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Re: Seaside Examples?

Yar Hwee Boon-3

On 13-Jan-06, at AM 04:22, Lukas Renggli wrote:

>>> Ok.. sorry I wasn't clear. Are there any example websites that use
>>> Seaside? ... other than seaside.st, of course.
>
> *pfff* don't tell anybody: seaside.st is not a Seaside application, it
> is SmallWiki 1 on Squeak, hope to migrate to Pier sometime ... ;-)
>
> This is really a FAQ, shouldn't we collect the links somewhere on
> www.seaside.st?

I can't speak for http://seaside.st, but there is an entry at
http://motionobj.com/seasidefaq/ApplicationsBuiltWithSeaside which I
can update this with. I've been lax on maintaining the FAQ recently and
have recently changed web host breaking the edit functionality. I'll be
install TextPattern or some alternative these few days and port the
entries over along with giving anyone interested write access.

> http://www.dabbledb.com
> http://www.squeaksource.com
> http://www.prolife.ch/offerte

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Re: Seaside Examples?

Lukas Renggli
> >>> Ok.. sorry I wasn't clear. Are there any example websites that use
> >>> Seaside? ... other than seaside.st, of course.
> >
> > *pfff* don't tell anybody: seaside.st is not a Seaside application, it
> > is SmallWiki 1 on Squeak, hope to migrate to Pier sometime ... ;-)
> >
> > This is really a FAQ, shouldn't we collect the links somewhere on
> > www.seaside.st?
>
> I can't speak for http://seaside.st, but there is an entry at
> http://motionobj.com/seasidefaq/ApplicationsBuiltWithSeaside which I
> can update this with. I've been lax on maintaining the FAQ recently and
> have recently changed web host breaking the edit functionality. I'll be
> install TextPattern or some alternative these few days and port the
> entries over along with giving anyone interested write access.

I didn't know that URL. Wouldn't it be better to have it on
www.seaside.st, with all the other related stuff? This is a wiki as
well ;-)

Lukas

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Re: Seaside Examples?

Yar Hwee Boon-3

On 13-Jan-06, at PM 08:15, Lukas Renggli wrote:

>>>>> Ok.. sorry I wasn't clear. Are there any example websites that use
>>>>> Seaside? ... other than seaside.st, of course.
>>>
>>> *pfff* don't tell anybody: seaside.st is not a Seaside application,
>>> it
>>> is SmallWiki 1 on Squeak, hope to migrate to Pier sometime ... ;-)
>>>
>>> This is really a FAQ, shouldn't we collect the links somewhere on
>>> www.seaside.st?
>>
>> I can't speak for http://seaside.st, but there is an entry at
>> http://motionobj.com/seasidefaq/ApplicationsBuiltWithSeaside which I
>> can update this with. I've been lax on maintaining the FAQ recently
>> and
>> have recently changed web host breaking the edit functionality. I'll
>> be
>> install TextPattern or some alternative these few days and port the
>> entries over along with giving anyone interested write access.
>
> I didn't know that URL. Wouldn't it be better to have it on
> www.seaside.st, with all the other related stuff? This is a wiki as
> well ;-)

IIRC the main reason was I started the site slightly earlier than
seaside.st. I asked Avi when seaside.st first came online and he said
we could merge the FAQ into seaside.st somehow, I was just lazy to do
it since we are both ok with the current status.  I don't mind either
way :) Any suggestion?

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Re: Seaside/Ruby on Rails/.Net/etc. (was Re: Seaside Examples?)

stéphane ducasse-2
In reply to this post by Blake-5
I'm interested in the seaside paper.


On 13 janv. 06, at 12:05, Blake wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 01:36:09 -0800, Avi Bryant  
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> [lotsa good stuff]
>
> Thanks for the feedback, Avi. Very helpful.
>
>> BTW, it's very cool that you're writing this article - are you  
>> going to post it to the Seaside list for feedback before sending  
>> it off?
>
> If people are interested I will. Or perhaps better, I'd e-mail it  
> to interested parties. It wouldn't do to have the article be  
> "published" on the mailing list first.
>
> I expect to be doing articles on E-Toys and traits as well later  
> this year.

I can review the traits paper if you want.


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Re: Seaside/Ruby on Rails/.Net/etc. (was Re: Seaside Examples?)

Blake-5
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:05:30 -0800, stéphane ducasse  
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'm interested in the seaside paper.

OK, noted.

> I can review the traits paper if you want.

That'd be great. "Paper" sounds so formal, though.<s>

And I'd like to use Squeak on that one, depending on how things work out  
with the timing. If the Squeak implementation isn't quite ready yet, which  
language would you recommend?


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Re: Seaside/Ruby on Rails/.Net/etc. (was Re: Seaside Examples?)

stéphane ducasse-2
>> I'm interested in the seaside paper.
>
> OK, noted.
>
>> I can review the traits paper if you want.
>
> That'd be great. "Paper" sounds so formal, though.<s>
>
> And I'd like to use Squeak on that one, depending on how things  
> work out with the timing. If the Squeak implementation isn't quite  
> ready yet, which language would you recommend?

