Hello everybody, This is Marta from Porto Alegre -
Brazil. It is time to continue to plan and
decide things about Squeakfest 2009. My colleagues and I have been talking and
we are enthusiastic to hold a gathering in Porto Alegre on July 23rd to 25th (
Thursday to Saturday). Another International Conference about IT for Ed -
WCCE -world conference in computers for education is going to take place near
Porto Alegre in the following week - July 27th to 31st. We thought that some
of the people coming for Squeakfest would get interested in attending WCCE and
vice versa. Please visit their website - www.wcce2009.org. I think this conference is very relevant to our community. It is
still possible to submit papers if you are interested! The deadline is
December 31st. The Squeakfest would be a gathering for
teachers, educators and school coordinators -- a time for Etoy fun and a
general get together. We will certainly plan for the participation of some
researchers and students as well, but the goal of the conference would be for
participants to share how they are using Etoys, or plan to use it, share
ideas, experiences, material and strengthen Etoy community bonds. We would
also welcome teachers and reps from OLPC schools from Latin America and the
Caribbean and if possible, from other countries. Wouldn’t it be awesome?! Children from Luciana de Abreu School
would certainly attend, present their Etoy projects and, as they are used to
doing at conferences, take pictures and interview you guys with their XOs! What do you think about it? Let me know your ideas… Is the time of the year good for you? Do you know this WCCE? ( I’ve
never hear about it before! Isn’t it a huge coincidence?! We have been
considering Squeakfest 2009 in Porto Alegre since Jan, and then this WCCE is
going to be hold in here too?! ) Well enough questions for just one
email!!!! I hope to hear from you during the
weekend! All the best, Marta Voelcker _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
Marta Voelcker wrote:
> [Squeakfest 2009 in Porto Alegre on July 23rd to 25th] > [IT for Ed - WCCE near Porto Alegre July 27th to 31st] This sounds like a great plan, but don't forget that this will make it also close to FISL, to be held in Porto Alegre as well on June 24 to 27 (Randal Schwartz wrote 25 to 28 in his blog) and which is supposed to have a three day Smalltalk track organized by Randal. I hope there will also be several OLPC related activities at FISL 2009 like there were this year. The problem is that nearly a month is too close for two trips down there but too far away for a single trip for both events. Unfortunately I don't have any good suggestions. For locals, of course, it will be great! -- Jecel _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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Marta> It is time to continue to plan and decide things about Squeakfest Marta> 2009. My colleagues and I have been talking and we are enthusiastic to Marta> hold a gathering in Porto Alegre on July 23rd to 25th ( Thursday to Marta> Saturday). Another International Conference about IT for Ed - WCCE Marta> -world conference in computers for education is going to take place Marta> near Porto Alegre in the following week - July 27th to 31st. We Marta> thought that some of the people coming for Squeakfest would get Marta> interested in attending WCCE and vice versa. Please also note the addition of an entire 3-day Smalltalk Mini-Conf within FISL 10, a mere three weeks earlier within the same city! How much smalltalking can Porto Alegre handle? :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <[hidden email]> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
Randal, Jecel and all, June is also possible, but, I was
thinking how Smalltalk Conference and how FISL atmosphere relate to the Squeakfest
that I had in mind (similar to Chicago 2007)... I have limited experience, but the way I
see things, the currently biggest challenge for E-toys growth is not on its code,
is not related to software, but to teachers and schools reps. It is related to
communicating what for, and how to, use it inside schools. In this context, making a metaphor with sports,
let's say... with NBA - I see the developers/programmers as the wise and
experienced coaches, and I see the teachers as the players. They are those who
score, who make it happen inside the classroom - I would like to see them becoming
the stars, shining in this context! The name Squeakfest made history
already, and so we plan to keep it, but in fact, the idea is not about squeak-the
programming language- the idea is gathering together to share experience and
plans about E-toys. Talking about e-toys I am particularly motivated
about 2009 - the landscape had never been so proper to make it growth. Taking growth
as explained by David Cavallo's in his paper - Models of
growth — towards fundamental change in learning environments - ... as the
terms replication and scaling are themselves problematic and misleading. I
see 2009 proper for growth because OLPC has already delivered XOs in schools in
many countries; technology price had go down also in developing countries…
But schools will need initiated teachers, teachers active in e-toys community,
to make it happen. Maybe, relating Squeakfest with a big software
conferences might scare teachers… In the other hand, making Squeakfest close
to an IT for Education conference (WCCE) is probably going to increase
attendance of teachers and people from education area. Let me know your thoughts, Marta -----Mensagem original----- >>>>> "Marta" == Marta Voelcker
<[hidden email]> writes: Marta> It is time to continue to plan and decide
things about Squeakfest Marta> 2009. My colleagues and I have been talking and
we are enthusiastic to Marta> hold a gathering in Porto Alegre on July 23rd
to 25th ( Thursday to Marta> Saturday). Another International Conference
about IT for Ed - WCCE Marta> -world conference in computers for education is
going to take place Marta> near Porto Alegre in the following week - July
27th to 31st. We Marta> thought that some of the people coming for
Squeakfest would get Marta> interested in attending WCCE and vice versa. Please also note the addition of an entire 3-day
Smalltalk Mini-Conf within FISL 10, a mere three weeks earlier within the same
city! How much smalltalking can Porto Alegre handle? :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc.
