-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hello, Here's some news on Squeak on "OpenIndiana". OpenIndiana is an illumos based operating system derived from OpenSolaris; Current upgrades in the repository, http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/en/index.shtml squeak-4 : version 4.19.5 squeak-5 : version 5.0.2945 There are packages for 'headless' (-nodisplay) operation and with GUI. I've made up the version 5.0.2945 myself this corresponds roughly to VM Maker: VMMaker.oscog-eem.2945 This is because normally there is a 3 digit version number, but for OpenSmalltalk VM I just use the number 5.0.2945. Special thanks to everybody in the "Squeak" and "opensmalltalk-vm" team. Thanks, David Stes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJgKUmSAAoJEAwpOKXMq1MaVh4IAJtxIumLVPANaFvcq7EXuHtw 1VRYnkdlessPYq05efp3sl2PV5fRGXMINCB4ZQKHjrzppoisEtX2BNql5mEF6B+A n24lOWC0Df7C+4wjoXYaBosswLa3y6wzLh4l8nDjECLEaBM9MjE9kkmhUUt8Ap4R iEdwad+QfAHTQpey5AfNVWIxxdZuKPv5ym4PITlIH8y1XImSTxwjedLbcJvsmO2u DeRMz6mu0JFg29cNMbh4bszgn8kVQKRB546KTKuxMaHkoed5435W3od91iXjHmed j6Ykgxds7H0EU39BsBiElN3PH7Zbd1KmkVb0o9dVPHb8amGH5dPFuoDOEyFnhAQ= =Z4FX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
Hello David, Thanks for the update. On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 05:04:17PM +0100, [hidden email] wrote: > > Hello, > > Here's some news on Squeak on "OpenIndiana". > > OpenIndiana is an illumos based operating system derived from OpenSolaris; > > Current upgrades in the repository, > > http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/en/index.shtml > > squeak-4 : version 4.19.5 > squeak-5 : version 5.0.2945 Are users able to load both "squeak-4" and "squeak-5" on the same machine? If there are issues, I can share the shell script that I use to resolve naming conflicts. Dave > > There are packages for 'headless' (-nodisplay) operation and with GUI. > > I've made up the version 5.0.2945 myself this corresponds roughly to > VM Maker: VMMaker.oscog-eem.2945 > > This is because normally there is a 3 digit version number, but for > OpenSmalltalk VM I just use the number 5.0.2945. > > Special thanks to everybody in the "Squeak" and "opensmalltalk-vm" team. > > Thanks, > David Stes > |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 > Are users able to load both "squeak-4" and "squeak-5" on the same > machine? If there are issues, I can share the shell script that I > use to resolve naming conflicts. Yes, both packages can be installed at the same time. The packages are also delivered in both 32bit and 64bit (but only Intel/AMD, not SPARC). The packaging uses "mediators" which is something that can be used to have multiple versions of some system installed. For example if I have squeak-4 installed (medatior version: 4), and then install squeak-5 it changes version and implementation: Changed mediators: mediator squeak: version: 4 (system default) -> 5 (system default) implementation: None -> cog-spur (system default) So the mediator squeak is a property of the packages, to have multiple "builds" or "variations" of the same package installed. I am not building debug or profile VMs, but for example if a debug VM would be built, then it could set the