Squeak-E

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-dev-
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Brian Rice
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:54 PM
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Subject: Re: Squeak-E
>
> It appears that Rob Withers, the primary motivator of Squeak-E
> progress, has undergone some kind of lifestyle change. He lives and
> works in Seattle, where I live, and has never bothered to discuss
> with me or other local Squeakers or Smalltalkers his Squeak-E work.
> In fact, I had forgotten that he lived in town at all. So I was
> surprised, just a couple of weeks ago, I saw (and bought a lot of)
> his CS and Smalltalk books at a used-bookstore that is a few blocks
> from my house. I knew they were his because there were receipts in
> them that he had signed, and emails from him.
>
> I sent him an email asking him how he's doing and what he plans to do
> or not do, but haven't received a response. It appears that Squeak-E
> has been orphaned, and that whoever is interested should just start
> making new changes and using Monticello to manage it (much of the
> code is on SqueakSource).
>
> http://www.squeaksource.com/squeakelib.html
>
> I notice that he HAS made some changes recently (see the RSS page). I
> really just don't know what's going on. A mutual friend of ours has
> told me he will ask him, and I will follow up if anything is discovered.
>
> On Feb 8, 2006, at 5:27 PM, Mariano Montone wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > I want to know what's the state of Squeak-E. I have already seen
> > the wiki and there's some code, but I have to recompile the vm.
> > Does anyone have or knows how to get a precompiled Squeak-E VM +
> > Image (I'm working on Windows right now).
> > Besides, the mailing list seems to be silent. What happend to the
> > project?
> >
> > Thanks, Mariano
>
> --
> -Brian
> http://tunes.org/~water/brice.vcf

> Well, it would have been courteous for him to say so on his own. I
> don't mind saying that I feel snubbed, regardless of his intentions,
> since we've discussed such coding issues online before. He *knows*
> that I'm working on E issues in Slate.
>
> He didn't reply on the Squeak-E list, either, and there are a lot of
> people, myself included, who want to move the project faster and would
> get more work done knowing that he doesn't intend to work on it as
> anything more than an infrequent hobby.
>
> The last message on Squeak-E from before the question I replied to is
> over a year ago, and about E, not Squeak-E. The last Squeak-E message
> from him in my archives is from 2003; there are a few messages on the
> main squeak list from him from 2004 and 2005 but they are unrelated. I
> think I can safely say that the project should involve anyone who is
> interested now, rather than everyone (including Rob) assuming that Rob
> owns it when he clearly (but not publicly stated that) does not
> consider it a priority at all.
>
> I do apologize for assuming so much, but it was quite alarming to see
> almost two dozen books materialize on a random bookstore's shelves
> that belong to someone you thought would like to chat over said
> subjects.
>
> On Mar 9, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:
>
>> Ahem,
>>
>> Rob is currently helping us with our cryptography group, and as far
>> as I
>> know is still working on Squeak-E.
>>
>> A quote from Rob: "I work on SqueakElib, my squeak priority, only on
>> an
>> occasional schedule when the moon is in the proper phase and
>> astrological
>> signs point toward squeaky activities...once every 6 months or so."
>>
>> I really don't think it necessary to assume details of someone's life
>> by the
>> books they no longer use, or the fact that they don't return an email.
>>
>> Rob's a great guy, and I'm sure he will provide an update himself
>> about
>> Squeak-E.
>>
>> Ron Teitelbaum
>> Squeak Cryptography Team Leader
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:squeak-dev-
>>> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Brian Rice
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:54 PM
>>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
>>> Subject: Re: Squeak-E
>>>
>>> It appears that Rob Withers, the primary motivator of Squeak-E
>>> progress, has undergone some kind of lifestyle change. He lives and
>>> works in Seattle, where I live, and has never bothered to discuss
>>> with me or other local Squeakers or Smalltalkers his Squeak-E work.
>>> In fact, I had forgotten that he lived in town at all. So I was
>>> surprised, just a couple of weeks ago, I saw (and bought a lot of)
>>> his CS and Smalltalk books at a used-bookstore that is a few blocks
>>> from my house. I knew they were his because there were receipts in
>>> them that he had signed, and emails from him.
>>>
>>> I sent him an email asking him how he's doing and what he plans to do
>>> or not do, but haven't received a response. It appears that Squeak-E
>>> has been orphaned, and that whoever is interested should just start
>>> making new changes and using Monticello to manage it (much of the
>>> code is on SqueakSource).
>>>
>>> http://www.squeaksource.com/squeakelib.html
>>>
>>> I notice that he HAS made some changes recently (see the RSS page). I
>>> really just don't know what's going on. A mutual friend of ours has
>>> told me he will ask him, and I will follow up if anything is
>>> discovered.
>>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2006, at 5:27 PM, Mariano Montone wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> I want to know what's the state of Squeak-E. I have already seen
>>>> the wiki and there's some code, but I have to recompile the vm.
>>>> Does anyone have or knows how to get a precompiled Squeak-E VM +
>>>> Image (I'm working on Windows right now).
>>>> Besides, the mailing list seems to be silent. What happend to the
>>>> project?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Mariano
>>>
>>> --
>>> -Brian
>>> http://tunes.org/~water/brice.vcf
>>
>>
>
> --
> -Brian
> http://tunes.org/~water/brice.vcf
>
>