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Release Candidate VM for 5.2

Chris Muller-3
Hi folks,

Since this was buried at the end of a 20 message thread, I just wanted
to confirm and bring Fabio's link to the surface where everyone can
actually see it.   This 201807260206 is the final release canddiate I
should be testing with, yes?


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Fabio Niephaus <[hidden email]>
Date: Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] [Vm-dev] [Test][Squeak5.2a][Metacello]
Installation causes VM crash
To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
<[hidden email]>
Cc: Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion
<[hidden email]>


Ok, all new bundles now come with new VMs (201807260206) which include
Eliot's fix:

http://files.squeak.org/5.2alpha/Squeak5.2alpha-18155-64bit/
http://files.squeak.org/5.2alpha/Squeak5.2alpha-18155-32bit/

Best,
Fabio


On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hello Fabio
>
> Thank you for the effort of packaging a most recent VM.
>
> Execution of
>
>   Installer ensureRecentMetacello
>   "(Ubuntu 14.04 based Linux)"
>
> in a Workspace no longer leads to a crash.
> Screen shot of the result with details attached.
>
> --Hannes
>

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Re: Release Candidate VM for 5.2

fniephaus


On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 7:01 AM Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi folks,

Since this was buried at the end of a 20 message thread, I just wanted
to confirm and bring Fabio's link to the surface where everyone can
actually see it.   This 201807260206 is the final release canddiate I
should be testing with, yes?

Yes, those are the Squeak bundles with the latest OpenSmalltalkVMs. Please give them a go and report any problems :)

Fabio
 


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Fabio Niephaus <[hidden email]>
Date: Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] [Vm-dev] [Test][Squeak5.2a][Metacello]
Installation causes VM crash
To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
<[hidden email]>
Cc: Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion
<[hidden email]>


Ok, all new bundles now come with new VMs (201807260206) which include
Eliot's fix:

http://files.squeak.org/5.2alpha/Squeak5.2alpha-18155-64bit/
http://files.squeak.org/5.2alpha/Squeak5.2alpha-18155-32bit/

Best,
Fabio


On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hello Fabio
>
> Thank you for the effort of packaging a most recent VM.
>
> Execution of
>
>   Installer ensureRecentMetacello
>   "(Ubuntu 14.04 based Linux)"
>
> in a Workspace no longer leads to a crash.
> Screen shot of the result with details attached.
>
> --Hannes
>



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Re: Release Candidate VM for 5.2

Levente Uzonyi
In reply to this post by Chris Muller-3
On Sat, 28 Jul 2018, Chris Muller wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Since this was buried at the end of a 20 message thread, I just wanted
> to confirm and bring Fabio's link to the surface where everyone can
> actually see it.   This 201807260206 is the final release canddiate I
> should be testing with, yes?

It's clearly the latest, but not necessarily the final.

Levente

>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Fabio Niephaus <[hidden email]>
> Date: Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 4:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] [Vm-dev] [Test][Squeak5.2a][Metacello]
> Installation causes VM crash
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion
> <[hidden email]>
>
>
> Ok, all new bundles now come with new VMs (201807260206) which include
> Eliot's fix:
>
> http://files.squeak.org/5.2alpha/Squeak5.2alpha-18155-64bit/
> http://files.squeak.org/5.2alpha/Squeak5.2alpha-18155-32bit/
>
> Best,
> Fabio
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Fabio
>>
>> Thank you for the effort of packaging a most recent VM.
>>
>> Execution of
>>
>>   Installer ensureRecentMetacello
>>   "(Ubuntu 14.04 based Linux)"
>>
>> in a Workspace no longer leads to a crash.
>> Screen shot of the result with details attached.
>>
>> --Hannes
>>

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Re: Release Candidate VM for 5.2

Chris Muller-4
That's meaningless.  We've had a new "latest" every day for the last
several years with the bug(s) that were just recently fixed.

It takes effort for people to update their VM and test it.  No one can
do that every single day.

It's a given that any candidate is not "necessarily" the final, if a
major bug is found, that's why it's called a "candidate"...

I was just looking for some guidance from the VM developers in order
to try to support the release...  If this is for sure not going to be
the final, then I won't bother to upgrade all my VM's and test all my
apps.

Thanks.