mediator to some value, so that both the non-debug and the debug VM can be installed together. David Stes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJgKsAeAAoJEAwpOKXMq1Ma2RoIAJFiPzqJF1SkShwR6cGOG3tU 8eHf/6r6pvOkQHZVZdW/+NKbDLbQiTZBrzvvQO8UxARTem2QDlfGoWX0bZ66bjKU T7iqqI2OgCKd1QEsH4jpD/TZTa7gTzeGTB/CkLvKoXKMRmrR56a8jacDgZOeVlTw asC/gjiTpB+S551AXSvRhTtANUUUYJFusGA+DnJVKwFGaDCMLMcyu4LHDxMbj3rI Bxt16S8b3B/QEAcY34/QR9kW6qlH0SaeCzsRMRMbeJIkpDfo2w3p4x2Xr2/zUmhB f/AQWHK8rYN1yti9985Cj0YpaNCkHFfyxBcPfaOrATbiHD7/fUgtJaYB+t94+9U= =Mpqd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 More info also at the webpage on the OpenIndiana website : http://docs.openindiana.org/handbook/community/squeak/index.html Regards, David Stes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJgMAdQAAoJEAwpOKXMq1MaNGIH+wXFOAVBUt9vdq8vaZhRt1Jv b/+Pr1JTPe3Z34UJGPlJUBFJPKqyue4y1SULmPiYCo5ABhUBNx04XIle6P/5i3nS LPaWEjq2AcHY42N4zKfDi7sl3BUb/EzVSctx8K5LGpv1z9c+EeCkwHt9gtZQBk6N lWi3HI5vn0PBhF9UvITs9z4dxIL/5vAwX+xNKdCFZv8Ztu9uahO9DHMjtI0I373u d92w5VHIOzw9eNMX/2YX/0ByJsLW/rp0Zx3iPubOqr0Uu6L4HkXRp0Hn2PV9zHOs 8ToSGEMctM4M7v2cWXP3j6sD1JjqN51dBPKVW6xOze4zPWpbZSnLZSOZTGv0BkQ= =ffnX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
Hi David, > On Feb 19, 2021, at 10:47 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > > More info also at the webpage on the OpenIndiana website : > > http://docs.openindiana.org/handbook/community/squeak/index.html Super cool. I would like to see “ The squeak-4 package corresponds to the classic virtual machine (VM). The squeak-5 packages are OpenSmalltalk based virtual machines, where squeak-5 is the OpenSmalltalk stack VM and squeak-5c is the OpenSmalltalk cog VM.” extended with something like “The relative performance of these virtual machines is approximately 1 to 1.5 to 15.” > Regards, > David Stes > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJgMAdQAAoJEAwpOKXMq1MaNGIH+wXFOAVBUt9vdq8vaZhRt1Jv > b/+Pr1JTPe3Z34UJGPlJUBFJPKqyue4y1SULmPiYCo5ABhUBNx04XIle6P/5i3nS > LPaWEjq2AcHY42N4zKfDi7sl3BUb/EzVSctx8K5LGpv1z9c+EeCkwHt9gtZQBk6N > lWi3HI5vn0PBhF9UvITs9z4dxIL/5vAwX+xNKdCFZv8Ztu9uahO9DHMjtI0I373u > d92w5VHIOzw9eNMX/2YX/0ByJsLW/rp0Zx3iPubOqr0Uu6L4HkXRp0Hn2PV9zHOs > 8ToSGEMctM4M7v2cWXP3j6sD1JjqN51dBPKVW6xOze4zPWpbZSnLZSOZTGv0BkQ= > =ffnX > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi, Related to additional information such as: > "The relative performance of these virtual machines is approximately 1 to 1.5 to 15." Under their github.com openindiana webpage they accept pull requests (PR's) for the documentation so I suppose that you can create a PR , adding whatever information is considered appropriate. Regards, David Stes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJgMladAAoJEAwpOKXMq1MagQ8H/A9WD9kBZIh82ZZXI5xLtymS rnjFeZYBcyb9DDyY4h1cMhJMdEVlhn0q5p2g6XmDLX/2wyydQkPNIPTD6pMsaguE EowSNt/MNXLCmVQ7rEC/gazLzY4k6xulD9LRADJYFZ27HseLmC/66UPvf3162655 WOMdsD1k1umWjft8swUcNMoazfTB70J1msGJiTOc4u6lxj9xQKwo6guObbOm4tZl h2w50Avx7jHP2IttxK+Q8xGcdwcXMIzEoOsxWjvgQlPmMclHwwD88kNXmS8ZPnoD 1m1JYME3Woz6aO5/i97vBC5tXSJGyW9iU+yVz74gt6i7tkLIn/Hvav8S14i+EkI= =fkQw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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