It will. Since it is already and we would like to go soon in beta to  
get feedback for all kinds of things that
are not traits related but important too.

Stef

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Re: Seaside/Ruby on Rails/.Net/etc. (was Re: Seaside Examples?)

Jason Rogers-4
In reply to this post by Blake-5
Blake,

I have been toying with writing a Seaside article for Linux Magazine
and Doctor Dobb's Journal.  Are you interested in doing a joint
venture or sharing notes?

On 1/13/06, Blake <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 01:36:09 -0800, Avi Bryant <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> [lotsa good stuff]
>
> Thanks for the feedback, Avi. Very helpful.
>
> > BTW, it's very cool that you're writing this article - are you going to
> > post it to the Seaside list for feedback before sending it off?
>
> If people are interested I will. Or perhaps better, I'd e-mail it to
> interested parties. It wouldn't do to have the article be "published" on
> the mailing list first.
>
> I expect to be doing articles on E-Toys and traits as well later this year.
>
>


--
Jason Rogers

"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I,
but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in
the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved
me, and gave himself for me."
    Galatians 2:20

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Re: Seaside/Ruby on Rails/.Net/etc. (was Re: Seaside Examples?)

Blake-5
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:34:19 -0800, Jason Rogers <[hidden email]>  
wrote:

> Blake,
>
> I have been toying with writing a Seaside article for Linux Magazine
> and Doctor Dobb's Journal.  Are you interested in doing a joint
> venture or sharing notes?

Sure. I was thinking of doing an implementation of "Super Star Trek" in  
Seaside. Maybe multi-player. But that's not hard-and-fast.

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Re: Seaside/Ruby on Rails/.Net/etc. (was Re: Seaside Examples?)

Jason Rogers-4
On 1/17/06, Blake <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:34:19 -0800, Jason Rogers <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Blake,
> >
> > I have been toying with writing a Seaside article for Linux Magazine
> > and Doctor Dobb's Journal.  Are you interested in doing a joint
> > venture or sharing notes?
>
> Sure. I was thinking of doing an implementation of "Super Star Trek" in
> Seaside. Maybe multi-player. But that's not hard-and-fast.

I was thinking a more general, introductory article.

--
Jason Rogers

"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I,
but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in
the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved
me, and gave himself for me."
    Galatians 2:20

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Re: Seaside/Ruby on Rails/.Net/etc. (was Re: Seaside Examples?)

Blake-5
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:51:06 -0800, Jason Rogers <[hidden email]>  
wrote:

> On 1/17/06, Blake <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:34:19 -0800, Jason Rogers <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Blake,
>> >
>> > I have been toying with writing a Seaside article for Linux Magazine
>> > and Doctor Dobb's Journal.  Are you interested in doing a joint
>> > venture or sharing notes?
>>
>> Sure. I was thinking of doing an implementation of "Super Star Trek" in
>> Seaside. Maybe multi-player. But that's not hard-and-fast.
>
> I was thinking a more general, introductory article.

Mmmm. I actually meant mine to be general and introductory.<s> Just with a  
bit more depth than the other general-and-introductory articles that are  
out there already. I don't have a space limit either, writing for a  
webzine.

But what did you have in mind?

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Re: Seaside/Ruby on Rails/.Net/etc. (was Re: Seaside Examples?)

Jason Rogers-4
I had in mind a teaser focused more on web technologies, specifically
Seaside on KomHttpServer and Swazoo.

On 1/17/06, Blake <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:51:06 -0800, Jason Rogers <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > On 1/17/06, Blake <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:34:19 -0800, Jason Rogers <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Blake,
> >> >
> >> > I have been toying with writing a Seaside article for Linux Magazine
> >> > and Doctor Dobb's Journal.  Are you interested in doing a joint
> >> > venture or sharing notes?
> >>
> >> Sure. I was thinking of doing an implementation of "Super Star Trek" in
> >> Seaside. Maybe multi-player. But that's not hard-and-fast.
> >
> > I was thinking a more general, introductory article.
>
> Mmmm. I actually meant mine to be general and introductory.<s> Just with a
> bit more depth than the other general-and-introductory articles that are
> out there already. I don't have a space limit either, writing for a
> webzine.
>
> But what did you have in mind?
>
>


--
Jason Rogers

"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I,
but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in
the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved
me, and gave himself for me."
    Galatians 2:20

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Re: Seaside/Ruby on Rails/.Net/etc. (was Re: Seaside Examples?)

Blake-5
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:07:40 -0800, Jason Rogers <[hidden email]>  
wrote:

> I had in mind a teaser focused more on web technologies, specifically
> Seaside on KomHttpServer and Swazoo.

Ah. Different beast then. I'm trying to get more into actual source code.  
The directive from my editor is that code is what attracts programmers.  
(Not a surprise really....)

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