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Sean P. DeNigris

Roassal Easel - Red X of Death

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In freshly downloaded Moose latest, opening the Roassal Easel from the world menu -> MNU StrikeFont>>#glyphRendererOn:. Known bug?

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Sean

Sean P. DeNigris

Re: Roassal Easel - Red X of Death

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Sean P. DeNigris wrote

In freshly downloaded Moose latest... Known bug?

Also RTCharterBuilder examples are broken. Most need #numberOfLinesOfCode -> #linesOfCode. I wasn't sure how to fix #exampleHistogram.

Cheers,
Sean

Sean P. DeNigris

Re: Roassal Easel - Red X of Death

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Sean P. DeNigris wrote

Most need #numberOfLinesOfCode -> #linesOfCode

This transformation seems to be needed in many of the examples throughout Roassal & PBE2.

Also, in Roassal 3D:
- Up arrow in R3RoassalExample>>#exampleSphereLayout ->MessageNotUnderstood: KeyboardEvent>>direction
- R3RoassalExample examples (seemingly especially the "nice colors" ones) intermittently crash the VM with "line 11: 58266 Abort trap: 6" to the console (Mac 10.9.3)

Cheers,
Sean

Tudor Girba-2

Re: Roassal Easel - Red X of Death

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Hi,

My guess is that you took a Pharo image and then loaded Moose in it without installing the Moose settings. Correct?

In that case, it is correct that it is a known bug. The issue is that Pharo comes with StrikeFonts installed, and Roassal needs FreeTypeFont. That is one of the reasons we use:

GTImageSetupCommandLineHandler new activateWithoutSaving.

Cheers,

Doru

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In freshly downloaded Moose latest, opening the Roassal Easel from the world
menu -> MNU StrikeFont>>#glyphRendererOn:. Known bug?

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Tudor Girba-2 wrote

My guess is that you took a Pharo image and then loaded Moose in it without
installing the Moose settings. Correct?

No I downloaded from http://bit.ly/lastMoose . Maybe a conflict with my startup scripts...

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Sean

Tudor Girba-2

Re: Roassal Easel - Red X of Death

It must be some conflict, because I cannot reproduce it given that we are installing the free type fonts. Could you check?

Doru

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Tudor Girba-2 wrote

> My guess is that you took a Pharo image and then loaded Moose in it
> without
> installing the Moose settings. Correct?

No I downloaded from http://bit.ly/lastMoose . Maybe a conflict with my
startup scripts...

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Tudor Girba-2 wrote

It must be some conflict, because I cannot reproduce it given that we are
installing the free type fonts. Could you check?

Use Free type is checked in the settings

Cheers,
Sean

Tudor Girba-2

Re: Roassal Easel - Red X of Death

That is not the thing. That setting only says that you can use FT fonts. You need to check the actual font that is being used.

Doru

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Tudor Girba-2 wrote

> It must be some conflict, because I cannot reproduce it given that we are
> installing the free type fonts. Could you check?

Use Free type is checked in the settings

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Ben Coman

Re: Roassal Easel - Red X of Death

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Tudor Girba wrote:

Hi,

My guess is that you took a Pharo image and then loaded Moose in it without installing the Moose settings. Correct?

In that case, it is correct that it is a known bug. The issue is that Pharo comes with StrikeFonts installed, and Roassal needs FreeTypeFont. That is one of the reasons we use:

GTImageSetupCommandLineHandler new activateWithoutSaving.

Cheers,

Doru

Maybe a class initialize method that would load from the Configuration Browser item Roasal could display a dialog asking the user if they want to make the required Preference changes. It would be really good for Roassal to load cleanly into a base Pharo image. The other day I wanted to chase down some strong pointers and thought Roassal would be great for this, but it didn't work out of the box and so I resorted to rolling my own hack for this in Morphic. Now I would normally just sue Moose to use Roassal, except it was stuff in an existing image I wanted to graph.
cheers -ben

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In freshly downloaded Moose latest, opening the Roassal Easel from the world
menu -> MNU StrikeFont>>#glyphRendererOn:. Known bug?

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Ben Coman wrote

Now I would normally just /sue/ Moose to use Roassal

From the MIT license:
IN NO EVENT SHALL THE
AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER
LIABILITY

;-p

Cheers,
Sean

Ben Coman

Re: Roassal Easel - Red X of Death

Sean P. DeNigris wrote:

Ben Coman wrote

Now I would normally just /sue/ Moose to use Roassal


>From the MIT license:
IN NO EVENT SHALL THE
AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER
LIABILITY

;-p

No no. You got it all wrong. I have this friend Sue that is pretty tough and...

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jfabry

Re: Roassal Easel - Red X of Death

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+1 on this.

On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Maybe a class initialize method that would load from the Configuration Browser item Roasal could display a dialog asking the user if they want to make the required Preference changes. It would be really good for Roassal to load cleanly into a base Pharo image.

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Tudor Girba-2 wrote

You need to check the actual font that is being used.

I later found the same answer at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24230020/how-to-fix-strikefont-doesnotunderstand-glyphrendereron-when-rendering-text-i

Stupid question: how can I tell from the font list which ones are FT so I can test this for you?

Cheers,
Sean

Nicolai Hess

Re: Roassal Easel - Red X of Death

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Pharo4 includes now an AthensStrikeFontRenderer, so if no FreeType font is loaded, you don't get this red x of death anymore.

2014-08-20 17:01 GMT+02:00 Johan Fabry <[hidden email]>:

+1 on this.

On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Maybe a class initialize method that would load from the Configuration Browser item Roasal could display a dialog asking the user if they want to make the required Preference changes. It would be really good for Roassal to load cleanly into a base Pharo image.

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Tudor Girba-2

Re: Roassal Easel - Red X of Death

That is great to hear.

@Sean: Just print out the result of:

StandardFonts defaultFont

Or look in the Settings/Appearange/Standard Fonts

If you see DejaVu in there, you are likely using a Bitmap font.

Doru

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Nicolai Hess <[hidden email]> wrote:

Pharo4 includes now an AthensStrikeFontRenderer, so if no FreeType font is loaded, you don't get this red x of death anymore.

2014-08-20 17:01 GMT+02:00 Johan Fabry <[hidden email]>:

+1 on this.

On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Maybe a class initialize method that would load from the Configuration Browser item Roasal could display a dialog asking the user if they want to make the required Preference changes. It would be really good for Roassal to load cleanly into a base Pharo image.

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Re: Roassal Easel - Red X of Death

Tudor Girba wrote:

> That is great to hear.
>
> @Sean: Just print out the result of:
> StandardFonts defaultFont
>
> Or look in the Settings/Appearange/Standard Fonts
>
> If you see DejaVu in there, you are likely using a Bitmap font.
>
> Doru
>
>

Ahhh. I had seen DejaVu and assumed it was Truetype. How is a TrueType
DejaVu font distinguished? Could it be possible to name strikefonts
DejaVu-StrikeFont?
cheers -ben
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