There is a dearth of smalltalk or squeak books at most of the bookstores my area - Seattle - this is down from minuscule in the past few years. I am a permanent beginner when it comes to programming or rather an amateur. I do sometimes get more instructional value out of a book than wading through lines of source code - though I understand that this is one of smalltalk's strongest points: its self documenting ability. And so at the bookstores (Borders, Elliott Bay...) I see scores of book on PHP, Ruby, Ruby on the Rails, Python, even Lua, as well as the usual suspects, java, javascript, Visual Basic and C/C++/C#. No smalltalk,no squeak. There used to at least be token representation. So I ask, where are the Squeak for Dummies, or some animal covered smalltalk books published by O'Reilly. This is really to the long-term detriment to the vitality of the language.
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Russ,
I've played around with Squeak after work for the past year, and I've found the following to be great books: Squeak: Learning Programming with Robots by Ducasse, Stephane http://www.nerdbooks.com/item.php?id=1590594916 I found this to be a great book for teaching OO to people who have never programmed before. Squeak: Object-Oriented Design with Multimedia Applications, with CDROM by Gudzial, Mark http://www.nerdbooks.com/item.php?id=0130280283 Squeak: Open Personal Computing and Multimedia, with CDROM by Guzdial, Mark / Rose, Kim http://www.nerdbooks.com/item.php?id=0130280917 Smalltalk-80 by Goldberg, Adele http://www.nerdbooks.com/item.php?id=0201136880 I think this book is really awesome. There's also quite a few good books by Kent Beck on Smalltalk. HTH Bill Six PS (I don't work for nerdbooks, I just buy all of my books there) On 8/15/07, Russ <[hidden email]> wrote: There is a dearth of smalltalk or squeak books at most of the bookstores my area - Seattle - this is down from minuscule in the past few years. I am a permanent beginner when it comes to programming or rather an amateur. I do sometimes get more instructional value out of a book than wading through lines of source code - though I understand that this is one of smalltalk's strongest points: its self documenting ability. And so at the bookstores (Borders, Elliott Bay...) I see scores of book on PHP, Ruby, Ruby on the Rails, Python, even Lua, as well as the usual suspects, java, javascript, Visual Basic and C/C++/C#. No smalltalk,no squeak. There used to at least be token representation. So I ask, where are the Squeak for Dummies, or some animal covered smalltalk books published by O'Reilly. This is really to the long-term detriment to the vitality of the language. _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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Don't miss all the free ones available here: http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html As listed here btw: http://www.squeak.org/Documentation regards, Göran _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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As a beginner I recommend: Squeak Learn Programming with Robots (Technology in Action) If you never did programming before this is a good choice. The difficulty level of the practices reaches from absolutly novice to advanced. But you dont see that much from the Squeak environment I like the style of Gene Korienek, Tom Wrensch & Doug Dechow, Squeak: A Quick Trip to ObjectLand. Further on, has someone mentioned Squeak by example? Google for sbe.pdf If you are familiar with the syntax of the language, look for Kent Becks Smalltalk best pratice patterns. Cool stuff. At the moment I read Design Patterns Smalltalk Companion (more expert level) This takes a lot time, but its worth. I just need more practice. Bye Enno Schwass [hidden email] feed://rss.mac.com/onkelenno/iWeb/Web-Site/Blog/rss.xml _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
On Thu August 16 2007 7:15 am, Enno Schwass wrote:
> sbe.pdf http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/%7Eblack/OOP/papers/SBE.pdf _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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