The Trunk: Morphic-cmm.1484.mcz

>
> Chris Muller uploaded a new version of Morphic to project The Trunk:
> http://source.squeak.org/trunk/Morphic-cmm.1484.mcz
>
> ==================== Summary ====================
>
> Name: Morphic-cmm.1484
> Author: cmm
> Time: 4 April 2019, 5:46:17.398582 pm
> UUID: 5a57ba6f-fa15-44a3-9581-c919060f0378
> Ancestors: Morphic-cmm.1483
>
> Metacello and GitInfrastructure tools are currently the best way to load projects hosted by github.com.  Promote installation of the these tools to the Tools menu.
>
> =============== Diff against Morphic-cmm.1483 ===============
>
> Item was added:
> + ----- Method: TheWorldMainDockingBar>>gitInfrastructureMenuItemOn: (in category 'submenu - tools') -----
> + gitInfrastructureMenuItemOn: menu
> +       menu addItem:
> +               [ : item | item
> +                        contents: 'Git Infrastructure' translated ;
> +                        help: 'Load tools for accessing github repositories.' translated ;
> +                        icon: (self colorIcon: Color lightGray) ;
> +                        target: Installer ;
> +                        selector: #installGitInfrastructure ]!
>
> Item was added:
> + ----- Method: TheWorldMainDockingBar>>metacelloMenuItemOn: (in category 'submenu - tools') -----
> + metacelloMenuItemOn: menu
> +       menu addItem:
> +               [ : item | item
> +                        contents: 'Metacello' translated ;
> +                        help: 'Install Metacello' translated ;
> +                        icon: (self colorIcon: Color lightGray) ;
> +                        target: Installer ;
> +                        selector: #ensureRecentMetacello ]!
>
> Item was changed:
>   ----- Method: TheWorldMainDockingBar>>toolsMenuOn: (in category 'construction') -----
>   toolsMenuOn: aDockingBar
>
>         aDockingBar addItem: [ :item |
>                 item
>                         contents: 'Tools' translated;
>                         addSubMenu: [ :menu |
>                                 self
>                                         browserMenuItemOn: menu;
>                                         workspaceMenuItemOn: menu;
>                                         transcriptMenuItemOn: menu;
>                                         testRunnerMenuItemOn: menu;
>                                         methodFinderMenuItemOn: menu;
>                                         messageNamesMenuItemOn: menu.
>                                 menu addLine.
>                                 self
> -                                       monticelloBrowserMenuItemOn: menu;
> -                                       monticelloConfigurationsMenuItemOn: menu;
>                                         simpleChangeSorterMenuItemOn: menu;
> +                                       dualChangeSorterMenuItemOn: menu;
> +                                       monticelloBrowserMenuItemOn: menu;
> +                                       monticelloConfigurationsMenuItemOn: menu ;
> +                                       metacelloMenuItemOn: menu ;
> +                                       gitInfrastructureMenuItemOn: menu.
> -                                       dualChangeSorterMenuItemOn: menu.
>                                 menu addLine.
>                                 self
>                                         processBrowserMenuItemOn: menu;
>                                         preferenceBrowserMenuItemOn: menu;
>                                         fileListMenuItemOn: menu.
>                         ] ]!
>
> Item was changed:
> + (PackageInfo named: 'Morphic') postscript: '"updated Tools menu"
> + TheWorldMainDockingBar updateInstances'!
> - (PackageInfo named: 'Morphic') postscript: 'TheWorldMainDockingBar updateInstances'!
>
>