- +1 503 777 0095 <[hidden email]>
<URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing,
Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and
Seaside discussion _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
Am 23.11.2008 um 06:11 schrieb Marta Voelcker: > Randal, Jecel and all, > > June is also possible, but, I was thinking how Smalltalk Conference > and how FISL atmosphere relate to the Squeakfest that I had in mind > (similar to Chicago 2007)... > > I have limited experience, but the way I see things, the currently > biggest challenge for E-toys growth is not on its code, is not > related to software, but to teachers and schools reps. It is related > to communicating what for, and how to, use it inside schools. > > In this context, making a metaphor with sports, let's say... with > NBA - I see the developers/programmers as the wise and experienced > coaches, and I see the teachers as the players. They are those who > score, who make it happen inside the classroom - I would like to see > them becoming the stars, shining in this context! > > The name Squeakfest made history already, and so we plan to keep it, > but in fact, the idea is not about squeak-the programming language- > the idea is gathering together to share experience and plans about > E-toys. > > Talking about e-toys I am particularly motivated about 2009 - the > landscape had never been so proper to make it growth. Taking growth > as explained by > David Cavallo's in his paper - Models of growth — towards > fundamental change in learning environments - ... as the terms > replication and scaling are themselves problematic and misleading. > I see 2009 proper for growth because OLPC has already delivered XOs > in schools in many countries; technology price had go down also in > developing countries… But schools will need initiated teachers, > teachers active in e-toys community, to make it happen. > Maybe, relating Squeakfest with a big software conferences might > scare teachers… > In the other hand, making Squeakfest close to an IT for Education > conference (WCCE) is probably going to increase attendance of > teachers and people from education area. > > Let me know your thoughts, Hi Marta, I agree with you that the main focus of Squeakfest should be the teachers and educators. In this context I would think July is easier for teachers because of the summer holidays, which in most countries will have started in July (as far as I know). What you think about Squeakfest sounds very inspiring! Please let me know how I can help you with planning. Best regards, Rita > > Marta > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: Randal L. Schwartz [mailto:[hidden email]] > Enviada em: sábado, 22 de novembro de 2008 10:42 > Para: Marta Voelcker > Cc: [hidden email]; [hidden email]; 'Susana > Seidel'; Edson Lindner; 'Daniela Hoffmann'; [hidden email] > ; Léa Fagundes - UFRGS (Léa Fagundes - UFRGS); 'bruno sperb'; > 'Mônica Estrázulas' > Assunto: Re: [Squeakland] Squeakfest 2009 > > >>>>> "Marta" == Marta Voelcker <[hidden email]> > writes: > > Marta> It is time to continue to plan and decide things about > Squeakfest > Marta> 2009. My colleagues and I have been talking and we are > enthusiastic to > Marta> hold a gathering in Porto Alegre on July 23rd to 25th > ( Thursday to > Marta> Saturday). Another International Conference about IT for Ed > - WCCE > Marta> -world conference in computers for education is going to take > place > Marta> near Porto Alegre in the following week - July 27th to 31st. > We > Marta> thought that some of the people coming for Squeakfest would get > Marta> interested in attending WCCE and vice versa. > > Please also note the addition of an entire 3-day Smalltalk Mini-Conf > within > FISL 10, a mere three weeks earlier within the same city! How much > smalltalking can Porto Alegre handle? :) > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 > 777 0095 > <[hidden email]> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside > discussion > _______________________________________________ > Etoys mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
Rita,
