Squeak 4.5 Release Candidate 3

Okay, our testing is serving its purpose by finding issues.

Now please bang on this one.

http://ftp.squeak.org/4.5alpha/Squeak4.5-13671.zip

Hi,

tested my 4 recent Apps, one even an Aida 6.1 webserver with automated
tests from the web browser and everything went fine. One is a memory
eater and all give full CPU load for several minutes. All my woes from
RC1 are gone.

Well done Chris. Big Thanks!

Guess now it's time to switch my current project to 4.5 and test the
smart splitters.

Cheers

Herbert


.Am 04.02.2014 18:12, schrieb Chris Muller:
> Okay, our testing is serving its purpose by finding issues.
>
> Now please bang on this one.
>
> http://ftp.squeak.org/4.5alpha/Squeak4.5-13671.zip
>

On 04-02-2014, at 9:12 AM, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> http://ftp.squeak.org/4.5alpha/Squeak4.5-13671.zip
>
No show-stoppers so far. Plumbin loads up ok, which is probably the nearest to a stress test I can think of in the middle of work ;-)

One thing we probably ought to clean up at some point is the Preferences. There’s plenty of scope for confusion in the button row;
the ‘default’ button doesn’t set things to how the image is delivered - at the very least the flaps seem to turn on. (Looks like Preferences class>defaultValueTableForCurrentRelease would need whacking on)
‘save’ & ‘save to disk’ would seem redundant (I know they’re actually different but would any new user?)
similarly ‘load’ & ‘load from disk’
save & load to disk only load a specific file with no option to choose which one
the balloon help is sufficiently translucent as to be almost indecipherable
… and the text is often confused
the themes seem rather out of date - ‘out of the box’ is for 3.2? Wow.

I very, very, rarely touch preferences, which is why I don’t think I’ve really noticed this before and besides, we should try to use new eyes when checking out a release candidate. I’ll Mantisize the above. (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7808 FYI)

tim
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On 04.02.2014, at 22:28, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
One thing while we are at preferences:
can we please enable 'List classes hierarchically' by default? It saves so much compared to
always open a hierarchy browser (which is cumbersome on a mac in the first place)

best
        -Tobias

> always open a hierarchy browser (which is cumbersome on a mac in the first place)

Why is Hierarchy Browser cumbersome on a Mac?

On 04.02.2014, at 23:01, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:

>> always open a hierarchy browser (which is cumbersome on a mac in the first place)
>
> Why is Hierarchy Browser cumbersome on a Mac?

Cmd-H hides the whole application ;)

As well, Command+Space invokes the Window menu on Ubuntu 12.04 (w/
Unity UI), so I simply changed it to Command+F3.

Could you change the key hot-key on the Apple so they don't conflict?

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On 04.02.2014, at 23:01, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>> always open a hierarchy browser (which is cumbersome on a mac in the first place)
>>
>> Why is Hierarchy Browser cumbersome on a Mac?
>
> Cmd-H hides the whole application ;)
>
>

On 04.02.2014, at 23:07, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:

> As well, Command+Space invokes the Window menu on Ubuntu 12.04 (w/
> Unity UI), so I simply changed it to Command+F3.
>
> Could you change the key hot-key on the Apple so they don't conflict?

No, cause that would ruin my whole experience when not using Squeak; not an option.
What does command-space actually do in squeak?

PS: regardless of being able to summon the HB, I really like to have the pref enabled by default

>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> On 04.02.2014, at 23:01, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>>> always open a hierarchy browser (which is cumbersome on a mac in the first place)
>>>
>>> Why is Hierarchy Browser cumbersome on a Mac?
>>
>> Cmd-H hides the whole application ;)

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On 04.02.2014, at 23:07, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> As well, Command+Space invokes the Window menu on Ubuntu 12.04 (w/
>> Unity UI), so I simply changed it to Command+F3.
>>
>> Could you change the key hot-key on the Apple so they don't conflict?
>
> No, cause that would ruin my whole experience when not using Squeak; not an option.
> What does command-space actually do in squeak?

Try it!  :)  It does various selections depending on where the cursor
is.  Inside a word, it'll select that word (so you can then select
senders/ipmlementors, etc).  Just inside any brackets )]} or ([{, it
will select the contents of that bracketed section.  From the end of a
line, the line.  From the beginning or end of a method, the entire
method.

> PS: regardless of being able to summon the HB, I really like to have the pref enabled by default

If we end up needing another RC, I have no objection (you might want
to commit change to ReleaseBuilder>>#setPreferences since I might not
remember).  Otherwise, in 4.6 it sounds like we want to fix up the
default preference table which has been ignored for several release at
least and you can put it there then.