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Squeak - for a different Summer of Code!

Giovanni Corriga
Hi all,

as you may know, Squeak has been accepted as a mentoring organization
for the Google Summer of Code 2007 program.

Squeak is an open source dialect of Smalltalk, a pure OO programming
language that takes object orientation principles to their limits.
Development in Squeak will be quite different from what you may
experience in Java, C#, Ruby or Python, yet it will be very fulfilling.

So, why not Squeak for the Summer of Code?

Squeak will offer you:
a productive environment to develop your ideas - a great community
a first class mentoring program - appreciation and value for your work

Possible project areas include:
Virtual Machine - Compiler
User Interface - OS Integration
Development and End-user Tools
The Seaside Web Framework
and many more!


Squeak - for a different Summer of Code!

If you're interested, contact us:
email [hidden email]
web   http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/SummerOfCode
IRC   #squeak on Freenode.org


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Re: Squeak - for a different Summer of Code!

Serge Stinckwich-4
Giovanni Corriga a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> as you may know, Squeak has been accepted as a mentoring organization
> for the Google Summer of Code 2007 program.


Great work Giovanni !!! You did a better work than me. Last year, i had
tried to contact Google, but I had no success.

> Squeak is an open source dialect of Smalltalk, a pure OO programming
> language that takes object orientation principles to their limits.
> Development in Squeak will be quite different from what you may
> experience in Java, C#, Ruby or Python, yet it will be very fulfilling.
>
> So, why not Squeak for the Summer of Code?
>
> Squeak will offer you:
> a productive environment to develop your ideas - a great community
> a first class mentoring program - appreciation and value for your work
>
> Possible project areas include:
> Virtual Machine - Compiler
> User Interface - OS Integration
> Development and End-user Tools
> The Seaside Web Framework
> and many more!

Is the list of SOC projects close ? I would to propose to work on a
better multilingual support for Squeak. At the moment, it's difficult to
translate the Squeak interface, because there is several Squeak image
(Squeakland, 3.9, OLPC, ...). I think we could improve Yoshiki's work in
order to have a central repository for the translations (maybe something
like Rosetta : https://launchpad.net/rosetta) and a more modular
approach in order to attach messages catalog to packages and not to the
whole image.

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Dr. Serge Stinckwich                                     OOOOOOOO
Université de Caen>CNRS UMR 6072>GREYC>MAD               OOESUGOO
http://purl.org/net/SergeStinckwich                       oooooo
Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]   \  /
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RE: Re: Squeak - for a different Summer of Code!

Ron Teitelbaum
http://code.google.com/soc/ 

Ron

> -----Original Message-----
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> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Serge Stinckwich
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 4:12 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: [hidden email]; squeak-
> [hidden email]
> Subject: [Newbies] Re: Squeak - for a different Summer of Code!
>
> Giovanni Corriga a écrit :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > as you may know, Squeak has been accepted as a mentoring organization
> > for the Google Summer of Code 2007 program.
>
>
> Great work Giovanni !!! You did a better work than me. Last year, i had
> tried to contact Google, but I had no success.
>
> > Squeak is an open source dialect of Smalltalk, a pure OO programming
> > language that takes object orientation principles to their limits.
> > Development in Squeak will be quite different from what you may
> > experience in Java, C#, Ruby or Python, yet it will be very fulfilling.
> >
> > So, why not Squeak for the Summer of Code?
> >
> > Squeak will offer you:
> > a productive environment to develop your ideas - a great community
> > a first class mentoring program - appreciation and value for your work
> >
> > Possible project areas include:
> > Virtual Machine - Compiler
> > User Interface - OS Integration
> > Development and End-user Tools
> > The Seaside Web Framework
> > and many more!
>
> Is the list of SOC projects close ? I would to propose to work on a
> better multilingual support for Squeak. At the moment, it's difficult to
> translate the Squeak interface, because there is several Squeak image
> (Squeakland, 3.9, OLPC, ...). I think we could improve Yoshiki's work in
> order to have a central repository for the translations (maybe something
> like Rosetta : https://launchpad.net/rosetta) and a more modular
> approach in order to attach messages catalog to packages and not to the
> whole image.
>
> --                                                         oooo
> Dr. Serge Stinckwich                                     OOOOOOOO
> Université de Caen>CNRS UMR 6072>GREYC>MAD               OOESUGOO
> http://purl.org/net/SergeStinckwich                       oooooo
> Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]   \  /
>                                                              ##
>
>
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Re: Re: Squeak - for a different Summer of Code!

Michael Davies-2
On 16/03/07, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote:
> http://code.google.com/soc/
>
> Ron

I notice that there are projects in the SOC list for wxWidgets and
wxPython. I wonder if anyone would be prepared to mentor a student to
bring wxSqueak up to date with 3.9/3.10? I don't know if this is a
trival or a major task, but it would be a good opportunity to ensure
that any work on wxWidgets helps resolve any integration issues that
wxSqueak has (if any).

I've played with wxSqueak and thought that it was fun to use, but
would feel happier to start using it in anger if I could just load it
in  to an image from SqueakMap.