thanks for your reply, Nice to know that you are considering to come! We could think together how to organize some new kind - more interactive workshops - maybe for a happy hour -or one afternoon - I participated in a conference in Costa Rica, last April - there was one moment called " Café with researchers" they organized 2 researchers and a translator per table together with 10 local students - we had coffee and an casual conversation - each table had specific theme and researchers from different countries... I am sure you have other experiences ... we could think about some interactive moments... Vielen dank! Marta -----Mensagem original----- De: Rita Freudenberg [mailto:[hidden email]] Enviada em: domingo, 23 de novembro de 2008 17:02 Para: Marta Voelcker Cc: 'Randal L. Schwartz'; [hidden email]; 'Susana Seidel'; 'Edson Lindner'; [hidden email]; 'Daniela Hoffmann'; [hidden email]; "'Léa Fagundes - UFRGS (Léa Fagundes - UFRGS)'"; 'bruno sperb'; "'Mônica Estrázulas'" Assunto: Re: [Etoys] RES: [Squeakland] Squeakfest 2009 Am 23.11.2008 um 06:11 schrieb Marta Voelcker: > Randal, Jecel and all, > > June is also possible, but, I was thinking how Smalltalk Conference > and how FISL atmosphere relate to the Squeakfest that I had in mind > (similar to Chicago 2007)... > > I have limited experience, but the way I see things, the currently > biggest challenge for E-toys growth is not on its code, is not > related to software, but to teachers and schools reps. It is related > to communicating what for, and how to, use it inside schools. > > In this context, making a metaphor with sports, let's say... with > NBA - I see the developers/programmers as the wise and experienced > coaches, and I see the teachers as the players. They are those who > score, who make it happen inside the classroom - I would like to see > them becoming the stars, shining in this context! > > The name Squeakfest made history already, and so we plan to keep it, > but in fact, the idea is not about squeak-the programming language- > the idea is gathering together to share experience and plans about > E-toys. > > Talking about e-toys I am particularly motivated about 2009 - the > landscape had never been so proper to make it growth. Taking growth > as explained by > David Cavallo's in his paper - Models of growth towards > fundamental change in learning environments - ... as the terms > replication and scaling are themselves problematic and misleading. > I see 2009 proper for growth because OLPC has already delivered XOs > in schools in many countries; technology price had go down also in > developing countries But schools will need initiated teachers, > teachers active in e-toys community, to make it happen. > Maybe, relating Squeakfest with a big software conferences might > scare teachers > In the other hand, making Squeakfest close to an IT for Education > conference (WCCE) is probably going to increase attendance of > teachers and people from education area. > > Let me know your thoughts, Hi Marta, I agree with you that the main focus of Squeakfest should be the teachers and educators. In this context I would think July is easier for teachers because of the summer holidays, which in most countries will have started in July (as far as I know). What you think about Squeakfest sounds very inspiring! Please let me know how I can help you with planning. Best regards, Rita > > Marta > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: Randal L. Schwartz [mailto:[hidden email]] > Enviada em: sábado, 22 de novembro de 2008 10:42 > Para: Marta Voelcker > Cc: [hidden email]; [hidden email]; 'Susana > Seidel'; Edson Lindner; 'Daniela Hoffmann'; [hidden email] > ; Léa Fagundes - UFRGS (Léa Fagundes - UFRGS); 'bruno sperb'; > 'Mônica Estrázulas' > Assunto: Re: [Squeakland] Squeakfest 2009 > > >>>>> "Marta" == Marta Voelcker <[hidden email]> > writes: > > Marta> It is time to continue to plan and decide things about > Squeakfest > Marta> 2009. My colleagues and I have been talking and we are > enthusiastic to > Marta> hold a gathering in Porto Alegre on July 23rd to 25th > ( Thursday to > Marta> Saturday). Another International Conference about IT for Ed > - WCCE > Marta> -world conference in computers for education is going to take > place > Marta> near Porto Alegre in the following week - July 27th to 31st. > We > Marta> thought that some of the people coming for Squeakfest would get > Marta> interested in attending WCCE and vice versa. > > Please also note the addition of an entire 3-day Smalltalk Mini-Conf > within > FISL 10, a mere three weeks earlier within the same city! How much > smalltalking can Porto Alegre handle? :) > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 > 777 0095 > <[hidden email]> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside > discussion > _______________________________________________ > Etoys mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
Marta Voelcker wrote:
> Rita, > > thanks for your reply, > Nice to know that you are considering to come! > We could think together how to organize some new kind - more interactive > workshops - maybe for a happy hour -or one afternoon - > > I participated in a conference in Costa Rica, last April - there was one > moment called " Café with researchers" they organized 2 researchers and a > translator per table together with 10 local students - we had coffee and an > casual conversation - each table had specific theme and researchers from > different countries... I am sure you have other experiences ... we could > think about some interactive moments... > > conference in July were the kids on the first keynote. That was such a motivation for every researcher and teacher! I would like to do something like that at Squeakfest, maybe with the kids from Luciana de Abreu Elementary School? What do you think? Cumprimentos, Rita > Vielen dank! > > Marta > > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: Rita Freudenberg [mailto:[hidden email]] > Enviada em: domingo, 23 de novembro de 2008 17:02 > Para: Marta Voelcker > Cc: 'Randal L. Schwartz'; [hidden email]; 'Susana Seidel'; 'Edson > Lindner'; [hidden email]; 'Daniela Hoffmann'; > [hidden email]; "'Léa Fagundes - UFRGS (Léa Fagundes - > UFRGS)'"; 'bruno sperb'; "'Mônica Estrázulas'" > Assunto: Re: [Etoys] RES: [Squeakland] Squeakfest 2009 > > Am 23.11.2008 um 06:11 schrieb Marta Voelcker: > > >> Randal, Jecel and all, >> >> June is also possible, but, I was thinking how Smalltalk Conference >> and how FISL atmosphere relate to the Squeakfest that I had in mind >> (similar to Chicago 2007)... >> >> I have limited experience, but the way I see things, the currently >> biggest challenge for E-toys growth is not on its code, is not >> related to software, but to teachers and schools reps. It is related >> to communicating what for, and how to, use it inside schools. >> >> In this context, making a metaphor with sports, let's say... with >> NBA - I see the developers/programmers as the wise and experienced >> coaches, and I see the teachers as the players. They are those who >> score, who make it happen inside the classroom - I would like to see >> them becoming the stars, shining in this context! >> >> The name Squeakfest made history already, and so we plan to keep it, >> but in fact, the idea is not about squeak-the programming language- >> the idea is gathering together to share experience and plans about >> E-toys. >> >> Talking about e-toys I am particularly motivated about 2009 - the >> landscape had never been so proper to make it growth. Taking growth >> as explained by >> David Cavallo's in his paper - Models of growth — towards >> fundamental change in learning environments - ... as the terms >> replication and scaling are themselves problematic and misleading. >> I see 2009 proper for growth because OLPC has already delivered XOs >> in schools in many countries; technology price had go down also in >> developing countries… But schools will need initiated teachers, >> teachers active in e-toys community, to make it happen. >> Maybe, relating Squeakfest with a big software conferences might >> scare teachers… >> In the other hand, making Squeakfest close to an IT for Education >> conference (WCCE) is probably going to increase attendance of >> teachers and people from education area. >> >> Let me know your thoughts, >> > > Hi Marta, > > I agree with you that the main focus of Squeakfest should be the > teachers and educators. In this context I would think July is easier > for teachers because of the summer holidays, which in most countries > will have started in July (as far as I know). What you think about > Squeakfest sounds very inspiring! Please let me know how I can help > you with planning. > > Best regards, > Rita > > >> Marta >> >> -----Mensagem original----- >> De: Randal L. Schwartz [mailto:[hidden email]] >> Enviada em: sábado, 22 de novembro de 2008 10:42 >> Para: Marta Voelcker >> Cc: [hidden email]; [hidden email]; 'Susana >> Seidel'; Edson Lindner; 'Daniela Hoffmann'; [hidden email] >> > > >> ; Léa Fagundes - UFRGS (Léa Fagundes - UFRGS); 'bruno sperb'; >> 'Mônica Estrázulas' >> Assunto: Re: [Squeakland] Squeakfest 2009 >> >> >>>>>>> "Marta" == Marta Voelcker <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> >> writes: >> >> Marta> It is time to continue to plan and decide things about >> Squeakfest >> Marta> 2009. My colleagues and I have been talking and we are >> enthusiastic to >> Marta> hold a gathering in Porto Alegre on July 23rd to 25th >> ( Thursday to >> Marta> Saturday). Another International Conference about IT for Ed >> - WCCE >> Marta> -world conference in computers for education is going to take >> place >> Marta> near Porto Alegre in the following week - July 27th to 31st. >> We >> Marta> thought