Some SqueakSource.com updates
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I have added myself (dtl) as a "superuser" in the squeaksource.com image at
www.squeaksource.com. The superuser has privilege to edit existing project settings. The squeaksource.com superusers are now Adrian Lienhard, Fabrizio Perin, Lukas Renggli, and Dave Lewis. Ron Teitelbaum has offered to serve as adminstrator for Andreas' projects on squeaksource.com. The projects owned by Andreas are CroquetGL, OpenQwaq, ar, TweakExtras, SQLite, MCUpdateTest, Squeak, Secret, MAPIClient, TweakCore, SqueakSSL, Names, Sweet, Integration Testing, NanoTraits, Balloon3D, Tool Builder, and WebClient. Initial discussion concerned the SqueakSSL project. I have added Ron as administrator to that project, and will add him to any of the other projects on request. Ron, please let me know which of those projects I should add you to, and I will make the updates. Dave |
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Hi David,
There are two that I would ask Bert to take on as Admin: MCUpdateTest and Names. There are three that I'm not sure about: Squeak, Secret, Sweet. I'm happy to take admin on those so that I can review what is there. I can report back with a recommendation on what to do with those repositories. I'll leave this up for discussion. There are 4 that are already well covered by others: CroquetGL, SQLite, Balloon3D, Tool Builder And there is one that I would like someone to step up and volunteer to review and take: NanoTraits And there are 2 I'm already Admin on: OpenQwaq, SqueakSSL. So can you please make me an admin on the following 6 projects: ar, TweakExtras, TweakCore, MAPIClient, Integration Testing, WebClient See below for details. All the best, Ron Teitelbaum I have two accounts RJT <-my initialize and Ron <-my name. Project -> Current -> Request change CroquetGL -> none -> none (Bert is already Admin) OpenQwaq -> Admin (ron) -> none ar -> Developer (ron) -> Admin (ron) TweakExtras -> None -> Admin (RJT) SQLite -> None -> None (Torsten Bergmann is Admin) MCUpdateTest -> None -> if Bert agrees I would rather have Bert be admin Squeak -> None -> have no idea what this is Secret -> None -> have no idea what this is MAPIClient -> None -> Admin (RJT) TweakCore -> None -> Admin (RJT) SqueakSSL -> Admin (RJT) -> None Names -> None -> if Bert agrees I would rather have Bert be admin Sweet -> None -> I have no idea what this is. Integration Testing -> None -> Admin (RJT) NanoTraits -> None -> Not sure about this one. Any volunteers to look at this code and take it over? Balloon3D -> None -> None (Bert is already admin) Tool Builder -> None -> None (looks like lots of support for this) WebClient -> None -> Admin (RJT) > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-dev- > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of David T. Lewis > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:57 PM > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > Subject: [squeak-dev] Some SqueakSource.com updates > > I have added myself (dtl) as a "superuser" in the squeaksource.com image at > www.squeaksource.com. The superuser has privilege to edit existing project > settings. The squeaksource.com superusers are now Adrian Lienhard, Fabrizio > Perin, Lukas Renggli, and Dave Lewis. > > Ron Teitelbaum has offered to serve as adminstrator for Andreas' projects on > squeaksource.com. The projects owned by Andreas are CroquetGL, OpenQwaq, > ar, TweakExtras, SQLite, MCUpdateTest, Squeak, Secret, MAPIClient, > TweakCore, SqueakSSL, Names, Sweet, Integration Testing, NanoTraits, > Balloon3D, Tool Builder, and WebClient. > > Initial discussion concerned the SqueakSSL project. I have added Ron as > administrator to that project, and will add him to any of the other projects on > request. > > Ron, please let me know which of those projects I should add you to, and I will > make the updates. > > Dave > > |
