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Squeak Browser plugin source and arch

Brad Fuller
Sorry for double posting, I figure that not all squeakland people visit squeak-dev and vice versa.

I've been looking at the npsqueak source at: http://squeakvm.org/ and have a couple of questions.
First, I know nothing about how to make a browser plugin, but I'd like to learn. Second, I noticed that npsqueak exists only for unix and only for the Netscape browser. I didn't see the code under any other platform, or browser plugin for other browsers. Why is that? How can squeak  execute on other platforms and other browsers (Opera excluded as I heard that it uses the same plugin architecture as Mozilla) with out a plugin?

I guess that's a good place to start my questions. If there is documentation that you can point me to, I'd appreciate it. I see that Bert placed a comment in npunix.c:
 * At the official Netscape site there's only the PluginSDK30b5 for unix:
 *
 * !!! I had to add the missing URLNotify stuff here. If you find an official
 * !!! version of this file which has it, use it instead.
 * !!!        April 2000, Bert Freudenberg

which seems to strongly imply that there is little documentation. So, any help is much obliged.

thanks,

brad

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Re: Squeak Browser plugin source and arch

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Am 02.06.2006 um 02:07 schrieb Brad Fuller:

> Sorry for double posting, I figure that not all squeakland people  
> visit squeak-dev and vice versa.

Actually, those Squeakland people who care about those techy details  
*do* subscribe to squeak-dev. This list is intended for discussion of  
the educational use of Squeak.

> I've been looking at the npsqueak source at: http://squeakvm.org/ 
> and have a couple of questions.

I'll answer on squeak-dev, though the vm-dev list might be even more  
appropriate, since many Squeak developers do fine without ever  
digging into the C support code of the VM.

- Bert -

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Re: Squeak Browser plugin source and arch

Brad Fuller
Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Am 02.06.2006 um 02:07 schrieb Brad Fuller:

  
Sorry for double posting, I figure that not all squeakland people  
visit squeak-dev and vice versa.
    

Actually, those Squeakland people who care about those techy details  
*do* subscribe to squeak-dev. This list is intended for discussion of  
the educational use of Squeak.

  
I had a plugin question answered there so it seemed logical, especially since the plugin comes from the Squeakland download.
I'm wondering if the other plugins are proprietary... perhaps people at Squeakland.com (viewpoints, etc.) wrote the plugin?
Can anyone here at squeakland say for sure?


  
I've been looking at the npsqueak source at: http://squeakvm.org/  
and have a couple of questions.
    

I'll answer on squeak-dev, though the vm-dev list might be even more  
appropriate, since many Squeak developers do fine without ever  
digging into the C support code of the VM.
  
Much obliged. I will reply there.
Still would like to know if the other plugins are proprietary or if the source is available.

brad

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Re: Squeak Browser plugin source and arch

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Re: [Squeakland] Squeak Browser plugin source and arch
Hi, Brad -
Kim Rose from Viewpoints here....and I am including Michael Rueger  here, who creates the PlugIns on our behalf.  When you say "other PlugIns" do you mean Squeak(land) plugIns for other platforms?
As far as the "source" being available for those, I'll ask Mike to reply....
 -- Kim


At 8:41 AM -0700 6/2/06, Brad Fuller wrote:
Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Am 02.06.2006 um 02:07 schrieb Brad Fuller:

 

Sorry for double posting, I figure that not all squeakland people 
visit squeak-dev and vice versa.
   


Actually, those Squeakland people who care about those techy details 
*do* subscribe to squeak-dev. This list is intended for discussion of 
the educational use of Squeak.

 

I had a plugin question answered there so it seemed logical, especially since the plugin comes from the Squeakland download.
I'm wondering if the other plugins are proprietary... perhaps people at Squeakland.com (viewpoints, etc.) wrote the plugin?
Can anyone here at squeakland say for sure?
I've been looking at the npsqueak source at: http://squeakvm.org/ 
and have a couple of questions.
   


I'll answer on squeak-dev, though the vm-dev list might be even more 
appropriate, since many Squeak developers do fine without ever 
digging into the C support code of the VM.
 

Much obliged. I will reply there.
Still would like to know if the other plugins are proprietary or if the source is available.

brad

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Kim Rose wrote:
Re: [Squeakland] Squeak Browser plugin source and arch
Hi, Brad -
Kim Rose from Viewpoints here....and I am including Michael Rueger  here, who creates the PlugIns on our behalf.  When you say "other PlugIns" do you mean Squeak(land) plugIns for other platforms?
As far as the "source" being available for those, I'll ask Mike to reply....

Hi Kim,
Thanks for replying.
I'm referring to other platforms and all the browsers on those platforms (for instance the mozilla plugin and IE plugin for Win32.)
The source for the unix plugin is available in the VM SVN source tree (at http://squeakvm.org/) but I did not see the source for the plugins for other platforms and other browsers.

brad


 -- Kim


At 8:41 AM -0700 6/2/06, Brad Fuller wrote:
Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Am 02.06.2006 um 02:07 schrieb Brad Fuller:

 

Sorry for double posting, I figure that not all squeakland people 
visit squeak-dev and vice versa.
   


Actually, those Squeakland people who care about those techy details 
*do* subscribe to squeak-dev. This list is intended for discussion of 
the educational use of Squeak.

 

I had a plugin question answered there so it seemed logical, especially since the plugin comes from the Squeakland download.
I'm wondering if the other plugins are proprietary... perhaps people at Squeakland.com (viewpoints, etc.) wrote the plugin?
Can anyone here at squeakland say for sure?
I've been looking at the npsqueak source at: http://squeakvm.org/ 
and have a couple of questions.
   


I'll answer on squeak-dev, though the vm-dev list might be even more 
appropriate, since many Squeak developers do fine without ever 
digging into the C support code of the VM.
 

Much obliged. I will reply there.
Still would like to know if the other plugins are proprietary or if the source is available.

brad

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