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Bruce O'Neel-2

Re: Squeak Oversight Board Election 2021

What!?!?! There is still time left?

Ok, I'll throw my hat in the ring as well.

I have used Squeak for 20 some years for fun projects. Before that for a few glorious hours I had my hands on a Tex 4404 Smalltalk system and lusted for a Smalltalk of my own ever since.

My involvement has been to keep the planet Squeak site somewhat up to date and to keep debug Linux VM build errors.

cheers

bruce

23 April 2021 19:31 tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:

I want to add emphasis to a few words from John-Reed

> On 2021-04-23, at 10:22 AM, John-Reed Maffeo wrote:
>
> I encourage anyone who is interested in Squeak to consider becoming a board member. It is a good way to learn more about Squeak as a project, and help keep development moving forward.

Please don't think there is some need to be a Soopa-Uber-Hacker of Squeak in order to be a valuable Board member. If you love Squeak, if you have some time and effort you can spare to help keep the community going, then you'd be an asset.

tim
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Chris Muller-3

Re: Squeak Oversight Board Election 2021

Okay, now that we have 7 candidates, there's no need for me to run anymore. Please remove me from the list of candidates.

- Chris

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 12:48 PM Bruce O'Neel <[hidden email]> wrote:

What!?!?! There is still time left?

Ok, I'll throw my hat in the ring as well.

I have used Squeak for 20 some years for fun projects. Before that for a few glorious hours I had my hands on a Tex 4404 Smalltalk system and lusted for a Smalltalk of my own ever since.

My involvement has been to keep the planet Squeak site somewhat up to date and to keep debug Linux VM build errors.

cheers

bruce

23 April 2021 19:31 tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
I want to add emphasis to a few words from John-Reed

> On 2021-04-23, at 10:22 AM, John-Reed Maffeo wrote:
>
> I encourage anyone who is interested in Squeak to consider becoming a board member. It is a good way to learn more about Squeak as a project, and help keep development moving forward.

Please don't think there is some need to be a Soopa-Uber-Hacker of Squeak in order to be a valuable Board member. If you love Squeak, if you have some time and effort you can spare to help keep the community going, then you'd be an asset.

tim
--
tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
Oxymorons: Resident alien

Chris Muller-3

Re: Squeak Oversight Board Election 2021

In reply to this post by Patrick R.

The schedule and process are as follows:

Now until Friday 16th of April 2021, 18.00 UTC: Nominations of SOB members and campaigning!
Friday 16th of April 2021, 18.00 UTC: Candidate list is finalized.
Friday 16th of April 2021, 19.00 UTC: Online election starts.

I had hurried to announce myself to make it in time for the above date so that we wouldn't have only 6 candidates, but now someone's candidacy was accepted a whole week later, I don't need to..

- Chris

Ron Teitelbaum

Re: Squeak Oversight Board Election 2021

In reply to this post by Chris Muller-3

Hi Chris,

Now that voting has started there is no way to remove your name. Plus people have already voted and I'm sure some have already voted for you. You can suggest that people not vote for you but we don't have rules for this situation. The options are:

1. to exclude your name if you are elected and seat the 8th person on the list

2. You can resign after being elected and we would have 6 board members

3. We can seat the first 5 board members since our rules state that we should have an odd number.

Board Seats

The squeak community does its best to elect 7 board members each year. In the event that less than 7 board members run or less than 7 are elected (see Voting for None of the Below) the next largest ODD number of board members will be elected to the board. The requirement for an ODD number of seats is to ensure that tie votes can be broken. For example, if 7 candidates run and 6 are elected, the highest 5 ranking board members will serve on the board.

I would prefer option 1 because it makes the most sense to me. It would be good to get feedback from the Squeak communities. If everyone agrees we can just ignore Chris's name on the ballot.

All the best,

Ron Teitelbaum

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:17 PM Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:

Okay, now that we have 7 candidates, there's no need for me to run anymore. Please remove me from the list of candidates.

- Chris

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 12:48 PM Bruce O'Neel <[hidden email]> wrote:

What!?!?! There is still time left?

Ok, I'll throw my hat in the ring as well.

I have used Squeak for 20 some years for fun projects. Before that for a few glorious hours I had my hands on a Tex 4404 Smalltalk system and lusted for a Smalltalk of my own ever since.

My involvement has been to keep the planet Squeak site somewhat up to date and to keep debug Linux VM build errors.

cheers

bruce

23 April 2021 19:31 tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
I want to add emphasis to a few words from John-Reed

> On 2021-04-23, at 10:22 AM, John-Reed Maffeo wrote:
>
> I encourage anyone who is interested in Squeak to consider becoming a board member. It is a good way to learn more about Squeak as a project, and help keep development moving forward.