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Thanks Ron,
I have added you as admin to ar, TweakExtras, TweakCore, MAPIClient, Integration Testing, and WebClient. Dave On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:56:38PM -0500, Ron Teitelbaum wrote: > Hi David, > > There are two that I would ask Bert to take on as Admin: MCUpdateTest and > Names. > > There are three that I'm not sure about: Squeak, Secret, Sweet. I'm happy > to take admin on those so that I can review what is there. I can report > back with a recommendation on what to do with those repositories. I'll > leave this up for discussion. > > There are 4 that are already well covered by others: CroquetGL, SQLite, > Balloon3D, Tool Builder > > And there is one that I would like someone to step up and volunteer to > review and take: NanoTraits > > And there are 2 I'm already Admin on: OpenQwaq, SqueakSSL. > > So can you please make me an admin on the following 6 projects: ar, > TweakExtras, TweakCore, MAPIClient, Integration Testing, WebClient > > See below for details. > > All the best, > > Ron Teitelbaum > > I have two accounts RJT <-my initialize and Ron <-my name. > > Project -> Current -> Request change > > CroquetGL -> none -> none (Bert is already Admin) > > OpenQwaq -> Admin (ron) -> none > > ar -> Developer (ron) -> Admin (ron) > > TweakExtras -> None -> Admin (RJT) > > SQLite -> None -> None (Torsten Bergmann is Admin) > > MCUpdateTest -> None -> if Bert agrees I would rather have Bert be admin > > Squeak -> None -> have no idea what this is > > Secret -> None -> have no idea what this is > > MAPIClient -> None -> Admin (RJT) > > TweakCore -> None -> Admin (RJT) > > SqueakSSL -> Admin (RJT) -> None > > Names -> None -> if Bert agrees I would rather have Bert be admin > > Sweet -> None -> I have no idea what this is. > > Integration Testing -> None -> Admin (RJT) > > NanoTraits -> None -> Not sure about this one. Any volunteers to look at > this code and take it over? > > Balloon3D -> None -> None (Bert is already admin) > > Tool Builder -> None -> None (looks like lots of support for this) > > WebClient -> None -> Admin (RJT) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-dev- > > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of David T. Lewis > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:57 PM > > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > > Subject: [squeak-dev] Some SqueakSource.com updates > > > > I have added myself (dtl) as a "superuser" in the squeaksource.com image > at > > www.squeaksource.com. The superuser has privilege to edit existing project > > settings. The squeaksource.com superusers are now Adrian Lienhard, > Fabrizio > > Perin, Lukas Renggli, and Dave Lewis. > > > > Ron Teitelbaum has offered to serve as adminstrator for Andreas' projects > on > > squeaksource.com. The projects owned by Andreas are CroquetGL, OpenQwaq, > > ar, TweakExtras, SQLite, MCUpdateTest, Squeak, Secret, MAPIClient, > > TweakCore, SqueakSSL, Names, Sweet, Integration Testing, NanoTraits, > > Balloon3D, Tool Builder, and WebClient. > > > > Initial discussion concerned the SqueakSSL project. I have added Ron as > > administrator to that project, and will add him to any of the other > projects on > > request. > > > > Ron, please let me know which of those projects I should add you to, and I > will > > make the updates. > > > > Dave > > > > > > |
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Thank you!