that some of the people coming for Squeakfest would get >> Marta> interested in attending WCCE and vice versa. >> >> Please also note the addition of an entire 3-day Smalltalk Mini-Conf >> within >> FISL 10, a mere three weeks earlier within the same city! How much >> smalltalking can Porto Alegre handle? :) >> >> -- >> Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 >> 777 0095 >> <[hidden email]> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> >> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. >> See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside >> discussion >> _______________________________________________ >> Etoys mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Etoys mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys > > > > _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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Marta Voelcker escribió: > > Randal, Jecel and all, > > June is also possible, but, I was thinking how Smalltalk Conference > and how FISL atmosphere relate to the Squeakfest that I had in mind > (similar to Chicago 2007)... > > I have limited experience, but the way I see things, the currently > biggest challenge for E-toys growth is not on its code, is not related > to software, but to teachers and schools reps. It is related to > communicating /what for,/ and /how to,/ use it inside schools. > > In this context, making a metaphor with sports, let's say... with NBA > - I see the developers/programmers as the wise and experienced > coaches, and I see the teachers as the players. They are those who > score, who make it happen inside the classroom - I would like to see > them becoming the stars, shining in this context! > > The name Squeakfest made history already, and so we plan to keep it, > but in fact, the idea is not about squeak-the programming language- > the idea is gathering together to share experience and plans about E-toys. > > Talking about e-toys I am particularly motivated about 2009 - the > landscape had never been so proper to make it growth. Taking growth as > explained by > > David Cavallo's in his paper - Models of growth — towards fundamental > change in learning environments - ... /as the terms replication and > scaling are themselves problematic and misleading. /I see 2009 proper > for growth because OLPC has already delivered XOs in schools in many > countries; technology price had go down also in developing countries… > But schools will need initiated teachers, teachers active in e-toys > community, to make it happen. > > > Maybe, relating Squeakfest with a big software conferences might scare > teachers… > > In the other hand, making Squeakfest close to an IT for Education > conference (WCCE) is probably going to increase attendance of teachers > and people from education area. > Nice to hear about you and your views for the incoming Squeakfest. Talking about the Cavallo's article. His group also said that changes in macro scale require also (among other things): * Materials: things that make easy the work with new paradigms (etoys and OLPC are two of them) and * bottom up and emergent process * Community and communication So I think that Squeakfest has a lot of opportunity to take advantage of this things. I emphasize this three because with a little switch in Squeakfest they can help to create a more large scale changes: * We need a more bottom-up spaces in the event. Of course workshops and usual conferences will be there, but I would propose something more emergent and bottom up. We have here in Colombia something called Educamp[1], the space and the dynamics emphasize the emergent process of knowledge building between participants. Other things like the world cafe work in the same vein [1] http://educamp.wetpaint.com/ [2] http://www.theworldcafe.com/ We need also somekind of "Squeak cross-pollination" between Squeak and other communities. For me Squeak has somekind of natural way to construct a discourse about computers as cognitive artifacts. In some way things that you think for long time ago before knowing Squeak about what computers should be, are already there, but you find this a a lot of other interesting ideas in other communities. Recently I found the idea of a self-contained, elucidative system in Tiddlywiki. Would be nice to put this ideas and communities to chat and to stretch ties and talks between them. There is any place for papers submisions or ideas about workshops? I will really like to present something this year also. Cheers, Offray _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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