Please don't think there is some need to be a Soopa-Uber-Hacker of Squeak in order to be a valuable Board member. If you love Squeak, if you have some time and effort you can spare to help keep the community going, then you'd be an asset.

tim
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tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
Oxymorons: Resident alien

Nicolas Cellier

Re: Squeak Oversight Board Election 2021

+1 for solution 1)
7 members is a good number

Le lun. 26 avr. 2021 à 20:58, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> a écrit :

>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Now that voting has started there is no way to remove your name. Plus people have already voted and I'm sure some have already voted for you. You can suggest that people not vote for you but we don't have rules for this situation. The options are:
> 1. to exclude your name if you are elected and seat the 8th person on the list
> 2. You can resign after being elected and we would have 6 board members
> 3. We can seat the first 5 board members since our rules state that we should have an odd number.
>
> Board Seats
>
> The squeak community does its best to elect 7 board members each year. In the event that less than 7 board members run or less than 7 are elected (see Voting for None of the Below) the next largest ODD number of board members will be elected to the board. The requirement for an ODD number of seats is to ensure that tie votes can be broken. For example, if 7 candidates run and 6 are elected, the highest 5 ranking board members will serve on the board.
>
> I would prefer option 1 because it makes the most sense to me. It would be good to get feedback from the Squeak communities. If everyone agrees we can just ignore Chris's name on the ballot.
>
> All the best,
>
> Ron Teitelbaum
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:17 PM Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Okay, now that we have 7 candidates, there's no need for me to run anymore. Please remove me from the list of candidates.
>>
>> - Chris
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 12:48 PM Bruce O'Neel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> What!?!?! There is still time left?
>>>
>>> Ok, I'll throw my hat in the ring as well.
>>>
>>> I have used Squeak for 20 some years for fun projects. Before that for a few glorious hours I had my hands on a Tex 4404 Smalltalk system and lusted for a Smalltalk of my own ever since.
>>>
>>> My involvement has been to keep the planet Squeak site somewhat up to date and to keep debug Linux VM build errors.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> bruce
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 23 April 2021 19:31 tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to add emphasis to a few words from John-Reed
>>>
>>> > On 2021-04-23, at 10:22 AM, John-Reed Maffeo wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I encourage anyone who is interested in Squeak to consider becoming a board member. It is a good way to learn more about Squeak as a project, and help keep development moving forward.
>>>
>>> Please don't think there is some need to be a Soopa-Uber-Hacker of Squeak in order to be a valuable Board member. If you love Squeak, if you have some time and effort you can spare to help keep the community going, then you'd be an asset.
>>>
>>> tim
>>> --
>>> tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
>>> Oxymorons: Resident alien
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Bruce O'Neel-2

Re: Squeak Oversight Board Election 2021

In reply to this post by Ron Teitelbaum

Hi all,

Chris, please don't drop out because I signed up. I'm sure you would make an excellent board member.

Thanks.

bruce

26 April 2021 20:57 Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Chris,

Now that voting has started there is no way to remove your name. Plus people have already voted and I'm sure some have already voted for you. You can suggest that people not vote for you but we don't have rules for this situation. The options are:
1. to exclude your name if you are elected and seat the 8th person on the list
2. You can resign after being elected and we would have 6 board members
3. We can seat the first 5 board members since our rules state that we should have an odd number.
Board Seats
The squeak community does its best to elect 7 board members each year. In the event that less than 7 board members run or less than 7 are elected (see Voting for None of the Below) the next largest ODD number of board members will be elected to the board. The requirement for an ODD number of seats is to ensure that tie votes can be broken. For example, if 7 candidates run and 6 are elected, the highest 5 ranking board members will serve on the board.

I would prefer option 1 because it makes the most sense to me. It would be good to get feedback from the Squeak communities. If everyone agrees we can just ignore Chris's name on the ballot.

All the best,

Ron Teitelbaum

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:17 PM Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:
Okay, now that we have 7 candidates, there's no need for me to run anymore. Please remove me from the list of candidates.

- Chris

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 12:48 PM Bruce O'Neel <[hidden email]> wrote:

What!?!?! There is still time left?

Ok, I'll throw my hat in the ring as well.

I have used Squeak for 20 some years for fun projects. Before that for a few glorious hours I had my hands on a Tex 4404 Smalltalk system and lusted for a Smalltalk of my own ever since.

My involvement has been to keep the planet Squeak site somewhat up to date and to keep debug Linux VM build errors.

cheers

bruce

23 April 2021 19:31 tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
I want to add emphasis to a few words from John-Reed

> On 2021-04-23, at 10:22 AM, John-Reed Maffeo wrote:
>
> I encourage anyone who is interested in Squeak to consider becoming a board member. It is a good way to learn more about Squeak as a project, and help keep development moving forward.

