The Inbox: Kernel-hjh.1115.mcz

Am 05.10.2017 13:29:08 schrieb H. Hirzel <[hidden email]>:

Pharo no longer has a class 'StringHolder'. There considerable
discussion on the Pharo list about this. One issue was documentation



Stéphane Ducasse
Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:42 AM
Reply-To: Moose-related development
To: Moose-related development

Doru the key difference with stringHolder is that in StringHolder
nobody understand how it works.
Because it I would know I would go way faster. So I suggest that we
spend next two weeks not typing code on moose but only fixing comments
and we will get a real impact.
For pharo I have always to reverse engineer (network, filesystem...)
because people forget that a soft is finihsed with it is really
documented.



This update is a very modest contribution to the documentation of
StringHolder :-)

More input is welcome....

HH

On 10/5/17, H. Hirzel wrote:

> Squeak 6.0a StringHolder no longer has message list categories
> - code pane menu
> - message list menu
>
> HH
>
>
> On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 11:04:01 0000, [hidden email]
> wrote:
>> A new version of Kernel was added to project The Inbox:
>> http://source.squeak.org/inbox/Kernel-hjh.1115.mcz
>>
>> ==================== Summary ====================
>>
>> Name: Kernel-hjh.1115
>> Author: hjh
>> Time: 5 October 2017, 1:03:22.023466 pm
>> UUID: c80056e1-3f90-4dae-935f-2507eb2c0f94
>> Ancestors: Kernel-cmm.1114
>>
>> Better to have only a short class comment than to have wrong content.
>>
>> Squeak 3.0 had message categories
>> - code pane menu
>> - message list menu.
>>
>> I did not verify if 'in some the text is a method' still applies or not.
>>
>> =============== Diff against Kernel-cmm.1114 ===============
>>
>> Item was changed:
>> Model subclass: #StringHolder
>> instanceVariableNames: 'contents'
>> classVariableNames: ''
>> poolDictionaries: ''
>> category: 'Kernel-Models'!
>>
>> + !StringHolder commentStamp: 'hjh 10/5/2017 13:00' prior: 0!
>> - !StringHolder commentStamp: '' prior: 0!
>> I am a kind of Model that includes a piece of text. In some cases, the
>> text can be edited, and in some the text is a method.
>> + !
>> -
>> - Categories 'code pane menu' and 'message list menu' are messages that
>> may
>> be called by my menus when the text is a method, and when some pane is a
>> list of methods. Other of my subclasses may ignore these two catagories
>> altogether.!
>>
>>
>>
>

Am 05.10.2017 15:50:58 schrieb H. Hirzel <[hidden email]>:

I agree, Marcel. Please, what is this nice tool you have been using
for the screen shot?
--Hannes

On 10/5/17, Marcel Taeumel wrote:

> Hi, there.
>
> I think that new tools should either subclass CodeHolder or Model. We can
> try to shrink the interface of StringHolder in the future.
>
>
> Best,
> Marcel
> Am 05.10.2017 13:29:08 schrieb H. Hirzel :
> Pharo no longer has a class 'StringHolder'. There considerable
> discussion on the Pharo list about this. One issue was documentation
>
>
>
> Stéphane Ducasse
> Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:42 AM
> Reply-To: Moose-related development
> To: Moose-related development
>
> Doru the key difference with stringHolder is that in StringHolder
> nobody understand how it works.
> Because it I would know I would go way faster. So I suggest that we
> spend next two weeks not typing code on moose but only fixing comments
> and we will get a real impact.
> For pharo I have always to reverse engineer (network, filesystem...)
> because people forget that a soft is finihsed with it is really
> documented.
>
>
>
> This update is a very modest contribution to the documentation of
> StringHolder :-)
>
> More input is welcome....
>
> HH
>
> On 10/5/17, H. Hirzel wrote:
>> Squeak 6.0a StringHolder no longer has message list categories
>> - code pane menu
>> - message list menu
>>
>> HH
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 11:04:01 0000, [hidden email]
>> wrote:
>>> A new version of Kernel was added to project The Inbox:
>>> http://source.squeak.org/inbox/Kernel-hjh.1115.mcz
>>>
>>> ==================== Summary ====================
>>>
>>> Name: Kernel-hjh.1115
>>> Author: hjh
>>> Time: 5 October 2017, 1:03:22.023466 pm
>>> UUID: c80056e1-3f90-4dae-935f-2507eb2c0f94
>>> Ancestors: Kernel-cmm.1114
>>>
>>> Better to have only a short class comment than to have wrong content.
>>>
>>> Squeak 3.0 had message categories
>>> - code pane menu
>>> - message list menu.
>>>
>>> I did not verify if 'in some the text is a method' still applies or not.
>>>
>>> =============== Diff against Kernel-cmm.1114 ===============
>>>
>>> Item was changed:
>>> Model subclass: #StringHolder
>>> instanceVariableNames: 'contents'
>>> classVariableNames: ''
>>> poolDictionaries: ''
>>> category: 'Kernel-Models'!
>>>
>>> + !StringHolder commentStamp: 'hjh 10/5/2017 13:00' prior: 0!
>>> - !StringHolder commentStamp: '' prior: 0!
>>> I am a kind of Model that includes a piece of text. In some cases, the
>>> text can be edited, and in some the text is a method.
>>> + !
>>> -
>>> - Categories 'code pane menu' and 'message list menu' are messages that
>>> may
>>> be called by my menus when the text is a method, and when some pane is a
>>> list of methods. Other of my subclasses may ignore these two catagories
>>> altogether.!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Am 05.10.2017 15:55:40 schrieb Marcel Taeumel <[hidden email]>:

I am using Vivide [1], whose standard scripts make use of Widgets [2]. There are pre-configured Squeak images [3].

Best,

Marcel

[1] https://github.com/hpi-swa/vivide/

[2] https://github.com/hpi-swa/widgets

[3] https://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/artefacts/vivide/

Am 05.10.2017 15:50:58 schrieb H. Hirzel <[hidden email]>:

I agree, Marcel. Please, what is this nice tool you have been using
for the screen shot?
--Hannes

On 10/5/17, Marcel Taeumel wrote:

> Hi, there.
>
> I think that new tools should either subclass CodeHolder or Model. We can
> try to shrink the interface of StringHolder in the future.
>
>
> Best,
> Marcel
> Am 05.10.2017 13:29:08 schrieb H. Hirzel :
> Pharo no longer has a class 'StringHolder'. There considerable
> discussion on the Pharo list about this. One issue was documentation
>
>
>
> Stéphane Ducasse
> Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:42 AM
> Reply-To: Moose-related development
> To: Moose-related development
>
> Doru the key difference with stringHolder is that in StringHolder
> nobody understand how it works.
> Because it I would know I would go way faster. So I suggest that we
> spend next two weeks not typing code on moose but only fixing comments
> and we will get a real impact.
> For pharo I have always to reverse engineer (network, filesystem...)
> because people forget that a soft is finihsed with it is really
> documented.
>
>
>
> This update is a very modest contribution to the documentation of
> StringHolder :-)
>
> More input is welcome....
>
> HH
>
> On 10/5/17, H. Hirzel wrote:
>> Squeak 6.0a StringHolder no longer has message list categories
>> - code pane menu
>> - message list menu
>>
>> HH
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 11:04:01 0000, [hidden email]
>> wrote:
>>> A new version of Kernel was added to project The Inbox:
>>> http://source.squeak.org/inbox/Kernel-hjh.1115.mcz
>>>
>>> ==================== Summary ====================
>>>
>>> Name: Kernel-hjh.1115
>>> Author: hjh
>>> Time: 5 October 2017, 1:03:22.023466 pm
>>> UUID: c80056e1-3f90-4dae-935f-2507eb2c0f94
>>> Ancestors: Kernel-cmm.1114
>>>
>>> Better to have only a short class comment than to have wrong content.
>>>
>>> Squeak 3.0 had message categories
>>> - code pane menu
>>> - message list menu.
>>>
>>> I did not verify if 'in some the text is a method' still applies or not.
>>>
>>> =============== Diff against Kernel-cmm.1114 ===============
>>>
>>> Item was changed:
>>> Model subclass: #StringHolder
>>> instanceVariableNames: 'contents'
>>> classVariableNames: ''
>>> poolDictionaries: ''
>>> category: 'Kernel-Models'!
>>>
>>> + !StringHolder commentStamp: 'hjh 10/5/2017 13:00' prior: 0!
>>> - !StringHolder commentStamp: '' prior: 0!
>>> I am a kind of Model that includes a piece of text. In some cases, the
>>> text can be edited, and in some the text is a method.
>>> + !
>>> -
>>> - Categories 'code pane menu' and 'message list menu' are messages that
>>> may
>>> be called by my menus when the text is a method, and when some pane is a
>>> list of methods. Other of my subclasses may ignore these two catagories
>>> altogether.!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>