Setting Up a Server to Handle Squeak Projects

> >
> > <embed
> >     type="application/x-squeak-source"
>        imageName="MySqueak.image"
> >     ALIGN="CENTER"
> >     WIDTH="1024"
> >     HEIGHT="768"
> >     pluginspage="http://www.squeakland.org/detect.html"
> >     update_url="http://www.squeakland.org/update/"
> >     ></embed>
> > </OBJECT>

> Dan,
>
> A few notes below:
>
> On 2006 May 28 02:32, Dan Shafer wrote:
>> OK, I downloaded the Squeak plug-in and I seem to be able to
>> access .pr files stored on other sites. But how do I deploy a Squeak
>> project as a plugin? I think the questions I need answered are:
>>
>> 1.  What does the server (Apache) need to know in order to serve
>> Squeak projects as files? Anything?
>
> I am using Kom as Http server (not Apache), and this is the piece  
> of HTML that
> works - I guess it piggibacks the .pr file through squeakland. The  
> only
> important thing is the href:
>
> <a
> href="http://www.squeakland.org/project.jsp?http://squeakers.ca: 
> 9090/squeak/games/FishTank-link.pr"><img
>  alt="&quot;Squeak&quot;saver" title="Make your own  
> &quot;Squeak&quot;saver"
>  src="squeak/games/FishTank-link.gif"
>  style="border: 5px solid ; width: 250px; height: 175px;"></a>
>
> I suspect it will work on Apache as well, but do not know for sure.
>
> Perhaps you can start with this, just t test your project works  
> etc, and take
> it from there, ask questions , plus more info about the HTTP plugin:
>
> http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~bert/squeak/plugin/test/ 
> plugintest.html
> http://www.squeakland.org/plugin/launch.html
> http://squeakland.org/pipermail/squeakland/2004-October/002230.html
>
> and this message from Diego I saved:
> ------------------
> And also:
>
> failureURL="http://
> www.whereYouCanFindAnInstallerForTheMissingImage.com"
>
>>> <OBJECT
>>>     ID="SqueakOCX Control"
>>        imageName="MySqueak.image"
>>>     WIDTH=1024 HEIGHT=768
>>>     ALIGN=center BORDER=2
>>>     CLASSID="CLSID:2BE9C39E-8386-4435-B337-FCDAD8EAB006"
>>>
> CODEBASE="http://www.squeakland.org/installers/ 
> SqueakPluginInstaller.exe">
>>>
>>> <embed
>>>     type="application/x-squeak-source"
>>        imageName="MySqueak.image"
>>>     ALIGN="CENTER"
>>>     WIDTH="1024"
>>>     HEIGHT="768"
>>>     pluginspage="http://www.squeakland.org/detect.html"
>>>     update_url="http://www.squeakland.org/update/"
>>>     ></embed>
>>> </OBJECT>
> ------------------
>
>> 2.  Will detection of the plugin be semi-automatic? I.e., if a user
>> without the plugin tries to download a Squeak project, will he get an
>> error, an ugly binary dump or something meaningful?
>
> From what I remember, in the life without the plugin in all my  
> browsers, if
> done "correctly" it will redirect user to the site where to find  
> the plugin.
> If you use the simple version on top, it will do it right.
>
>> 3.  Anything else I need to know about deployment?
>
> I am sure there is more and people more qualified will comment,  
> hopefully the
> above is a start,
>
> Milan
>
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Dan
>

