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SVN repository problems?

timrowledge
I've been trying to do a checkout to start getting things on the RaspberryPi archived and all I get is the infamous (and described in about six million different ways in error reports all across the web) '200 OK' error. My current copies of the RISC OS sources are so old they still have the HP server urls in there!

The svn app I'm using is quite happy with a couple of other repositories, so I guess there might be some problem related to rebooting the servers earlier today? A 200 error (even though it declares itself with 'OK", nice error reporting there, whoever wrote that part!) appears to have something to do with the Apache setup of the relevant site but honestly, if you google 'svn options of 200 ok checkout' you'll find the problem mentioned a gazillion times and eleventy times as many supposed explanations. Not too helpful.

Can anyone else do a `svn co http://squeakvm.org//svn/squeak/trunk platforms` ?

tim
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Re: SVN repository problems?

Frank Shearar-3
On 29 December 2012 03:16, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I've been trying to do a checkout to start getting things on the RaspberryPi archived and all I get is the infamous (and described in about six million different ways in error reports all across the web) '200 OK' error. My current copies of the RISC OS sources are so old they still have the HP server urls in there!
>
> The svn app I'm using is quite happy with a couple of other repositories, so I guess there might be some problem related to rebooting the servers earlier today? A 200 error (even though it declares itself with 'OK", nice error reporting there, whoever wrote that part!) appears to have something to do with the Apache setup of the relevant site but honestly, if you google 'svn options of 200 ok checkout' you'll find the problem mentioned a gazillion times and eleventy times as many supposed explanations. Not too helpful.
>
> Can anyone else do a `svn co http://squeakvm.org//svn/squeak/trunk platforms` ?

I could, once I installed subversion ;).

> tim
> --
> tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
> Is reading in the bathroom considered Multi-Tasking?
>
>
>

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Re: SVN repository problems?

Hannes Hirzel
I did
    sudo apt-get install subversion
on my 12.04 Ubuntu

Then
    `svn co http://squeakvm.org//svn/squeak/trunk platforms` ?

It hangs...

On 12/29/12, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 29 December 2012 03:16, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I've been trying to do a checkout to start getting things on the
>> RaspberryPi archived and all I get is the infamous (and described in about
>> six million different ways in error reports all across the web) '200 OK'
>> error. My current copies of the RISC OS sources are so old they still have
>> the HP server urls in there!
>>
>> The svn app I'm using is quite happy with a couple of other repositories,
>> so I guess there might be some problem related to rebooting the servers
>> earlier today? A 200 error (even though it declares itself with 'OK", nice
>> error reporting there, whoever wrote that part!) appears to have something
>> to do with the Apache setup of the relevant site but honestly, if you
>> google 'svn options of 200 ok checkout' you'll find the problem mentioned
>> a gazillion times and eleventy times as many supposed explanations. Not
>> too helpful.
>>
>> Can anyone else do a `svn co http://squeakvm.org//svn/squeak/trunk
>> platforms` ?
>
> I could, once I installed subversion ;).
>
>> tim
>> --
>> tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
>> Is reading in the bathroom considered Multi-Tasking?
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: SVN repository problems?

Hannes Hirzel
It gives as answer
    A: command not found

On 12/29/12, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I did
>     sudo apt-get install subversion
> on my 12.04 Ubuntu
>
> Then
>     `svn co http://squeakvm.org//svn/squeak/trunk platforms` ?
>
> It hangs...
>
> On 12/29/12, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> On 29 December 2012 03:16, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> I've been trying to do a checkout to start getting things on the
>>> RaspberryPi archived and all I get is the infamous (and described in
>>> about
>>> six million different ways in error reports all across the web) '200 OK'
>>> error. My current copies of the RISC OS sources are so old they still
>>> have
>>> the HP server urls in there!
>>>
>>> The svn app I'm using is quite happy with a couple of other
>>> repositories,
>>> so I guess there might be some problem related to rebooting the servers
>>> earlier today? A 200 error (even though it declares itself with 'OK",
>>> nice
>>> error reporting there, whoever wrote that part!) appears to have
>>> something
>>> to do with the Apache setup of the relevant site but honestly, if you
>>> google 'svn options of 200 ok checkout' you'll find the problem
>>> mentioned
>>> a gazillion times and eleventy times as many supposed explanations. Not
>>> too helpful.
>>>
>>> Can anyone else do a `svn co http://squeakvm.org//svn/squeak/trunk
>>> platforms` ?
>>
>> I could, once I installed subversion ;).
>>
>>> tim
>>> --
>>> tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
>>> Is reading in the bathroom considered Multi-Tasking?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: SVN repository problems?

