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Klaus D. Witzel

Support this project

Gentlefolks,

I just returned from www.stellarium.org, they (like many other free open
source projects) have a "support this project" button for people who want
to donate money to the project.

I'd like to suggest that the various Squeak projects have their own
"support this project" button. This perhaps makes it easier for interested
parties to donate some money. Many people (like me) don't want to buy a
piece of supermarket, but rather just some groceries for their mouse :)

Donations to projects can be used for (for example) representing projects
at events, buying hardware for the developers, printing CDs or
documentation, and other related marketing activities which require money
in support of visibility.

And of course regular transfers can be made from a project's funds in
support of the more general activities (community server, etc).

What do you think?

/Klaus

Sebastian Sastre-2

RE: Support this project

Hi Klaus!,

I found it interesting. In practice each project should manage it's
own donation system? That is the best/feasible way? Uniformization of that
is desirable?

cheers,

Sebastian Sastre

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] En
> nombre de Klaus D. Witzel
> Enviado el: Miércoles, 04 de Julio de 2007 08:16
> Para: [hidden email]
> Asunto: Support this project
>
> Gentlefolks,
>
> I just returned from www.stellarium.org, they (like many
> other free open source projects) have a "support this
> project" button for people who want to donate money to the project.
>
> I'd like to suggest that the various Squeak projects have
> their own "support this project" button. This perhaps makes
> it easier for interested parties to donate some money. Many
> people (like me) don't want to buy a piece of supermarket,
> but rather just some groceries for their mouse :)
>
> Donations to projects can be used for (for example)
> representing projects at events, buying hardware for the
> developers, printing CDs or documentation, and other related
> marketing activities which require money in support of visibility.
>
> And of course regular transfers can be made from a project's
> funds in support of the more general activities (community
> server, etc).
>
> What do you think?
>
> /Klaus
>
>

Ken Causey-3

Re: Support this project

In reply to this post by Klaus D. Witzel

http://www.squeak.org/Foundation/SupportSqueak/

Obviously this is not obvious enough. Maybe it's time for banner or
column ads (for internal purposes only) on Squeak.org?

Ken

On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 13:15 +0200, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:

> Gentlefolks,
>
> I just returned from www.stellarium.org, they (like many other free open
> source projects) have a "support this project" button for people who want
> to donate money to the project.
>
> I'd like to suggest that the various Squeak projects have their own
> "support this project" button. This perhaps makes it easier for interested
> parties to donate some money. Many people (like me) don't want to buy a
> piece of supermarket, but rather just some groceries for their mouse :)
>
> Donations to projects can be used for (for example) representing projects
> at events, buying hardware for the developers, printing CDs or
> documentation, and other related marketing activities which require money
> in support of visibility.
>
> And of course regular transfers can be made from a project's funds in
> support of the more general activities (community server, etc).
>
> What do you think?
>
> /Klaus
>
>
>

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timrowledge

Re: Support this project

On 4-Jul-07, at 7:53 AM, Ken Causey wrote:

> http://www.squeak.org/Foundation/SupportSqueak/
>
> Obviously this is not obvious enough. Maybe it's time for banner or
> column ads (for internal purposes only) on Squeak.org?

Maybe we need to add 'Support Squeak' to the 'Take part in the
innovation' section on the front page?

tim
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Philippe Marschall

Re: Support this project

In reply to this post by Klaus D. Witzel

2007/7/4, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>:

Seaside has this, I think it received one donation.

Cheers
Philippe

> /Klaus
>
>
>

Avi Bryant-2

Re: Support this project

On 7/4/07, Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Seaside has this, I think it received one donation.

Two, actually, but both from the same individual.

Avi

Klaus D. Witzel

Re: Support this project

In reply to this post by Sebastian Sastre-2

Hi Sebastian,
you wrote:

> Hi Klaus!,
>
> I found it interesting. In practice each project should manage it's
> own donation system?

I don't think that there must be separate systems. Only more choice and
more reasons for the donor to say, yes I'll do it.

/Klaus

> That is the best/feasible way? Uniformization of that is desirable?
>
> cheers,
>
> Sebastian Sastre
>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] En
>> nombre de Klaus D. Witzel
>> Enviado el: Miércoles, 04 de Julio de 2007 08:16
>> Para: [hidden email]
>> Asunto: Support this project
>>
>> Gentlefolks,
>>
>> I just returned from www.stellarium.org, they (like many
>> other free open source projects) have a "support this
>> project" button for people who want to donate money to the project.
>>
>> I'd like to suggest that the various Squeak projects have
>> their own "support this project" button. This perhaps makes
>> it easier for interested parties to donate some money. Many
>> people (like me) don't want to buy a piece of supermarket,
>> but rather just some groceries for their mouse :)
>>
>> Donations to projects can be used for (for example)
>> representing projects at events, buying hardware for the
>> developers, printing CDs or documentation, and other related
>> marketing activities which require money in support of visibility.
>>
>> And of course regular transfers can be made from a project's
>> funds in support of the more general activities (community
>> server, etc).
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> /Klaus
>>
>>
>
>
>

Klaus D. Witzel

Re: Support this project

In reply to this post by Ken Causey-3

Hi Ken,

on Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:53:11 +0200, you wrote:

> http://www.squeak.org/Foundation/SupportSqueak/
>
> Obviously this is not obvious enough.