On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 8:58 AM, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Jul 2018, Chris Muller wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Since this was buried at the end of a 20 message thread, I just wanted
>> to confirm and bring Fabio's link to the surface where everyone can
>> actually see it.   This 201807260206 is the final release canddiate I
>> should be testing with, yes?
>
>
> It's clearly the latest, but not necessarily the final.
>
> Levente
>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Fabio Niephaus <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 4:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] [Vm-dev] [Test][Squeak5.2a][Metacello]
>> Installation causes VM crash
>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
>> <[hidden email]>
>> Cc: Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion
>> <[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>> Ok, all new bundles now come with new VMs (201807260206) which include
>> Eliot's fix:
>>
>> http://files.squeak.org/5.2alpha/Squeak5.2alpha-18155-64bit/
>> http://files.squeak.org/5.2alpha/Squeak5.2alpha-18155-32bit/
>>
>> Best,
>> Fabio
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Fabio
>>>
>>> Thank you for the effort of packaging a most recent VM.
>>>
>>> Execution of
>>>
>>>   Installer ensureRecentMetacello
>>>   "(Ubuntu 14.04 based Linux)"
>>>
>>> in a Workspace no longer leads to a crash.
>>> Screen shot of the result with details attached.
>>>
>>> --Hannes
>>>
>

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Re: Release Candidate VM for 5.2

Chris Muller-3
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Okay, I'll give it a whirl, thanks.


On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 7:28 AM, Fabio Niephaus <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 7:01 AM Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Since this was buried at the end of a 20 message thread, I just wanted
>> to confirm and bring Fabio's link to the surface where everyone can
>> actually see it.   This 201807260206 is the final release canddiate I
>> should be testing with, yes?
>
>
> Yes, those are the Squeak bundles with the latest OpenSmalltalkVMs. Please
> give them a go and report any problems :)
>
> Fabio
>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Fabio Niephaus <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 4:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] [Vm-dev] [Test][Squeak5.2a][Metacello]
>> Installation causes VM crash
>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
>> <[hidden email]>
>> Cc: Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion
>> <[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>> Ok, all new bundles now come with new VMs (201807260206) which include
>> Eliot's fix:
>>
>> http://files.squeak.org/5.2alpha/Squeak5.2alpha-18155-64bit/
>> http://files.squeak.org/5.2alpha/Squeak5.2alpha-18155-32bit/
>>
>> Best,
>> Fabio
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello Fabio
>> >
>> > Thank you for the effort of packaging a most recent VM.
>> >
>> > Execution of
>> >
>> >   Installer ensureRecentMetacello
>> >   "(Ubuntu 14.04 based Linux)"
>> >
>> > in a Workspace no longer leads to a crash.
>> > Screen shot of the result with details attached.
>> >
>> > --Hannes
>> >
>>
>
>
>

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Re: Release Candidate VM for 5.2

Eliot Miranda-2
In reply to this post by Chris Muller-4
Hi Chris,

On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:
That's meaningless.  We've had a new "latest" every day for the last
several years with the bug(s) that were just recently fixed.

It takes effort for people to update their VM and test it.  No one can
do that every single day.

It's a given that any candidate is not "necessarily" the final, if a
major bug is found, that's why it's called a "candidate"...

I was just looking for some guidance from the VM developers in order
to try to support the release...  If this is for sure not going to be
the final, then I won't bother to upgrade all my VM's and test all my
apps.

While I can't say that it will be the final I think the chances are very good.  I wouldn't have suggested changing to this VM had it not been that the bug I uncovered, which has a low probability of biting, is a serious one, with the potential for computing incorrect results, hard crashes that are very difficult to diagnose from the crash log, etc.  So could I ask, given that I have no desire to propose another version as the release candidate that you do update and test?  We do have to test eventually and the one we have now is our best bet.
 

Thanks.


On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 8:58 AM, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2018, Chris Muller wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Since this was buried at the end of a 20 message thread, I just wanted
>> to confirm and bring Fabio's link to the surface where everyone can
>> actually see it.   This 201807260206 is the final release canddiate I
>> should be testing with, yes?
>
>
> It's clearly the latest, but not necessarily the final.
>
> Levente
>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Fabio Niephaus <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 4:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] [Vm-dev] [Test][Squeak5.2a][Metacello]
>> Installation causes VM crash
>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
>> <[hidden email]>
>> Cc: Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion
>> <[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>> Ok, all new bundles now come with new VMs (201807260206) which include
>> Eliot's fix:
>>
>> http://files.squeak.org/5.2alpha/Squeak5.2alpha-18155-64bit/
>> http://files.squeak.org/5.2alpha/Squeak5.2alpha-18155-32bit/
>>
>> Best,
>> Fabio
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Fabio
>>>
>>> Thank you for the effort of packaging a most recent VM.
>>>
>>> Execution of
>>>
>>>   Installer ensureRecentMetacello
>>>   "(Ubuntu 14.04 based Linux)"
>>>
>>> in a Workspace no longer leads to a crash.
>>> Screen shot of the result with details attached.
>>>
>>> --Hannes
>>>
>




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best, Eliot