Squeak download stats?

Greetings,

FWIW, I download beta/gamma versions about once a month to test.  Those
that prove stable get my influx of current work for day to day use.  I
download the official version and move to it if it proves stable for my
uses until about the middle of the next beta cycle.

I also have a couple of friends that I pass the stable specialized images
on to about once a year.

A couple of other people I know pull the distribution for Windows and/or
Linux when I let them know there is an official upgrade.

Thanks again for a great place to think and learn,
tap

Thanks. I'll tell my friend that Squeak currently has one user :-)

More seriously, we really don't have any stats for ftp.squeak.org?

Cheers,
   - Andreas


Thomas A Petersen wrote:

Hi!

> Thanks. I'll tell my friend that Squeak currently has one user :-)
>
> More seriously, we really don't have any stats for ftp.squeak.org?

Can't ssh right now, but I would presume there are log files to check -
both for HTTP and for FTP, right?

Btw, we could also add some logging to SM. Ehm... it might even be sitting
behind Apache right now (was set up so long ago I don't remember) and if
Apache has logging enabled then we could probably see all "update map"
requests - which should be an interesting key to how many active users we
have - compared to just checking downloads. Of course, all users don't use
SM - but I would presume most *developers* do at least.

> Cheers,
>    - Andreas

regards, Göran

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:13:24 +0100, G"oran Krampe wrote:
> Hi!
> Andreas wrote:
>> Thanks. I'll tell my friend that Squeak currently has one user :-)
>>
>> More seriously, we really don't have any stats for ftp.squeak.org?
>
> Can't ssh right now, but I would presume there are log files to check -
> both for HTTP and for FTP, right?
>

I'm very interested in the log files for just www.squeak.org, have done  
some Google AdWords $$ experiments which wait for wrap up and then to  
share the experience.

Thanks in advance!

/Klaus

Hi Andreas,

> More seriously, we really don't have any stats for ftp.squeak.org?

I have squeakvm.org logs going back 12 months, during which time there were 30,000 downloads of .tar.gz archives from the site.  I'm not sure offhand what proportion of them were due to search bots or how many unique IPs were involved.  I can count the .zips for you, if you like, or just look in /var/log/apache2 for yourself.

If squeak.org runs on apache and uses logrotate to manage /var/log then there should be 12 months of download information from there too.  The programs "webalizer" and "analog" make it easy to extract the information you're after from the access.log.* files.

There are also installations via the several Linux distributions that offer the Unix version of Squeak.  I can't think of any way to estimate the stats for those.  Plus, thanks to Bert et al, Squeak shipped with the OLPC.  I can't think of any way to know how many OLPC users should be added to the total.

(BTW: having access to download statistic is another reason I'm not fond of 'third-party' hosting.)

Cheers,
Ian

Ian Piumarta wrote:

> There are also installations via the several Linux distributions that offer the Unix
> version of Squeak.  I can't think of any way to estimate the stats for those.

Debian and derivatives (like Ubuntu) run 'popularity-contest'.

For example 999 participating Ubuntu PCs have run squeak-vm in the
last 30 days (narrowly beating ghc6 Haskell) out of perhaps 190000
voters.

http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
http://popcon.debian.org/