Ron > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-dev- > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of David T. Lewis > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:08 AM > To: [hidden email]; The general-purpose Squeak developers list > Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Some SqueakSource.com updates > > Thanks Ron, > > I have added you as admin to ar, TweakExtras, TweakCore, MAPIClient, > Integration Testing, and WebClient. > > Dave > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:56:38PM -0500, Ron Teitelbaum wrote: > > Hi David, > > > > There are two that I would ask Bert to take on as Admin: MCUpdateTest > > and Names. > > > > There are three that I'm not sure about: Squeak, Secret, Sweet. I'm > > happy to take admin on those so that I can review what is there. I > > can report back with a recommendation on what to do with those > > repositories. I'll leave this up for discussion. > > > > There are 4 that are already well covered by others: CroquetGL, > > SQLite, Balloon3D, Tool Builder > > > > And there is one that I would like someone to step up and volunteer to > > review and take: NanoTraits > > > > And there are 2 I'm already Admin on: OpenQwaq, SqueakSSL. > > > > So can you please make me an admin on the following 6 projects: ar, > > TweakExtras, TweakCore, MAPIClient, Integration Testing, WebClient > > > > See below for details. > > > > All the best, > > > > Ron Teitelbaum > > > > I have two accounts RJT <-my initialize and Ron <-my name. > > > > Project -> Current -> Request change > > > > CroquetGL -> none -> none (Bert is already Admin) > > > > OpenQwaq -> Admin (ron) -> none > > > > ar -> Developer (ron) -> Admin (ron) > > > > TweakExtras -> None -> Admin (RJT) > > > > SQLite -> None -> None (Torsten Bergmann is Admin) > > > > MCUpdateTest -> None -> if Bert agrees I would rather have Bert be > > admin > > > > Squeak -> None -> have no idea what this is > > > > Secret -> None -> have no idea what this is > > > > MAPIClient -> None -> Admin (RJT) > > > > TweakCore -> None -> Admin (RJT) > > > > SqueakSSL -> Admin (RJT) -> None > > > > Names -> None -> if Bert agrees I would rather have Bert be admin > > > > Sweet -> None -> I have no idea what this is. > > > > Integration Testing -> None -> Admin (RJT) > > > > NanoTraits -> None -> Not sure about this one. Any volunteers to look > > at this code and take it over? > > > > Balloon3D -> None -> None (Bert is already admin) > > > > Tool Builder -> None -> None (looks like lots of support for this) > > > > WebClient -> None -> Admin (RJT) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [hidden email] > > > [mailto:squeak-dev- [hidden email]] On Behalf Of > > > David T. Lewis > > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:57 PM > > > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > > > Subject: [squeak-dev] Some SqueakSource.com updates > > > > > > I have added myself (dtl) as a "superuser" in the squeaksource.com > > > image > > at > > > www.squeaksource.com. The superuser has privilege to edit existing > > > project settings. The squeaksource.com superusers are now Adrian > > > Lienhard, > > Fabrizio > > > Perin, Lukas Renggli, and Dave Lewis. > > > > > > Ron Teitelbaum has offered to serve as adminstrator for Andreas' > > > projects > > on > > > squeaksource.com. The projects owned by Andreas are CroquetGL, > > > OpenQwaq, ar, TweakExtras, SQLite, MCUpdateTest, Squeak, Secret, > > > MAPIClient, TweakCore, SqueakSSL, Names, Sweet, Integration Testing, > > > NanoTraits, Balloon3D, Tool Builder, and WebClient. > > > > > > Initial discussion concerned the SqueakSSL project. I have added Ron > > > as administrator to that project, and will add him to any of the > > > other > > projects on > > > request. > > > > > > Ron, please let me know which of those projects I should add you to, > > > and I > > will > > > make the updates. > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Wow, you had an immediate "need" for SqueakSSL because you have