Hannes Hirzel
And actually
  2263 items totaling 76.5MB
are downloaded.

On 12/29/12, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It gives as answer
>     A: command not found
>
> On 12/29/12, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I did
>>     sudo apt-get install subversion
>> on my 12.04 Ubuntu
>>
>> Then
>>     `svn co http://squeakvm.org//svn/squeak/trunk platforms` ?
>>
>> It hangs...
>>
>> On 12/29/12, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> On 29 December 2012 03:16, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> I've been trying to do a checkout to start getting things on the
>>>> RaspberryPi archived and all I get is the infamous (and described in
>>>> about
>>>> six million different ways in error reports all across the web) '200
>>>> OK'
>>>> error. My current copies of the RISC OS sources are so old they still
>>>> have
>>>> the HP server urls in there!
>>>>
>>>> The svn app I'm using is quite happy with a couple of other
>>>> repositories,
>>>> so I guess there might be some problem related to rebooting the servers
>>>> earlier today? A 200 error (even though it declares itself with 'OK",
>>>> nice
>>>> error reporting there, whoever wrote that part!) appears to have
>>>> something
>>>> to do with the Apache setup of the relevant site but honestly, if you
>>>> google 'svn options of 200 ok checkout' you'll find the problem
>>>> mentioned
>>>> a gazillion times and eleventy times as many supposed explanations. Not
>>>> too helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone else do a `svn co http://squeakvm.org//svn/squeak/trunk
>>>> platforms` ?
>>>
>>> I could, once I installed subversion ;).
>>>
>>>> tim
>>>> --
>>>> tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
>>>> Is reading in the bathroom considered Multi-Tasking?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Re: SVN repository problems?

Colin Putney-3
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On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:16 PM, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Can anyone else do a `svn co http://squeakvm.org//svn/squeak/trunk platforms` ?

Works for me.

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Re: SVN repository problems?

David T. Lewis
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:46:51AM -0500, Colin Putney wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:16 PM, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Can anyone else do a `svn co http://squeakvm.org//svn/squeak/trunk platforms` ?
>
> Works for me.

It works for me too. But I think I recall seeing a problem like this
once before, and I think it was because I was using an old version of
the SVN client that was having trouble talking to the server.

Dave


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timrowledge
OK, so it looks like it mostly works, with some small issues along the way for Hannes. Sigh, that means there is something annoying in the path between my RISC OS shell and the server.

What amazed and horrified me was finding that so many people have had this error occur and yet the apparent explanations for the problem seem never to be the same twice; that makes solving so much more difficult. Imagine if the VM randomly inserted an instruction every now and then.

Well thanks for testing for me. Let's see what I can find out today...

tim
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All programmers are poor playwrights and all computers are lousy actors.



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Hannes Hirzel
Are you doing
   `svn co http://squeakvm.org//svn/squeak/trunk platforms`
on the R Pi?

Maybe it is just slow (time out which is not indicated...) and it is
better to do it on another machine?

--Hannes

On 12/29/12, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:

> OK, so it looks like it mostly works, with some small issues along the way
> for Hannes. Sigh, that means there is something annoying in the path between
> my RISC OS shell and the server.
>
> What amazed and horrified me was finding that so many people have had this
> error occur and yet the apparent explanations for the problem seem never to
> be the same twice; that makes solving so much more difficult. Imagine if the
> VM randomly inserted an instruction every now and then.
>
> Well thanks for testing for me. Let's see what I can find out today...
>
> tim
> --
> tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
> All programmers are poor playwrights and all computers are lousy actors.
>
>
>
>

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Re: SVN repository problems?

timrowledge

On 29-12-2012, at 10:57 AM, "H. Hirzel" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Are you doing
>   `svn co http://squeakvm.org//svn/squeak/trunk platforms`
> on the R Pi?
>
> Maybe it is just slow (time out which is not indicated...) and it is
> better to do it on another machine?

I am indeed running it on the PI. I doubt a timeout is the problem simply because the response is instant and also because fetching a large source tree from another repository works perfectly. I wish I had a tool that showed all the net traffic to see if I have a badly setup connection on the pi or maybe my router. It is odd that it works ok for `svn co http://ro-oslib.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ro-oslib/trunk/!OSLib oslib` though.


tim
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Unix love: unzip; strip; touch; finger; mount; fsck; more; yes; umount; sleep


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Hannes Hirzel
You did not tell us yet if
   `svn co http://squeakvm.org//svn/squeak/trunk platforms`

works on another local machine behind your router....