Please don't think there is some need to be a Soopa-Uber-Hacker of Squeak in order to be a valuable Board member. If you love Squeak, if you have some time and effort you can spare to help keep the community going, then you'd be an asset.

tim
--
tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
Oxymorons: Resident alien

<>

Ron Teitelbaum

Re: Squeak Oversight Board Election 2021

In reply to this post by Ron Teitelbaum

Hi Vannessa,

Looks like we agree!

Just to clarify the dates changed because at the last minute we were told that everyone that votes needed to first opt-in to receiving email from CIVS to vote. We discussed this and told the community and modified the dates to extend the election for 1 week to allow everyone that wanted to vote to opt-in. We also at that time did not have 7 candidates so we felt that it was reasonable to extend to allow people to opt-in and to give us more time to encourage participation. See: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2021-April/214952.html>

We probably should have done that more and made it more visible.

All the best,

Ron Teitelbaum

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 2:57 PM Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Chris,

Now that voting has started there is no way to remove your name. Plus people have already voted and I'm sure some have already voted for you. You can suggest that people not vote for you but we don't have rules for this situation. The options are:
1. to exclude your name if you are elected and seat the 8th person on the list
2. You can resign after being elected and we would have 6 board members
3. We can seat the first 5 board members since our rules state that we should have an odd number.
Board Seats
The squeak community does its best to elect 7 board members each year. In the event that less than 7 board members run or less than 7 are elected (see Voting for None of the Below) the next largest ODD number of board members will be elected to the board. The requirement for an ODD number of seats is to ensure that tie votes can be broken. For example, if 7 candidates run and 6 are elected, the highest 5 ranking board members will serve on the board.

I would prefer option 1 because it makes the most sense to me. It would be good to get feedback from the Squeak communities. If everyone agrees we can just ignore Chris's name on the ballot.

All the best,

Ron Teitelbaum

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:17 PM Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:
Okay, now that we have 7 candidates, there's no need for me to run anymore. Please remove me from the list of candidates.

- Chris

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 12:48 PM Bruce O'Neel <[hidden email]> wrote:

What!?!?! There is still time left?

Ok, I'll throw my hat in the ring as well.

I have used Squeak for 20 some years for fun projects. Before that for a few glorious hours I had my hands on a Tex 4404 Smalltalk system and lusted for a Smalltalk of my own ever since.

My involvement has been to keep the planet Squeak site somewhat up to date and to keep debug Linux VM build errors.

cheers

bruce

23 April 2021 19:31 tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
I want to add emphasis to a few words from John-Reed

> On 2021-04-23, at 10:22 AM, John-Reed Maffeo wrote:
>
> I encourage anyone who is interested in Squeak to consider becoming a board member. It is a good way to learn more about Squeak as a project, and help keep development moving forward.

Please don't think there is some need to be a Soopa-Uber-Hacker of Squeak in order to be a valuable Board member. If you love Squeak, if you have some time and effort you can spare to help keep the community going, then you'd be an asset.

tim
--
tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
Oxymorons: Resident alien

codefrau

Re: Squeak Oversight Board Election 2021

Ah I remember now. All good :)

Vanessa

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 12:04 PM Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Vannessa,

Looks like we agree!

Just to clarify the dates changed because at the last minute we were told that everyone that votes needed to first opt-in to receiving email from CIVS to vote. We discussed this and told the community and modified the dates to extend the election for 1 week to allow everyone that wanted to vote to opt-in. We also at that time did not have 7 candidates so we felt that it was reasonable to extend to allow people to opt-in and to give us more time to encourage participation. See: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2021-April/214952.html>

We probably should have done that more and made it more visible.

All the best,

Ron Teitelbaum

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 2:57 PM Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Chris,

Now that voting has started there is no way to remove your name. Plus people have already voted and I'm sure some have already voted for you. You can suggest that people not vote for you but we don't have rules for this situation. The options are:
1. to exclude your name if you are elected and seat the 8th person on the list
2. You can resign after being elected and we would have 6 board members
3. We can seat the first 5 board members since our rules state that we should have an odd number.
Board Seats
The squeak community does its best to elect 7 board members each year. In the event that less than 7 board members run or less than 7 are elected (see Voting for None of the Below) the next largest ODD number of board members will be elected to the board. The requirement for an ODD number of seats is to ensure that tie votes can be broken. For example, if 7 candidates run and 6 are elected, the highest 5 ranking board members will serve on the board.

I would prefer option 1 because it makes the most sense to me. It would be good to get feedback from the Squeak communities. If everyone agrees we can just ignore Chris's name on the ballot.