Does anyone actually use wxSqueak? Would it be useful to make it a
"full citizen"?

Michael
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Re: Re: Squeak - for a different Summer of Code!

Giovanni Corriga
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Il giorno ven, 16/03/2007 alle 09.12 +0100, Serge Stinckwich ha scritto:
> Giovanni Corriga a écrit :

> Is the list of SOC projects close ? I would to propose to work on a
> better multilingual support for Squeak. At the moment, it's difficult to
> translate the Squeak interface, because there is several Squeak image
> (Squeakland, 3.9, OLPC, ...). I think we could improve Yoshiki's work in
> order to have a central repository for the translations (maybe something
> like Rosetta : https://launchpad.net/rosetta) and a more modular
> approach in order to attach messages catalog to packages and not to the
> whole image.

I think that as long as we don't remove the other proposals, we can add
as many project as we want. Serge, are you willing to mentor for it? If
so, please send me a message, so that I can add you to the mailing lists
etc.

        Giovanni

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Re: Re: Squeak - for a different Summer of Code!

Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi all,

I'm a newbie on Squeak and I have been using only eToys and BotsInc
environment for teaching introductory courses on Informatics. But I
think that would be nice a project which combines content creation for
the OLPC image of Squeak with the creation/adaptation of tools for
making that content more easy for authoring and localization to multiple
languages. This would be a project not centered on code but is going
from content to code and from software to "humanware" (part of the
project is using the OLPC image to create content with children of
schools). Do you think that there is a place for such proposal in SOC
(Google is a sponsor of OLPC project). ¿Some one would be willing to
mentor it?

Cheers,

Offray

Giovanni Corriga escribió:

> Il giorno ven, 16/03/2007 alle 09.12 +0100, Serge Stinckwich ha scritto:
>  
>> Giovanni Corriga a écrit :
>>    
>
>  
>> Is the list of SOC projects close ? I would to propose to work on a
>> better multilingual support for Squeak. At the moment, it's difficult to
>> translate the Squeak interface, because there is several Squeak image
>> (Squeakland, 3.9, OLPC, ...). I think we could improve Yoshiki's work in
>> order to have a central repository for the translations (maybe something
>> like Rosetta : https://launchpad.net/rosetta) and a more modular
>> approach in order to attach messages catalog to packages and not to the
>> whole image.
>>    
>
> I think that as long as we don't remove the other proposals, we can add
> as many project as we want. Serge, are you willing to mentor for it? If
> so, please send me a message, so that I can add you to the mailing lists
> etc.
>
> Giovanni
>
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Re: Re: Squeak - for a different Summer of Code!

Giovanni Corriga
Il giorno ven, 16/03/2007 alle 11.49 -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna
Cárdenas ha scritto:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm a newbie on Squeak and I have been using only eToys and BotsInc
> environment for teaching introductory courses on Informatics. But I
> think that would be nice a project which combines content creation for
> the OLPC image of Squeak with the creation/adaptation of tools for
> making that content more easy for authoring and localization to multiple
> languages. This would be a project not centered on code but is going
> from content to code and from software to "humanware" (part of the
> project is using the OLPC image to create content with children of
> schools). Do you think that there is a place for such proposal in SOC
> (Google is a sponsor of OLPC project). ¿Some one would be willing to
> mentor it?

Hi Offray,

the idea is good, but I don't know if it suits the purpose of Summer of
Code, which is to produce working code.

Aside from that, I haven't understood if you'd like to do this, and
you're looking for someone to mentor you, of if you're just proposing
the idea to see if someone wants to go with it.

        Giovanni

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Re: Re: Squeak - for a different Summer of Code!

Giovanni Corriga
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Il giorno ven, 16/03/2007 alle 14.00 +0000, Michael Davies ha scritto:

> On 16/03/07, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > http://code.google.com/soc/
> >
> > Ron
>
> I notice that there are projects in the SOC list for wxWidgets and
> wxPython. I wonder if anyone would be prepared to mentor a student to
> bring wxSqueak up to date with 3.9/3.10? I don't know if this is a
> trival or a major task, but it would be a good opportunity to ensure
> that any work on wxWidgets helps resolve any integration issues that
> wxSqueak has (if any).
>
> I've played with wxSqueak and thought that it was fun to use, but
> would feel happier to start using it in anger if I could just load it
> in  to an image from SqueakMap.
>
> Does anyone actually use wxSqueak? Would it be useful to make it a
> "full citizen"?

I don't think it would do harm, to say the least. If you're interested
in it, you should try and apply to the SoC. I could be the mentor for
this idea.

        Giovanni

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Re: Re: Squeak - for a different Summer of Code!

Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
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Hi,

Giovanni Corriga escribió:

> Il giorno ven, 16/03/2007 alle 11.49 -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna
> Cárdenas ha scritto:
>  
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm a newbie on Squeak and I have been using only eToys and BotsInc
>> environment for teaching introductory courses on Informatics. But I
>> think that would be nice a project which combines content creation for
>> the OLPC image of Squeak with the creation/adaptation of tools for
>> making that content more easy for authoring and localization to multiple
>> languages. This would be a project not centered on code but is going
>> from content to code and from software to "humanware" (part of the
>> project is using the OLPC image to create content with children of
>> schools). Do you think that there is a place for such proposal in SOC
>> (Google is a sponsor of OLPC project). ¿Some one would be willing to
>> mentor it?
>>    
>
> Hi Offray,
>
> the idea is good, but I don't know if it suits the purpose of Summer of
> Code, which is to produce working code.
>  

The idea would be to produce code to facilitate the creation of
folkloric narrative multilingual content on OLPC image. For example
Scratch has an option to make the objects say things in a balloon. In
Squeak you can make the same changing the help balloon, but you can't
make it as easy as with Scratch, and can't not say which position will
the balloon have in the screen or the translucency, or the color of the
voice (say  a character always say things in a blue voice), and I would
like to make this features eToys available for all objects, but may be
making this is to easy for the SoC.

> Aside from that, I haven't understood if you'd like to do this, and
> you're looking for someone to mentor you, of if you're just proposing
> the idea to see if someone wants to go with it.
>  

Both can work. This is something in I would like to work on even if this
doesn't fit the objective of SoC, so asking the seasoned squeaker was a
way to know how much sense made this. May be I can try to make it in the
summer vacation and ask for some pointers in the list, so I can try to
make some development and, at the same time preparing my self for
SoC2008 :-)


Cheers,

Offray
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Re: Re: Squeak - for a different Summer of Code!

Giovanni Corriga
Il giorno dom, 18/03/2007 alle 18.04 -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna
Cárdenas ha scritto:

> Hi,
>
> Giovanni Corriga escribió:
> > Il giorno ven, 16/03/2007 alle 11.49 -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna
> > Cárdenas ha scritto:
> >  
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I'm a newbie on Squeak and I have been using only eToys and BotsInc
> >> environment for teaching introductory courses on Informatics. But I
> >> think that would be nice a project which combines content creation for
> >> the OLPC image of Squeak with the creation/adaptation of tools for
> >> making that content more easy for authoring and localization to multiple
> >> languages. This would be a project not centered on code but is going
> >> from content to code and from software to "humanware" (part of the
> >> project is using the OLPC image to create content with children of
> >> schools). Do you think that there is a place for such proposal in SOC
> >> (Google is a sponsor of OLPC project). ¿Some one would be willing to
> >> mentor it?
> >>    
> >
> > Hi Offray,
> >
> > the idea is good, but I don't know if it suits the purpose of Summer of
> > Code, which is to produce working code.
> >  
>
> The idea would be to produce code to facilitate the creation of
> folkloric narrative multilingual content on OLPC image. For example
> Scratch has an option to make the objects say things in a balloon. In
> Squeak you can make the same changing the help balloon, but you can't
> make it as easy as with Scratch, and can't not say which position will
> the balloon have in the screen or the translucency, or the color of the
> voice (say  a character always say things in a blue voice), and I would
> like to make this features eToys available for all objects, but may be
> making this is to easy for the SoC.

Ok, so the code part would be prominent.

> > Aside from that, I haven't understood if you'd like to do this, and
> > you're looking for someone to mentor you, of if you're just proposing
> > the idea to see if someone wants to go with it.
> >  
>
> Both can work. This is something in I would like to work on even if this
> doesn't fit the objective of SoC, so asking the seasoned squeaker was a
> way to know how much sense made this. May be I can try to make it in the
> summer vacation and ask for some pointers in the list, so I can try to
> make some development and, at the same time preparing my self for
> SoC2008 :-)

Well, if you have the requisites, why not apply now?

        Giovanni

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Re: Re: Squeak - for a different Summer of Code!

Michael Davies-2
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On 18/03/07, Giovanni Corriga <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I don't think it would do harm, to say the least. If you're interested
> in it, you should try and apply to the SoC. I could be the mentor for
> this idea.

Sorry Giovanni, I wasn't very clear in what I typed. I'm afraid my
college years are long behind me, and I don't have the knowledge of
Squeak to act as a mentor, so all I can contribute to this process is
ideas :-(.

If you are happy to act as mentor for this idea, I'd be more than
willing to put together a project idea template, and if anyone bites,
I'm happy to help the work in any way I can. Let me know if this works
for you, either on the list or privately.

Cheers, Michael
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Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
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Hi,

Giovanni Corriga escribió:

>> Both can work. This is something in I would like to work on even if this
>> doesn't fit the objective of SoC, so asking the seasoned squeaker was a
>> way to know how much sense made this. May be I can try to make it in the
>> summer vacation and ask for some pointers in the list, so I can try to
>> make some development and, at the same time preparing my self for
>> SoC2008 :-)
>>    
>
> Well, if you have the requisites, why not apply now?
>
> Giovanni
>
>  

The most important reason this semester is time. May be next year I will
not be an student anymore... I will try to find the way. Thanks for all
your encouragement about SoC and newbies support :-)

Cheers,

Offray
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