> > Still I'd rather like to keep the Metacello item in the Do menu. Or Apps or Tools.
>
> Done.
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 5:46 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Chris Muller uploaded a new version of Morphic to project The Trunk:
> > http://source.squeak.org/trunk/Morphic-cmm.1484.mcz
> >
> > ==================== Summary ====================
> >
> > Name: Morphic-cmm.1484
> > Author: cmm
> > Time: 4 April 2019, 5:46:17.398582 pm
> > UUID: 5a57ba6f-fa15-44a3-9581-c919060f0378
> > Ancestors: Morphic-cmm.1483
> >
> > Metacello and GitInfrastructure tools are currently the best way to load projects hosted by github.com.  Promote installation of the these tools to the Tools menu.
> >
> > =============== Diff against Morphic-cmm.1483 ===============
> >
> > Item was added:
> > + ----- Method: TheWorldMainDockingBar>>gitInfrastructureMenuItemOn: (in category 'submenu - tools') -----
> > + gitInfrastructureMenuItemOn: menu
> > +       menu addItem:
> > +               [ : item | item
> > +                        contents: 'Git Infrastructure' translated ;
> > +                        help: 'Load tools for accessing github repositories.' translated ;
> > +                        icon: (self colorIcon: Color lightGray) ;
> > +                        target: Installer ;
> > +                        selector: #installGitInfrastructure ]!
> >
> > Item was added:
> > + ----- Method: TheWorldMainDockingBar>>metacelloMenuItemOn: (in category 'submenu - tools') -----
> > + metacelloMenuItemOn: menu
> > +       menu addItem:
> > +               [ : item | item
> > +                        contents: 'Metacello' translated ;
> > +                        help: 'Install Metacello' translated ;
> > +                        icon: (self colorIcon: Color lightGray) ;
> > +                        target: Installer ;
> > +                        selector: #ensureRecentMetacello ]!
> >
> > Item was changed:
> >   ----- Method: TheWorldMainDockingBar>>toolsMenuOn: (in category 'construction') -----
> >   toolsMenuOn: aDockingBar
> >
> >         aDockingBar addItem: [ :item |
> >                 item
> >                         contents: 'Tools' translated;
> >                         addSubMenu: [ :menu |
> >                                 self
> >                                         browserMenuItemOn: menu;
> >                                         workspaceMenuItemOn: menu;
> >                                         transcriptMenuItemOn: menu;
> >                                         testRunnerMenuItemOn: menu;
> >                                         methodFinderMenuItemOn: menu;
> >                                         messageNamesMenuItemOn: menu.
> >                                 menu addLine.
> >                                 self
> > -                                       monticelloBrowserMenuItemOn: menu;
> > -                                       monticelloConfigurationsMenuItemOn: menu;
> >                                         simpleChangeSorterMenuItemOn: menu;
> > +                                       dualChangeSorterMenuItemOn: menu;
> > +                                       monticelloBrowserMenuItemOn: menu;
> > +                                       monticelloConfigurationsMenuItemOn: menu ;
> > +                                       metacelloMenuItemOn: menu ;
> > +                                       gitInfrastructureMenuItemOn: menu.
> > -                                       dualChangeSorterMenuItemOn: menu.
> >                                 menu addLine.
> >                                 self
> >                                         processBrowserMenuItemOn: menu;
> >                                         preferenceBrowserMenuItemOn: menu;
> >                                         fileListMenuItemOn: menu.
> >                         ] ]!
> >
> > Item was changed:
> > + (PackageInfo named: 'Morphic') postscript: '"updated Tools menu"
> > + TheWorldMainDockingBar updateInstances'!
> > - (PackageInfo named: 'Morphic') postscript: 'TheWorldMainDockingBar updateInstances'!
> >
> >
>

>
> All menu options in Tools and Apps open some kind of tool or app.
> The #ensureRecentMetacello and #installGitInfrastructure actions
> are things that I want to do, not tools that I want to open.
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 05:49:25PM -0500, Chris Muller wrote:
> > > Still I'd rather like to keep the Metacello item in the Do menu. Or Apps or Tools.
> >
> > Done.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 5:46 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Chris Muller uploaded a new version of Morphic to project The Trunk:
> > > http://source.squeak.org/trunk/Morphic-cmm.1484.mcz
> > >
> > > ==================== Summary ====================
> > >
> > > Name: Morphic-cmm.1484
> > > Author: cmm
> > > Time: 4 April 2019, 5:46:17.398582 pm
> > > UUID: 5a57ba6f-fa15-44a3-9581-c919060f0378
> > > Ancestors: Morphic-cmm.1483
> > >
> > > Metacello and GitInfrastructure tools are currently the best way to load projects hosted by github.com.  Promote installation of the these tools to the Tools menu.
> > >
> > > =============== Diff against Morphic-cmm.1483 ===============
> > >
> > > Item was added:
> > > + ----- Method: TheWorldMainDockingBar>>gitInfrastructureMenuItemOn: (in category 'submenu - tools') -----
> > > + gitInfrastructureMenuItemOn: menu
> > > +       menu addItem:
> > > +               [ : item | item
> > > +                        contents: 'Git Infrastructure' translated ;
> > > +                        help: 'Load tools for accessing github repositories.' translated ;
> > > +                        icon: (self colorIcon: Color lightGray) ;
> > > +                        target: Installer ;
> > > +                        selector: #installGitInfrastructure ]!
> > >
> > > Item was added:
> > > + ----- Method: TheWorldMainDockingBar>>metacelloMenuItemOn: (in category 'submenu - tools') -----
> > > + metacelloMenuItemOn: menu
> > > +       menu addItem:
> > > +               [ : item | item
> > > +                        contents: 'Metacello' translated ;
> > > +                        help: 'Install Metacello' translated ;
> > > +                        icon: (self colorIcon: Color lightGray) ;
> > > +                        target: Installer ;
> > > +                        selector: #ensureRecentMetacello ]!
> > >
> > > Item was changed:
> > >   ----- Method: TheWorldMainDockingBar>>toolsMenuOn: (in category 'construction') -----
> > >   toolsMenuOn: aDockingBar
> > >
> > >         aDockingBar addItem: [ :item |
> > >                 item
> > >                         contents: 'Tools' translated;
> > >                         addSubMenu: [ :menu |
> > >                                 self
> > >                                         browserMenuItemOn: menu;
> > >                                         workspaceMenuItemOn: menu;
> > >                                         transcriptMenuItemOn: menu;
> > >                                         testRunnerMenuItemOn: menu;
> > >                                         methodFinderMenuItemOn: menu;
> > >                                         messageNamesMenuItemOn: menu.
> > >                                 menu addLine.
> > >                                 self
> > > -                                       monticelloBrowserMenuItemOn: menu;
> > > -                                       monticelloConfigurationsMenuItemOn: menu;
> > >                                         simpleChangeSorterMenuItemOn: menu;
> > > +                                       dualChangeSorterMenuItemOn: menu;
> > > +                                       monticelloBrowserMenuItemOn: menu;
> > > +                                       monticelloConfigurationsMenuItemOn: menu ;
> > > +                                       metacelloMenuItemOn: menu ;
> > > +                                       gitInfrastructureMenuItemOn: menu.
> > > -                                       dualChangeSorterMenuItemOn: menu.
> > >                                 menu addLine.
> > >                                 self
> > >                                         processBrowserMenuItemOn: menu;
> > >                                         preferenceBrowserMenuItemOn: menu;
> > >                                         fileListMenuItemOn: menu.
> > >                         ] ]!
> > >
> > > Item was changed:
> > > + (PackageInfo named: 'Morphic') postscript: '"updated Tools menu"
> > > + TheWorldMainDockingBar updateInstances'!
> > > - (PackageInfo named: 'Morphic') postscript: 'TheWorldMainDockingBar updateInstances'!
> > >
> > >
> >
>