updates to post. Do you actually have updates for all these other projects too or have you just gone hog-wild wanting access for the sake of access? Look at the project description for "ar", Ron, it says: ------------- My stuff. Not yours. Mine. All code in this repository is (c) copyright Andreas Raab, 2010. ------------- WTF Ron? Clearly, this is a private "workarea" of some kind. You have very clearly violated the wishes of the owner of this repository. Your prior arguments about "confusion" do not line up at all with your heavy-handed abuse here, because this is not a project for public consumption. I think your actions busting into this clearly private area is disrespectful (to put it nicely). You should have copied this repository. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote: > Thank you! > > Ron > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-dev- >> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of David T. Lewis >> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:08 AM >> To: [hidden email]; The general-purpose Squeak developers list >> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Some SqueakSource.com updates >> >> Thanks Ron, >> >> I have added you as admin to ar, TweakExtras, TweakCore, MAPIClient, >> Integration Testing, and WebClient. >> >> Dave >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:56:38PM -0500, Ron Teitelbaum wrote: >> > Hi David, >> > >> > There are two that I would ask Bert to take on as Admin: MCUpdateTest >> > and Names. >> > >> > There are three that I'm not sure about: Squeak, Secret, Sweet. I'm >> > happy to take admin on those so that I can review what is there. I >> > can report back with a recommendation on what to do with those >> > repositories. I'll leave this up for discussion. >> > >> > There are 4 that are already well covered by others: CroquetGL, >> > SQLite, Balloon3D, Tool Builder >> > >> > And there is one that I would like someone to step up and volunteer to >> > review and take: NanoTraits >> > >> > And there are 2 I'm already Admin on: OpenQwaq, SqueakSSL. >> > >> > So can you please make me an admin on the following 6 projects: ar, >> > TweakExtras, TweakCore, MAPIClient, Integration Testing, WebClient >> > >> > See below for details. >> > >> > All the best, >> > >> > Ron Teitelbaum >> > >> > I have two accounts RJT <-my initialize and Ron <-my name. >> > >> > Project -> Current -> Request change >> > >> > CroquetGL -> none -> none (Bert is already Admin) >> > >> > OpenQwaq -> Admin (ron) -> none >> > >> > ar -> Developer (ron) -> Admin (ron) >> > >> > TweakExtras -> None -> Admin (RJT) >> > >> > SQLite -> None -> None (Torsten Bergmann is Admin) >> > >> > MCUpdateTest -> None -> if Bert agrees I would rather have Bert be >> > admin >> > >> > Squeak -> None -> have no idea what this is >> > >> > Secret -> None -> have no idea what this is >> > >> > MAPIClient -> None -> Admin (RJT) >> > >> > TweakCore -> None -> Admin (RJT) >> > >> > SqueakSSL -> Admin (RJT) -> None >> > >> > Names -> None -> if Bert agrees I would rather have Bert be admin >> > >> > Sweet -> None -> I have no idea what this is. >> > >> > Integration Testing -> None -> Admin (RJT) >> > >> > NanoTraits -> None -> Not sure about this one. Any volunteers to look >> > at this code and take it over? >> > >> > Balloon3D -> None -> None (Bert is already admin) >> > >> > Tool Builder -> None -> None (looks like lots of support for this) >> > >> > WebClient -> None -> Admin (RJT) >> > >> > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: [hidden email] >> > > [mailto:squeak-dev- [hidden email]] On Behalf Of >> > > David T. Lewis >> > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:57 PM >> > > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] >> > > Subject: [squeak-dev] Some SqueakSource.com updates >> > > >> > > I have added myself (dtl) as a "superuser" in the squeaksource.com >> > > image >> > at >> > > www.squeaksource.com. The superuser has privilege to edit existing >> > > project settings. The squeaksource.com superusers are now Adrian >> > > Lienhard, >> > Fabrizio >> > > Perin, Lukas Renggli, and Dave Lewis. >> > > >> > > Ron Teitelbaum has offered to serve as adminstrator for Andreas' >> > > projects >> > on >> > > squeaksource.com. The projects owned by Andreas are CroquetGL, >> > > OpenQwaq, ar, TweakExtras, SQLite, MCUpdateTest, Squeak, Secret, >> > > MAPIClient, TweakCore, SqueakSSL, Names, Sweet, Integration Testing, >> > > NanoTraits, Balloon3D, Tool Builder, and WebClient. >> > > >> > > Initial discussion concerned the SqueakSSL project. I have added Ron >> > > as administrator to that project, and will add him to any of the >> > > other >> > projects on >> > > request. >> > > >> > > Ron, please let me know which of those projects I should add you to, >> > > and I >> > will >> > > make the updates. >> > > >> > > Dave >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > |
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Chris,