> Thanks, Milan. Very helpful. I see that the server doesn't need to be
> aware of the data type of the content because you use an embedded
> object in the browser's code to circumvent. I know basically how to
> do that, so I'm off to do some trial work now.
>
> Dan
>
> On May 28, 2006, at 1:32 AM, Milan Zimmermann wrote:
> > Dan,
> >
> > A few notes below:
> >
> > On 2006 May 28 02:32, Dan Shafer wrote:
> >> OK, I downloaded the Squeak plug-in and I seem to be able to
> >> access .pr files stored on other sites. But how do I deploy a Squeak
> >> project as a plugin? I think the questions I need answered are:
> >>
> >> 1.  What does the server (Apache) need to know in order to serve
> >> Squeak projects as files? Anything?
> >
> > I am using Kom as Http server (not Apache), and this is the piece
> > of HTML that
> > works - I guess it piggibacks the .pr file through squeakland. The
> > only
> > important thing is the href:
> >
> > <a
> > href="http://www.squeakland.org/project.jsp?http://squeakers.ca:
> > 9090/squeak/games/FishTank-link.pr"><img
> >  alt="&quot;Squeak&quot;saver" title="Make your own
> > &quot;Squeak&quot;saver"
> >  src="squeak/games/FishTank-link.gif"
> >  style="border: 5px solid ; width: 250px; height: 175px;"></a>
> >
> > I suspect it will work on Apache as well, but do not know for sure.
> >
> > Perhaps you can start with this, just t test your project works
> > etc, and take
> > it from there, ask questions , plus more info about the HTTP plugin:
> >
> > http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~bert/squeak/plugin/test/
> > plugintest.html
> > http://www.squeakland.org/plugin/launch.html
> > http://squeakland.org/pipermail/squeakland/2004-October/002230.html
> >
> > and this message from Diego I saved:
> > ------------------
> > And also:
> >
> > failureURL="http://
> > www.whereYouCanFindAnInstallerForTheMissingImage.com"
> >
> >>> <OBJECT
> >>>     ID="SqueakOCX Control"
> >>
> >>        imageName="MySqueak.image"
> >>
> >>>     WIDTH=1024 HEIGHT=768
> >>>     ALIGN=center BORDER=2
> >>>     CLASSID="CLSID:2BE9C39E-8386-4435-B337-FCDAD8EAB006"
> >
> > CODEBASE="http://www.squeakland.org/installers/
> > SqueakPluginInstaller.exe">
> >
> >>> <embed
> >>>     type="application/x-squeak-source"
> >>
> >>        imageName="MySqueak.image"
> >>
> >>>     ALIGN="CENTER"
> >>>     WIDTH="1024"
> >>>     HEIGHT="768"
> >>>     pluginspage="http://www.squeakland.org/detect.html"
> >>>     update_url="http://www.squeakland.org/update/"
> >>>
> >>>     ></embed>
> >>>
> >>> </OBJECT>
> >
> > ------------------
> >
> >> 2.  Will detection of the plugin be semi-automatic? I.e., if a user
> >> without the plugin tries to download a Squeak project, will he get an
> >> error, an ugly binary dump or something meaningful?
> >
> > From what I remember, in the life without the plugin in all my
> > browsers, if
> > done "correctly" it will redirect user to the site where to find
> > the plugin.
> > If you use the simple version on top, it will do it right.
> >
> >> 3.  Anything else I need to know about deployment?
> >
> > I am sure there is more and people more qualified will comment,
> > hopefully the
> > above is a start,
> >
> > Milan
> >
> >> Thanks.
> >> Dan

> Am 30.05.2006 um 09:11 schrieb Herbert König:
>
>> Hello Milan, Bert,
>>
>>
>> MZ> http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~bert/squeak/plugin/test/ 
>> plugintest.html
>>
>> This one does not work, it starts the plugin with two flaps which are
>> not working.
>
> That means it works, mostly, in that it actually loads the plugin,  
> starts a VM, which executes the image, showing it in the browser  
> window.
>
> On my system (Mac OS X) it then tries to load 'plugintest.sts',  
> which fails (I get a walkback). Probably because the Mac plugin  
> does not support retrieving files through the browser API, and the  
> fall-back Squeak HTTP code needs a full URL. This could be  
> circumvented by giving a full URL in the HTML page, or using the  
> "BASE" parameter (see ProjectLauncher>>startUpAfterLogin). However,  
> I cannot change that web page anymore because I left the university.

> That means it works, mostly, in that it actually loads the plugin,  
> starts a VM, which executes the image, showing it in the browser  
> window.
>
> On my system (Mac OS X) it then tries to load 'plugintest.sts',  
> which fails (I get a walkback). Probably because the Mac plugin  
> does not support retrieving files through the browser API, and the  
> fall-back Squeak HTTP code needs a full URL. This could be  
> circumvented by giving a full URL in the HTML page, or using the  
> "BASE" parameter (see ProjectLauncher>>startUpAfterLogin). However,  
> I cannot change that web page anymore because I left the university.
>
> - Bert -
>

>
> On 30-May-06, at 4:36 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>
>> That means it works, mostly, in that it actually loads the plugin,  
>> starts a VM, which executes the image, showing it in the browser  
>> window.
>>
>> On my system (Mac OS X) it then tries to load 'plugintest.sts',  
>> which fails (I get a walkback). Probably because the Mac plugin  
>> does not support retrieving files through the browser API, and the  
>> fall-back Squeak HTTP code needs a full URL. This could be  
>> circumvented by giving a full URL in the HTML page, or using the  
>> "BASE" parameter (see ProjectLauncher>>startUpAfterLogin).  
>> However, I cannot change that web page anymore because I left the  
>> university.
>>
>> - Bert -
>>
>
> The browser plugin code for fetching files should work, there is  
> support for that in the plugin.

>
> MZ> http://www.squeakland.org/plugin/launch.html
>
> This one does work, it shows the bouncing atoms animation. and I can
> use the halos to get an Inspector, from there a browser.
>
> So looking further on the first site it simply seems outdated,
> referring to Squeak 3.2.
>
> I'm using the English 1.5.03 Firefox on WinXP.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> -Herbert                            mailto:[hidden email]