >> >> ~mayuresh >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Beginners mailing list >> >> [hidden email] >> >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Beginners mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners >> > > > > -- > Live like you will never die, love like you've never been hurt, dance > like no-one is watching. > Alex White > Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
Re: smalltalk 80 : book : adele goldberg : relevant for squeak 'mvc'?
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On 9/9/14, Mayuresh Kathe <[hidden email]> wrote:
> hannes, those are great links. many thanks for sharing them. :) You are very welcome. Sure but the effort in getting at them was as simple as using the 'search' command on the wiki and out of the 20..30 hits copy out the links which seemed to be useful. Contributions as small as this can make a difference. So if you test a code example and put a note about the version of Squeak and that youo have retested it on the wiki page then that is a great contribution for today..... And as this is a beginner's list -- any question is welcome. --Hannes > ~mayuresh > > On 2014-09-09 21:11, H. Hirzel wrote: >> Here a few links >> >> MVC >> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1767 >> Last updated: 11 February 2014 >> Updated by: Tim Rowledge >> >> >> MVC: one window one button >> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/131 >> Last updated: 14 January 2006 >> >> How to use the MVC elements (an example) >> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/478 >> Last updated: 13 November 2007 >> >> FAQ: MVC Framework >> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/777 >> 19 February 2003 >> >> Suggestion: Check the content and find out for which Squeak version it >> applies and update the pages accordingly. >> >> --Hannes >> >> On 9/9/14, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> And do not forget the archive of this mailing list. It has a LOT of >>> useful discussions and pointers. A compilation --- summary with links >>> to the relevant threads would be a good asset to have on the wiki. BTW >>> the wiki has a lot on MVC as well. Just needs to be unearthed and >>> cleaned up a bit.... >>> >>> --Hannes >>> >>> On 9/9/14, Michael Rice <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> The Smalltalk books (Goldberg, et al) were good for learning the >>>> language >>>> and getting around the Smalltalk environment but light on putting >>>> together >>>> an application with MVC. Amazon doesn't even have an entry for >>>> "Smalltalk-80: Creating a User Interface and Graphical Applications" >>>> listed >>>> shown on the back of my copy of "Smalltalk-80: The Interactive >>>> Programming >>>> Environment" suggesting that perhaps it was never published. >>>> >>>> Try "Inside Smalltalk," available FREE online, in pdf format. Index >>>> of >>>> second volume seems to have what you're looking for. >>>> >>>> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks/InsideST/InsideSmalltalkII.pdf >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Mayuresh Kathe <[hidden email]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> hello, >>>>> >>>>> would the book "smalltalk 80: the language" by adele goldberg and >>>>> david >>>>> robson be still relevant with squeak using the 'mvc' environment? >>>>> >>>>> my first guess is "yes", but better to ask the experts, hence this >>>>> email. >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> >>>>> ~mayuresh >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Beginners mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners >>>>> >>>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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