I know that, and I'm using it. I even posted here, recently, that I used
it.

And I want to support those projects which are of interest for me, not
just all.

> Maybe it's time for banner or
> column ads (for internal purposes only) on Squeak.org?

One button per project, that was what I suggested. So people can have more
reasons to effectively donate.

/Klaus

> Ken
>
> On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 13:15 +0200, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
>> Gentlefolks,
>>
>> I just returned from www.stellarium.org, they (like many other free open
>> source projects) have a "support this project" button for people who
>> want
>> to donate money to the project.
>>
>> I'd like to suggest that the various Squeak projects have their own
>> "support this project" button. This perhaps makes it easier for
>> interested
>> parties to donate some money. Many people (like me) don't want to buy a
>> piece of supermarket, but rather just some groceries for their mouse :)
>>
>> Donations to projects can be used for (for example) representing
>> projects
>> at events, buying hardware for the developers, printing CDs or
>> documentation, and other related marketing activities which require
>> money
>> in support of visibility.
>>
>> And of course regular transfers can be made from a project's funds in
>> support of the more general activities (community server, etc).
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> /Klaus
>>
>>
>>

J J-6

RE: Support this project

In reply to this post by Klaus D. Witzel

Good idea

> To: [hidden email]
> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 13:15:36 +0200
> Subject: Support this project
>
> Gentlefolks,
>
> I just returned from www.stellarium.org, they (like many other free open
> source projects) have a "support this project" button for people who want
> to donate money to the project.
>
> I'd like to suggest that the various Squeak projects have their own
> "support this project" button. This perhaps makes it easier for interested
> parties to donate some money. Many people (like me) don't want to buy a
> piece of supermarket, but rather just some groceries for their mouse :)
>
> Donations to projects can be used for (for example) representing projects
> at events, buying hardware for the developers, printing CDs or
> documentation, and other related marketing activities which require money
> in support of visibility.
>
> And of course regular transfers can be made from a project's funds in
> support of the more general activities (community server, etc).
>
> What do you think?
>
> /Klaus
>
>

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Damien Pollet

Re: Support this project

In reply to this post by Klaus D. Witzel

On 04/07/07, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> One button per project, that was what I suggested. So people can have more
> reasons to effectively donate.
[snip]
> >> And of course regular transfers can be made from a project's funds in
> >> support of the more general activities (community server, etc).

What about one button per project but all money goes to one place?

Makes sense for many small projects IMHO, since most will benefit more
from the symbolic value of the donation and from a wealthier
foundation/community than from the direct money.

--
Damien Pollet
type less, do more [ | ] http://typo.cdlm.fasmz.org

Klaus D. Witzel

Re: Support this project

Hi Damien,

on Fri, 06 Jul 2007 19:55:30 +0200, you wrote:

> On 04/07/07, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> One button per project, that was what I suggested. So people can have
>> more
>> reasons to effectively donate.
> [snip]
>> >> And of course regular transfers can be made from a project's funds in
>> >> support of the more general activities (community server, etc).
>
> What about one button per project but all money goes to one place?

Yeah, that'll do it as well (in principle). I think that's what Ken
suggested, having more buttons on obvious places of squeak.org's web pages.

> Makes sense for many small projects IMHO, since most will benefit more
> from the symbolic value of the donation and from a wealthier
> foundation/community than from the direct money.

Many and small, that's Smalltalk-ish :)

/Klaus

>

Lex Spoon-3

Re: Support this project

In reply to this post by Klaus D. Witzel

"Klaus D. Witzel" <[hidden email]> writes:
> Donations to projects can be used for (for example) representing
> projects at events, buying hardware for the developers, printing CDs
> or documentation, and other related marketing activities which
> require money in support of visibility.
>
> And of course regular transfers can be made from a project's funds in
> support of the more general activities (community server, etc).

That sounds good to me, except that I do not think that SF or the
maintainers of squeak.org should be responsible for setting it up.
Let's simply leave each project to set up whatever donation
infrastructure it likes.

Lex