--HJH

On 12/29/12, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On 29-12-2012, at 10:57 AM, "H. Hirzel" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Are you doing
>>   `svn co http://squeakvm.org//svn/squeak/trunk platforms`
>> on the R Pi?
>>
>> Maybe it is just slow (time out which is not indicated...) and it is
>> better to do it on another machine?
>
> I am indeed running it on the PI. I doubt a timeout is the problem simply
> because the response is instant and also because fetching a large source
> tree from another repository works perfectly. I wish I had a tool that
> showed all the net traffic to see if I have a badly setup connection on the
> pi or maybe my router. It is odd that it works ok for `svn co
> http://ro-oslib.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ro-oslib/trunk/!OSLib oslib`
> though.
>
>
> tim
> --
> tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
> Unix love: unzip; strip; touch; finger; mount; fsck; more; yes; umount;
> sleep
>
>
>

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timrowledge

On 29-12-2012, at 11:30 AM, "H. Hirzel" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> You did not tell us yet if
>   `svn co http://squeakvm.org//svn/squeak/trunk platforms`
>
> works on another local machine behind your router….

Good point; after a minor hassle with my iMac (the svn setup that has been in OS X by default for a long time is no longer in Mountain Lion; you have to go to Downloads for Apple Developers - https://developer.apple.com/downloads/index.action) I could try it and all worked ok. So now I have a mystery whereby the iMac can get squeak sources, the pi cannot, but can get other sources. What fun computers are :-)

tim
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timrowledge

On 29-12-2012, at 12:33 PM, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
> . So now I have a mystery whereby the iMac can get squeak sources, the pi cannot, but can get other sources. What fun computers are :-)


Mystery solved.

One of the problems afflicting us when moving information from one place to another and there is no direct route to do that  -ie when between-machine networking is not yet functioning - is that we have to manually transcribe cryptic phrases. So I had http://squeakvm.org/squeak/trunk as the path to the SVN tree. It should have been http://squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/trunk. Sigh.

Of course, once one has wrongly transcribed the information that's it - you'll never spot the mistake until you've made a fool of yourself or, occasionally, killed someone.

tim
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I'm so skeptical that I'm not sure I'm really a skeptic



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David T. Lewis
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 07:12:47PM -0800, tim Rowledge wrote:

>
> On 29-12-2012, at 12:33 PM, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > . So now I have a mystery whereby the iMac can get squeak sources, the pi cannot, but can get other sources. What fun computers are :-)
>
>
> Mystery solved.
>
> One of the problems afflicting us when moving information from one place to another and there is no direct route to do that  -ie when between-machine networking is not yet functioning - is that we have to manually transcribe cryptic phrases. So I had http://squeakvm.org/squeak/trunk as the path to the SVN tree. It should have been http://squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/trunk. Sigh.
>
> Of course, once one has wrongly transcribed the information that's it - you'll never spot the mistake until you've made a fool of yourself or, occasionally, killed someone.

That was just practice to get you warmed up for the real annoyances yet to come.

Dave


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timrowledge

On 29-12-2012, at 7:53 PM, "David T. Lewis" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> That was just practice to get you warmed up for the real annoyances yet to come.

But of course; the first one being that I appear not to have a suitable uid/pwd on the svn server right now. Who can help fix that?


tim
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David T. Lewis
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 08:07:47PM -0800, tim Rowledge wrote:
>
> On 29-12-2012, at 7:53 PM, "David T. Lewis" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > That was just practice to get you warmed up for the real annoyances yet to come.
>
> But of course; the first one being that I appear not to have a suitable uid/pwd on the svn server right now. Who can help fix that?
>

Hmmm ... in the Subversion repository, user rowledge has ownership of the
squeak:/trunk/platforms/RiscOS source tree. However, rowledge does not have
an account on the squeakvm.org machine, so I suspect that your login account
got lost somewhere along the way and needs to be reconstituted.

Ian Piumarta ([hidden email]) manages the squeakvm.org server on
behalf of the Squeak and VM development communities. Try sending an email
to Ian and ask that your account be reactivated so that work can proceed
on the Risc OS Raspberry Pi front :)

Dave