We are trusting Ron to act in a manner that would be consistent with Andreas' wishes. I am confident that he will do exactly that. The 'ar' project is publicly accessible, with a clear copyright statement. It is not available under license (such as MIT), and Andreas' comment makes this very clear. Dave > Wow, you had an immediate "need" for SqueakSSL because you have > updates to post. Do you actually have updates for all these other > projects too or have you just gone hog-wild wanting access for the > sake of access? > > Look at the project description for "ar", Ron, it says: > > ------------- > My stuff. Not yours. Mine. > > All code in this repository is (c) copyright Andreas Raab, 2010. > ------------- > > WTF Ron? Clearly, this is a private "workarea" of some kind. You > have very clearly violated the wishes of the owner of this repository. > Your prior arguments about "confusion" do not line up at all with > your heavy-handed abuse here, because this is not a project for public > consumption. I think your actions busting into this clearly private > area is disrespectful (to put it nicely). You should have copied this > repository. > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Thank you! >> >> Ron >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-dev- >>> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of David T. Lewis >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:08 AM >>> To: [hidden email]; The general-purpose Squeak developers list >>> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Some SqueakSource.com updates >>> >>> Thanks Ron, >>> >>> I have added you as admin to ar, TweakExtras, TweakCore, MAPIClient, >>> Integration Testing, and WebClient. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:56:38PM -0500, Ron Teitelbaum wrote: >>> > Hi David, >>> > >>> > There are two that I would ask Bert to take on as Admin: MCUpdateTest >>> > and Names. >>> > >>> > There are three that I'm not sure about: Squeak, Secret, Sweet. I'm >>> > happy to take admin on those so that I can review what is there. I >>> > can report back with a recommendation on what to do with those >>> > repositories. I'll leave this up for discussion. >>> > >>> > There are 4 that are already well covered by others: CroquetGL, >>> > SQLite, Balloon3D, Tool Builder >>> > >>> > And there is one that I would like someone to step up and volunteer >>> to >>> > review and take: NanoTraits >>> > >>> > And there are 2 I'm already Admin on: OpenQwaq, SqueakSSL. >>> > >>> > So can you please make me an admin on the following 6 projects: ar, >>> > TweakExtras, TweakCore, MAPIClient, Integration Testing, WebClient >>> > >>> > See below for details. >>> > >>> > All the best, >>> > >>> > Ron Teitelbaum >>> > >>> > I have two accounts RJT <-my initialize and Ron <-my name. >>> > >>> > Project -> Current -> Request change >>> > >>> > CroquetGL -> none -> none (Bert is already Admin) >>> > >>> > OpenQwaq -> Admin (ron) -> none >>> > >>> > ar -> Developer (ron) -> Admin (ron) >>> > >>> > TweakExtras -> None -> Admin (RJT) >>> > >>> > SQLite -> None -> None (Torsten Bergmann is Admin) >>> > >>> > MCUpdateTest -> None -> if Bert agrees I would rather have Bert be >>> > admin >>> > >>> > Squeak -> None -> have no idea what this is >>> > >>> > Secret -> None -> have no idea what this is >>> > >>> > MAPIClient -> None -> Admin (RJT) >>> > >>> > TweakCore -> None -> Admin (RJT) >>> > >>> > SqueakSSL -> Admin (RJT) -> None >>> > >>> > Names -> None -> if Bert agrees I would rather have Bert be admin >>> > >>> > Sweet -> None -> I have no idea what this is. >>> > >>> > Integration Testing -> None -> Admin (RJT) >>> > >>> > NanoTraits -> None -> Not sure about this one. Any volunteers to >>> look >>> > at this code and take it over? >>> > >>> > Balloon3D -> None -> None (Bert is already admin) >>> > >>> > Tool Builder -> None -> None (looks like lots of support for this) >>> > >>> > WebClient -> None -> Admin (RJT) >>> > >>> > >>> > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > From: [hidden email] >>> > > [mailto:squeak-dev- [hidden email]] On Behalf >>> Of >>> > > David T. Lewis >>> > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:57 PM >>> > > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] >>> > > Subject: [squeak-dev] Some SqueakSource.com updates >>> > > >>> > > I have added myself (dtl) as a "superuser" in the squeaksource.com >>> > > image >>> > at >>> > > www.squeaksource.com. The superuser has privilege to edit existing >>> > > project settings. The squeaksource.com superusers are now Adrian >>> > > Lienhard, >>> > Fabrizio >>> > > Perin, Lukas Renggli, and Dave Lewis. >>> > > >>> > > Ron Teitelbaum has offered to serve as adminstrator for Andreas' >>> > > projects >>> > on >>> > > squeaksource.com. The projects owned by Andreas are CroquetGL, >>> > > OpenQwaq, ar, TweakExtras, SQLite, MCUpdateTest, Squeak, Secret, >>> > > MAPIClient, TweakCore, SqueakSSL, Names, Sweet, Integration >>> Testing, >>> > > NanoTraits, Balloon3D, Tool Builder, and WebClient. >>> > > >>> > > Initial discussion concerned the SqueakSSL project. I have added >>> Ron >>> > > as administrator to that project, and will add him to any of the >>> > > other >>> > projects on >>> > > request. >>> > > >>> > > Ron, please let me know which of those projects I should add you >>> to, >>> > > and I >>> > will >>> > > make the updates. >>> > > >>> > > Dave >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> >> >> >> > |
