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Squeak on DS or other nintendo devices?

stephane ducasse
Hi

I would like to know whether it makes sense or not to thikn about  
running squeak on a Nintendo
DS?

Stef

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Re: Squeak on DS or other nintendo devices?

Hans N Beck-2


 Hi Stef,

 
how do you define "make sense " :-) ? Really, for me Nintendo is a great device, it is a good mixture of simple but useful possibilities.  I code for it in Lua at the moment (www.dslua.org), and it is pure fun. What I am not so shure about if related to Squeak is its speed. But I think with a little bit adjusted Squeak, it would also a nice programming environment for DS !
 
greetings
 
Hans

-----Original Message-----
From: stephane ducasse <[hidden email]>
To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <[hidden email]>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:06:07 +0200
Subject: Squeak on DS or other nintendo devices?

Hi

I would like to know whether it makes sense or not to thikn about  
running squeak on a Nintendo
DS?

Stef



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Re: Squeak on DS or other nintendo devices?

Giuseppe
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I ask this some time ago.

The problem is, that only one screen is touchable, and every one works with arm7 and arm9 proccessors.

This is the only information I can give you.

I have a DS if you or others  need some tests.


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Asunto: Squeak on DS or other nintendo devices?

Hi

I would like to know whether it makes sense or not to thikn about  
running squeak on a Nintendo
DS?

Stef



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Giuseppe
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In theory, a pocketpc is more powerfull than a DS, and at the moment, we don't have a usable image to work with it.


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From: "Hans N. Beck" <[hidden email]>

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:14:43
To:"The general-purpose Squeak developers list"<[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Squeak on DS or other nintendo devices?


 Hi Stef,
 
how do you define "make sense " :-) ? Really, for me Nintendo is a great device, it is a good mixture of simple but useful possibilities.  I code for it in Lua at the moment (www.dslua.org), and it is pure fun. What I am not so shure about if related to Squeak is its speed. But I think with a little bit adjusted Squeak, it would also a nice programming environment for DS !
 
 
greetings
 
Hans
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: stephane ducasse <[hidden email]>
 To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <[hidden email]>
 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:06:07 +0200
 Subject: Squeak on DS or other nintendo devices?
 
 
 Hi
 
 I would like to know whether it makes sense or not to thikn about  
 running squeak on a Nintendo
 DS?
 
 Stef
 
 



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Re: Squeak on DS or other nintendo devices?

Jon Hylands
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:06:07 +0200, stephane ducasse
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> I would like to know whether it makes sense or not to thikn about  
> running squeak on a Nintendo
> DS?

I don't see why not, although its got a pretty slow processor (66 MHz ARM9)
and only 4 MB of RAM.

I run Squeak on a gumstix, which is a 600 MHz ARM9 running Linux with 128
MB of RAM. I have in the past run on small machines with 16 MB of RAM, but
I don't think I've ever run on a 4 MB machine. With the right, slimmed down
VM and a really small image it would probably work.

Later,
Jon

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Hans N Beck-2
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Hi Stef,

Am 25.10.2007 um 11:06 schrieb stephane ducasse:

> Hi
>
> I would like to know whether it makes sense or not to thikn about  
> running squeak on a Nintendo
> DS?

have you anything concrete or an idea for a project in mind :-) ?

Greetings

Hans


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stephane ducasse
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yes I browsed around and it seems quite limited.

On 25 oct. 07, at 15:04, Jon Hylands wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:06:07 +0200, stephane ducasse
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I would like to know whether it makes sense or not to thikn about
>> running squeak on a Nintendo
>> DS?
>
> I don't see why not, although its got a pretty slow processor (66  
> MHz ARM9)
> and only 4 MB of RAM.
>
> I run Squeak on a gumstix, which is a 600 MHz ARM9 running Linux  
> with 128
> MB of RAM. I have in the past run on small machines with 16 MB of  
> RAM, but
> I don't think I've ever run on a 4 MB machine. With the right,  
> slimmed down
> VM and a really small image it would probably work.
>
> Later,
> Jon
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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>            http://www.huv.com/blog
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Re: Squeak on DS or other nintendo devices?

stephane ducasse
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how did you get lua in?

Stef

On 25 oct. 07, at 11:14, Hans N. Beck wrote:

>
>  Hi Stef,
>
>
> how do you define "make sense " :-) ? Really, for me Nintendo is a  
> great device, it is a good mixture of simple but useful  
> possibilities.  I code for it in Lua at the moment (www.dslua.org),  
> and it is pure fun. What I am not so shure about if related to  
> Squeak is its speed. But I think with a little bit adjusted Squeak,  
> it would also a nice programming environment for DS !
>
> greetings
>
> Hans
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stephane ducasse <[hidden email]>
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-
> [hidden email]>
> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:06:07 +0200
> Subject: Squeak on DS or other nintendo devices?
>
> Hi
>
> I would like to know whether it makes sense or not to thikn about
> running squeak on a Nintendo
> DS?
>
> Stef
>
>


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Re: Squeak on DS or other nintendo devices?

Hans N Beck-2
Hi,

Am 29.10.2007 um 13:34 schrieb stephane ducasse:

> how did you get lua in?

My hardware is: Nintendo DS Lite, R4 Revolution Card
Software: MaxOs,  DSLua 0.6 and DSLua 0.7

The R4 is an adapter in format of a Nintendo game chip, containing a  
microSD card (I use 1GB). The micrsoSD card can be filled via extra  
USB Adapter.

DSLua is an application (Lua Interpreter) which will be copied to R4  
and started by the boot menu of the R4 card (you can start any  
applications here). DSLua now scans at start-up  a directory  
"script", where you can  select and start your lua scripts. There are  
possibilites to start automatically a script during start-up of the  
interpreter,but details depend on the DSLua version. Also, DSLua 0.6  
can run under DS Emulators, DSLua 0.7 not.

But for the next generation of my application, I want to build my on  
application by using C and built-in Lua, which is not difficult. Also  
I should mention that the DSLua distribution is for Windows only, but  
the scripts and tools fro UNIX can be fetched from the original Lua  
distribution.

Thats the short story. If you want the full story, don't hesitate to  
ask :-)

Regards

Hans

>
> Stef
>
> On 25 oct. 07, at 11:14, Hans N. Beck wrote:
>
>>
>>  Hi Stef,
>>
>>
>> how do you define "make sense " :-) ? Really, for me Nintendo is a  
>> great device, it is a good mixture of simple but useful  
>> possibilities.  I code for it in Lua at the moment  
>> (www.dslua.org), and it is pure fun. What I am not so shure about  
>> if related to Squeak is its speed. But I think with a little bit  
>> adjusted Squeak, it would also a nice programming environment for  
>> DS !
>>
>> greetings
>>
>> Hans
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stephane ducasse <[hidden email]>
>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-
>> [hidden email]>
>> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:06:07 +0200
>> Subject: Squeak on DS or other nintendo devices?
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I would like to know whether it makes sense or not to thikn about
>> running squeak on a Nintendo
>> DS?
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
>
>