All the best,

Ron Teitelbaum

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:17 PM Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:
Okay, now that we have 7 candidates, there's no need for me to run anymore. Please remove me from the list of candidates.

- Chris

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 12:48 PM Bruce O'Neel <[hidden email]> wrote:

What!?!?! There is still time left?

Ok, I'll throw my hat in the ring as well.

I have used Squeak for 20 some years for fun projects. Before that for a few glorious hours I had my hands on a Tex 4404 Smalltalk system and lusted for a Smalltalk of my own ever since.

My involvement has been to keep the planet Squeak site somewhat up to date and to keep debug Linux VM build errors.

cheers

bruce

23 April 2021 19:31 tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
I want to add emphasis to a few words from John-Reed

> On 2021-04-23, at 10:22 AM, John-Reed Maffeo wrote:
>
> I encourage anyone who is interested in Squeak to consider becoming a board member. It is a good way to learn more about Squeak as a project, and help keep development moving forward.

Please don't think there is some need to be a Soopa-Uber-Hacker of Squeak in order to be a valuable Board member. If you love Squeak, if you have some time and effort you can spare to help keep the community going, then you'd be an asset.

tim
--
tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
Oxymorons: Resident alien

Chris Muller-4

Re: Squeak Oversight Board Election 2021

In reply to this post by Bruce O'Neel-2

:) Thanks Bruce. However, this year I want to focus 100% on getting my own stuff caught up with the rest of Squeak. I'm glad you decided to run.

- Chris

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 2:01 PM Bruce O'Neel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi all,

Chris, please don't drop out because I signed up. I'm sure you would make an excellent board member.

Thanks.

bruce

26 April 2021 20:57 Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Chris,

Now that voting has started there is no way to remove your name. Plus people have already voted and I'm sure some have already voted for you. You can suggest that people not vote for you but we don't have rules for this situation. The options are:
1. to exclude your name if you are elected and seat the 8th person on the list
2. You can resign after being elected and we would have 6 board members
3. We can seat the first 5 board members since our rules state that we should have an odd number.
Board Seats
The squeak community does its best to elect 7 board members each year. In the event that less than 7 board members run or less than 7 are elected (see Voting for None of the Below) the next largest ODD number of board members will be elected to the board. The requirement for an ODD number of seats is to ensure that tie votes can be broken. For example, if 7 candidates run and 6 are elected, the highest 5 ranking board members will serve on the board.

I would prefer option 1 because it makes the most sense to me. It would be good to get feedback from the Squeak communities. If everyone agrees we can just ignore Chris's name on the ballot.

All the best,

Ron Teitelbaum

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:17 PM Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:
Okay, now that we have 7 candidates, there's no need for me to run anymore. Please remove me from the list of candidates.

- Chris

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 12:48 PM Bruce O'Neel <[hidden email]> wrote:

What!?!?! There is still time left?

Ok, I'll throw my hat in the ring as well.

I have used Squeak for 20 some years for fun projects. Before that for a few glorious hours I had my hands on a Tex 4404 Smalltalk system and lusted for a Smalltalk of my own ever since.

My involvement has been to keep the planet Squeak site somewhat up to date and to keep debug Linux VM build errors.

cheers

bruce

23 April 2021 19:31 tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
I want to add emphasis to a few words from John-Reed

> On 2021-04-23, at 10:22 AM, John-Reed Maffeo wrote:
>
> I encourage anyone who is interested in Squeak to consider becoming a board member. It is a good way to learn more about Squeak as a project, and help keep development moving forward.

Please don't think there is some need to be a Soopa-Uber-Hacker of Squeak in order to be a valuable Board member. If you love Squeak, if you have some time and effort you can spare to help keep the community going, then you'd be an asset.

tim
--
tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
Oxymorons: Resident alien

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Tony Garnock-Jones-5

Re: Squeak Oversight Board Election 2021

In reply to this post by Ron Teitelbaum

On 4/26/21 8:57 PM, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:
> The options are:
> 1. to exclude your name if you are elected and seat the 8th person on
> the list

> I would prefer option 1 because it makes the most sense to me.

Me too. +1 to option 1.

Tony

Jakob Reschke

Re: Squeak Oversight Board Election 2021

Option 1 please.

Am Mo., 26. Apr. 2021 um 22:52 Uhr schrieb Tony Garnock-Jones
<[hidden email]>:

>
> On 4/26/21 8:57 PM, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:
> > The options are:
> > 1. to exclude your name if you are elected and seat the 8th person on
> > the list
>
> > I would prefer option 1 because it makes the most sense to me.
>
> Me too. +1 to option 1.
>
> Tony
>