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On 18.02.2014, at 16:58, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:
> WTF Ron? Clearly, this is a private "workarea" of some kind. You > have very clearly violated the wishes of the owner of this repository. Calm down, Chris. We have explicit permission and even a wish from his wife to keep Andreas' projects alive. This includes projects he was working on and did not make public yet. That is what Ron wants to do, and Andreas trusted him, and I trust Ron, so there's nothing to get upset about. - Bert - |
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> > Wow, you had an immediate "need" for SqueakSSL because you have updates to > post. Do you actually have updates for all these other projects too or have you > just gone hog-wild wanting access for the sake of access? > > Look at the project description for "ar", Ron, it says: > > ------------- > My stuff. Not yours. Mine. > > All code in this repository is (c) copyright Andreas Raab, 2010. > ------------- > > WTF Ron? Clearly, this is a private "workarea" of some kind. You > have very clearly violated the wishes of the owner of this repository. > Your prior arguments about "confusion" do not line up at all with your heavy- > handed abuse here, because this is not a project for public consumption. I think > your actions busting into this clearly private area is disrespectful (to put it > nicely). You should have copied this repository. Chris you have no idea what you are talking about. This is a repo that Andreas and I shared for work. I was already a developer on ar. It only had Andreas and myself on it. We added stuff there for convenience. There are 3 private repos that I was not on and I don't know what they have in them. This is not one of them. I asked the community specifically what everyone thinks we should do about those ones, trying to respect Andreas' privacy. I wouldn’t have presumed to just ask myself to be added to those repos without discussion. All the best, Ron Teitelbaum > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Thank you! > > > > Ron > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [hidden email] > >> [mailto:squeak-dev- [hidden email]] On Behalf Of > >> David T. Lewis > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:08 AM > >> To: [hidden email]; The general-purpose Squeak developers list > >> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Some SqueakSource.com updates > >> > >> Thanks Ron, > >> > >> I have added you as admin to ar, TweakExtras, TweakCore, MAPIClient, > >> Integration Testing, and WebClient. > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:56:38PM -0500, Ron Teitelbaum wrote: > >> > Hi David, > >> > > >> > There are two that I would ask Bert to take on as Admin: > >> > MCUpdateTest and Names. > >> > > >> > There are three that I'm not sure about: Squeak, Secret, Sweet. > >> > I'm happy to take admin on those so that I can review what is > >> > there. I can report back with a recommendation on what to do with > >> > those repositories. I'll leave this up for discussion. > >> > > >> > There are 4 that are already well covered by others: CroquetGL, > >> > SQLite, Balloon3D, Tool Builder > >> > > >> > And there is one that I would like someone to step up and volunteer > >> > to review and take: NanoTraits > >> > > >> > And there are 2 I'm already Admin on: OpenQwaq, SqueakSSL. > >> > > >> > So can you please make me an admin on the following 6 projects: ar, > >> > TweakExtras, TweakCore, MAPIClient, Integration Testing, WebClient > >> > > >> > See below for details. > >> > > >> > All the best, > >> > > >> > Ron Teitelbaum > >> > > >> > I have two accounts RJT <-my initialize and Ron <-my name. > >> > > >> > Project -> Current -> Request change > >> > > >> > CroquetGL -> none -> none (Bert is already Admin) > >> > > >> > OpenQwaq -> Admin (ron) -> none > >> > > >> > ar -> Developer (ron) -> Admin (ron) > >> > > >> > TweakExtras -> None -> Admin (RJT) > >> > > >> > SQLite -> None -> None (Torsten Bergmann is Admin) > >> > > >> > MCUpdateTest -> None -> if Bert agrees I would rather have Bert be > >> > admin > >> > > >> > Squeak -> None -> have no idea what this is > >> > > >> > Secret -> None -> have no idea what this is > >> > > >> > MAPIClient -> None -> Admin (RJT) > >> > > >> > TweakCore -> None -> Admin (RJT) > >> > > >> > SqueakSSL -> Admin (RJT) -> None > >> > > >> > Names -> None -> if Bert agrees I would rather have Bert be admin > >> > > >> > Sweet -> None -> I have no idea what this is. > >> > > >> > Integration Testing -> None -> Admin (RJT) > >> > > >> > NanoTraits -> None -> Not sure about this one. Any volunteers to > >> > look at this code and take it over? > >> > > >> > Balloon3D -> None -> None (Bert is already admin) > >> > > >> > Tool Builder -> None -> None (looks like lots of support for this) > >> > > >> > WebClient -> None -> Admin (RJT) > >> > > >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > From: [hidden email] > >> > > [mailto:squeak-dev- [hidden email]] On Behalf > >> > > Of David T. Lewis > >> > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:57 PM > >> > > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > >> > > Subject: [squeak-dev] Some SqueakSource.com updates > >> > > > >> > > I have added myself (dtl) as a "superuser" in the > >> > > squeaksource.com image > >> > at > >> > > www.squeaksource.com. The superuser has privilege to edit > >> > > existing project settings. The squeaksource.com superusers are > >> > > now Adrian Lienhard, > >> > Fabrizio > >> > > Perin, Lukas Renggli, and Dave Lewis. > >> > > > >> > > Ron Teitelbaum has offered to serve as adminstrator for Andreas' > >> > > projects > >> > on > >> > > squeaksource.com. The projects owned by Andreas are CroquetGL, > >> > > OpenQwaq, ar, TweakExtras, SQLite, MCUpdateTest, Squeak, Secret, > >> > > MAPIClient, TweakCore, SqueakSSL, Names, Sweet, Integration > >> > > Testing, NanoTraits, Balloon3D, Tool Builder, and WebClient. > >> > > > >> > > Initial discussion concerned the SqueakSSL project. I have added > >> > > Ron as administrator to that project, and will add him to any of > >> > > the other > >> > projects on > >> > > request. > >> > > > >> > > Ron, please let me know which of those projects I should add you > >> > > to, and I > >> > will > >> > > make the updates. > >> > > > >> > > Dave > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > |
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That's good to know. My understanding from yesterday was we were only
going to pierce SqueakSSL for now. So when I saw Ron dole'ing out access blanket-wholesale to folks who hadn't even requested it, it was disturbing. I didn't realize Ron was _already_ developer on this one that explicitly says, "Mine Not Yours", so I'm glad that's the case. I apologize to Ron for thinking he broke into that. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 18.02.2014, at 16:58, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> WTF Ron? Clearly, this is a private "workarea" of some kind. You >> have very clearly violated the wishes of the owner of this repository. > > Calm down, Chris. We have explicit permission and even a wish from his wife to keep Andreas' projects alive. This includes projects he was working on and did not make public yet. That is what Ron wants to do, and Andreas trusted him, and I trust Ron, so there's nothing to get upset about. > > - Bert - > > > > > |
RE: Some SqueakSource.com updates
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Hi Chris,
> > That's good to know. My understanding from yesterday was we were only > going to pierce SqueakSSL for now. So when I saw Ron dole'ing out access > blanket-wholesale to folks who hadn't even requested it, it was disturbing. While I appreciate the apology I would still like to clarify. I have made no changes and I have given access to nobody. I simply did a review of what I thought should be done. It had very clear summaries and detailed notes of each repository along with explanations. I have no problem with you objecting to anything I've asked the community to discuss. We do need to decide what to do with the three extra projects. I recommended that Bert, if he wanted, to be added to repositories that he knows the most about. It makes no sense for me to be an admin on Monticello projects. Anything I would do I would ask Bert first! I have no idea what to do with NanoTraits, so I'm asking the community for help with that. (I'm hoping that Igor or Daniel raise their hands). The others I didn't ask for a change at all because there were already people in the admin role that