Re: [squeak-dev] The Trunk: MonticelloConfigurations-edc.60.mcz

On 21.08.2009, at 12:44, [hidden email] wrote:


I'd rather have this governed by a preference, off by default.

- Bert -

On 8/21/09 7:55 AM, "Bert Freudenberg" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'd rather have this governed by a preference, off by default.
>
> - Bert

So others could change previous things as menu, fonts, etc which cost me
time to dig and revert, but I can't add a useful feature as all knowing
what's going on?

And I send this and others to Andreas...

Anyway, I try to learn and keep my work on my own fork from now.

Edgar

On 21.08.2009, at 13:40, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote:

This is creating files on my disk unasked. I'd simply like a way to  
turn it off.

Whether it's on or off by default is debatable. If it was just showing  
the log on my screen I'd have it on by default. If it's creating files  
I'd have it off by default.

Any opinions?

> And I send this and others to Andreas...
>
> Anyway, I try to learn and keep my work on my own fork from now.


This was not my intention. Making the update process more transparent  
is a Good Thing. I didn't implement the update logging for nothing,  
you know? ;-)


- Bert -

On 8/21/09 8:50 AM, "Bert Freudenberg" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Whether it's on or off by default is debatable. If it was just showing
> the log on my screen I'd have it on by default. If it's creating files
> I'd have it off by default.

Ok, no offenses as I realize you have a point about I changing "things as
working before someone change my preferred way"

But this is exact what happen when Juan change fonts, someone change World
items, other change Flaps , etc.

In no case I have any warnings about I wish this changes.

In all cases I dig and revert to my taste.

I thinking in collect all updates.ar.nnn info and do a new History of 3.10.2
window.

Any think is valuable have info about what is going on inside Squeak ?

Edgar

P.S
For trunk were many publish his own ...
In Spanish we said "muchas manos en un plato hacen mucho garabato"

On 21.08.2009, at 15:04, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote:

The difference is that I can change the fonts without coding. But to  
disable creating the files I would have to actually change the method.

- Bert -

Edgar J. De Cleene wrote:
> Any think is valuable have info about what is going on inside Squeak ?

Most definitely. I was thinking about how to get this information out of
Squeak myself. It's great to find someone else beating me to it.

> P.S
> For trunk were many publish his own ...
> In Spanish we said "muchas manos en un plato hacen mucho garabato"

We'll have to learn how to make this work. Patience, patience, patience
;-) For example, I'm certain Bert didn't mean to imply you shouldn't
have done this change to begin with. Just that he'd like to have a way
to decide when to log to a file and when to log to the transcript.

Generally speaking, I'm all for turning on new features by default. It
ensures that people actually use them and can come up with an informed
opinion.

Cheers,
   - Andreas

On 21.08.2009, at 18:19, Andreas Raab wrote:


Not a bad idea. I concur, but still would like the option to turn it  
off. If necessary I can add it myself though :)

- Bert -