Smalltalk-78 in a web browser....(on a JavaScript VM)
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Smalltalk-78 (paper [1], video [4]) is available (repository [2]) again as a browser app on a JavaScript VM [5]. My question is about the demo [3]. I tried several times to load it in a browsser but it took a long time and loading did not finish. Is it working for others? And how can I set it up locally? I see no HTML file in the repo [2]. Regards Hannes ---------------- [1] Reviving Smalltalk-78 Dan Ingalls, Bert Freudenberg, Ted Kaehler, Yoshiki Oshima, Alan Kay http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/882 [2] Repository https://github.com/bertfreudenberg/Smalltalk78 [3] https://lively-web.org/users/bert/Smalltalk-78.html [4] Smalltalk-78 demo video (screen shot and link) http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/880 [5] https://github.com/bertfreudenberg/Smalltalk78/blob/master/vm.js (4333 LOC) |
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The lively page should work ... which browser are you using? Any errors in the JS console? If all else fails, try Chrome. There is a stand-alone version at http://www.cdglabs.org/thinglab/ which has ThingLab installed, but all the dev tools are still in there of course. For a local setup I would clone https://github.com/cdglabs/thinglab and replace the image with https://lively-web.org/users/bert/St78/updates/updated.st78 The main git repo does not have html, because it would not work without an image anyways. And I didn’t want to check in the image, because git and binary data don’t mix that well. Then again, the image is < 1 MB, maybe I should add it. I guess it would look similar to the ThingLab page - what do you think? - Bert - On Tue 14. Nov 2017 at 11:39, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: Hello |
Re: Smalltalk-78 in a web browser....(on a JavaScript VM)
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Hello Bert
On 11/14/17, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote: > The lively page should work ... which browser are you using? Any errors in > the JS console? If all else fails, try Chrome. > > There is a stand-alone version at http://www.cdglabs.org/thinglab/ which > has ThingLab installed, but all the dev tools are still in there of course. > > For a local setup I would clone https://github.com/cdglabs/thinglab and > replace the image with > https://lively-web.org/users/bert/St78/updates/updated.st78 > > The main git repo does not have html, because it would not work without an > image anyways. And I didn’t want to check in the image, because git and > binary data don’t mix that well. Then again, the image is < 1 MB, maybe I > should add it. I guess it would look similar to the ThingLab page - what do > you think? > > - Bert - I'd like to see the README (Repository https://github.com/bertfreudenberg/Smalltalk78) extended with step by step instructions how to get Smalltalk-78 image to run locally in a web browser. Copying the Smalltalk78 image file from another place is fine if I am told to do so in the instructions. The instructions should include suggestions about browser versions. I realize that I tried to load it on FF35 which is probably too old .... (my Ubuntu 14.04 installation). Thank you for this wonderful work! --Hannes > On Tue 14. Nov 2017 at 11:39, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hello >> >> Smalltalk-78 (paper [1], video [4]) is available (repository [2]) >> again as a browser app on a JavaScript VM [5]. >> >> My question is about the demo [3]. I tried several times to load it in >> a browsser but it took a long time and loading did not finish. Is it >> working for others? >> >> And how can I set it up locally? I see no HTML file in the repo [2]. >> >> Regards >> >> Hannes >> >> >> >> >> ---------------- >> >> [1] Reviving Smalltalk-78 >> Dan Ingalls, Bert Freudenberg, Ted Kaehler, Yoshiki Oshima, Alan Kay >> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/882 >> >> [2] Repository https://github.com/bertfreudenberg/Smalltalk78 >> >> >> [3] https://lively-web.org/users/bert/Smalltalk-78.html >> >> [4] Smalltalk-78 demo video (screen shot and link) >> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/880 >> >> [5] https://github.com/bertfreudenberg/Smalltalk78/blob/master/vm.js >> (4333 LOC) >> >> > |
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On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 12:52 PM, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: Hello Bert I added an index.html which fetches an image from the Lively site. Seems to work fine: ... although not quite all UI features are supported. E.g. copy/paste, or loading an image you saved locally, or importing/exporting files etc. is only implemented in Lively. These features would have to be implemented again (probably quite a bit could be copied from squeak.js). - Bert - |
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These demos are so cool! Thank you to everyone who helped resurrecting them.
Cheers, Bernhard > Am 14.11.2017 um 12:03 schrieb Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: > > The lively page should work ... which browser are you using? Any errors in the JS console? If all else fails, try Chrome. > > There is a stand-alone version at http://www.cdglabs.org/thinglab/ which has ThingLab installed, but all the dev tools are still in there of course. > > For a local setup I would clone https://github.com/cdglabs/thinglab and replace the image with https://lively-web.org/users/bert/St78/updates/updated.st78 > > The main git repo does not have html, because it would not work without an image anyways. And I didn’t want to check in the image, because git and binary data don’t mix that well. Then again, the image is < 1 MB, maybe I should add it. I guess it would look similar to the ThingLab page - what do you think? > > - Bert - > > On Tue 14. Nov 2017 at 11:39, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hello > > Smalltalk-78 (paper [1], video [4]) is available (repository [2]) > again as a browser app on a JavaScript VM [5]. > > My question is about the demo [3]. I tried several times to load it in > a browsser but it took a long time and loading did not finish. Is it > working for others? > > And how can I set it up locally? I see no HTML file in the repo [2]. > > Regards > > Hannes > > > > > ---------------- > > [1] Reviving Smalltalk-78 > Dan Ingalls, Bert Freudenberg, Ted Kaehler, Yoshiki Oshima, Alan Kay > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/882 > > [2] Repository https://github.com/bertfreudenberg/Smalltalk78 > > > [3] https://lively-web.org/users/bert/Smalltalk-78.html > > [4] Smalltalk-78 demo video (screen shot and link) > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/880 > > [5] https://github.com/bertfreudenberg/Smalltalk78/blob/master/vm.js > (4333 LOC) |
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