could handle the projects. While I appreciate your goals are to protect the community I would ask you to read more carefully and state things in factual terms. I too have the goal to protect to community. Starting from a position of trust would be a great benefit to everyone. Just so you understand, Nobody, and I mean Nobody touches Andreas' Chess code! (I suggested a fix once and got an earful from Andreas about it :) All the best, Ron Teitelbaum > I didn't realize Ron was _already_ developer on this one that explicitly says, "Mine > Not Yours", so I'm glad that's the case. > I apologize to Ron for thinking he broke into that. > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > On 18.02.2014, at 16:58, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > >> WTF Ron? Clearly, this is a private "workarea" of some kind. You > >> have very clearly violated the wishes of the owner of this repository. > > > > Calm down, Chris. We have explicit permission and even a wish from his wife > to keep Andreas' projects alive. This includes projects he was working on and did > not make public yet. That is what Ron wants to do, and Andreas trusted him, and > I trust Ron, so there's nothing to get upset about. > > > > - Bert - > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Some SqueakSource.com updates
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>> That's good to know. My understanding from yesterday was we were only
>> going to pierce SqueakSSL for now. So when I saw Ron dole'ing out access >> blanket-wholesale to folks who hadn't even requested it, it was disturbing. > > While I appreciate the apology I would still like to clarify. I have made no changes and I have given access to nobody. The #1 thing that got my goat about what you're doing with SqueakSSL is that I felt you were dissing a digital boundary for no good reason -- since it wasn't strictly necessary to keep Andreas' projects alive. Then this morning I saw you escalating that behavior even more by actively recruiting "admin" maintainers for projects that no one has even expressed a need to maintain yet. To do that even before there's an active need to do it -- I can't tell you how this level of disregard for digital boundaries makes me feel, and from a guy who understands digital security but maybe not the consequences of such lax social attitudes about it. > I simply did a review of what I thought should be done. It had very clear summaries and detailed notes of each repository along with explanations. I have no problem with you objecting to anything I've asked the community to discuss. We do need to decide what to do with the three extra projects. I recommended that Bert, if he wanted, to be added to repositories that he knows the most about. It makes no sense for me to be an admin on Monticello projects. Anything I would do I would ask Bert first! I have no idea what to do with NanoTraits, so I'm asking the community for help with that. (I'm hoping that Igor or Daniel raise their hands). The others I didn't ask for a change at all because there were already people in the admin role that could handle the projects. I wish I could have convinced Dave to make squeaksource.com 100% read-only when we took it over. Then we wouldn't need to discuss anything, and Andreas' project descendants would live-on simply by natural selection by those with a vested interest in them. > While I appreciate your goals are to protect the community I would ask you to read more carefully and state things in factual terms. Pretty easy for me to miss you on that "ar" project given the context of what you're doing and your confusing e-mail. I already apologized about it, but everything else I've said has been factual, TMK. > I too have the goal to protect to community. Starting from a position of trust would be a great benefit to everyone. Just so you understand, Nobody, and I mean Nobody touches Andreas' Chess code! (I suggested a fix once and got an earful from Andreas about it :) I did start from a position of trust. Then there was the switch-a-roo to all these other projects. I already thought what we were doing was heavy-handed, I was blown away by the new aggressiveness! Since then Bert said you guys have "explicit permission" to do all this, which helps, but I still think there are better ways to keep Andreas' projects alive than doing this. I feel like I'm repeating now, so I'm officially done talking about it. We all agree about keeping Andreas' memory and projects alive, just disagree about how. You knew him best, if anyone should do this, it should be you. |
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