> Hi guys,
>
> Marcel, we had a good discussion in the other thread (The Inbox:
> System-cmm.1059.mcz) which led to this temporary solution acceptable
> with at least Jakob and I.
>
> > The Tools menu is *not* about installing tools but starting them.
>
> I was under the assumption Metacello has a browser and intend for that
> menu item to open a Metacello browser after the #ensureMetacello.
> That preserves what Jakob wanted while one-upping the IDE
> functionality we have today.
>
> > Also, the "Do" menu is *not* for newcomers but for somewhat experienced programmers that are able to write and use small scripts to optimize the own workflow.
>
> Rather than disagree about what it is, perhaps we can agree that it
> _isn't_ a place for configuration within release image.  These tools
> deserve a better place than the Do menu, and Squeak deserves to have
> one unified way to load anything.  This takes it from three to two.
>
> > Just look at what is already in the Tools or Do menu and you can easily see these inherent characteristics. Please try to explain your decisions with more details. What is your perspective on the Tools menu?
>
> My perspective is that SCM "tools" like Simple and Dual Change sorter,
> Monticello and Monticello Configurations are available under the Tools
> menu.  It therefore makes sense to me that the next-level SCM tool
> built on top of Monticello would be right there, too.  Does Metacello
> have a browser at all, or will it?
>
> > For newcomers, they can evaluate a snippet in the workspace that includes installing such infrastructure. Just copy-and-paste from a readme.md or similar. Quite simple.
>
> Agreed, and I would even store such snippets in SqueakMap.
>
> because then I could add additional entries that contained whatever is
> in the README's, and then, instead of coming back from getting coffee
> to ONLY have Metacello loaded, I could have _everything_ loaded.  But
> that's not my business except to the extent I want Squeak release
> images to have the only the right tools in only the right places, so
> its not too confusing.
>
> > In the long term, we should find ways to ship such infrastructure in releases without spoiling the (development) trunk.
>
> I hope you mean as dynamically-loadable modules.  The release images
> are too big, IMO, we need to eventually try to get some things out
> (Etoys) so we can make room to bring more appropriate (core) stuff in.
>
> > Best,
> > Marcel
>
> Best,
>   Chris
>

> Hi Dave, we're discussing how to integrate these tools into the IDE
> more elegantly.  I'd like to hear your thoughts on how we can do that.
> So far, after much discussion, FIVE proposals* have made it to the
> table, at least one of which is good with both Jakob and I.
>
> 1. Tools or Apps menu.
> 2. Extending the System workspace
> 3.  SqueakMap
> 4. "ensureMetacello" at the top of README's.
> 5. Include all of it in trunk
>
> I appreciate your point about the consistency of Tools items opening a
> window or not, but this is benign and the Do menu is almost certainly
> not the university's "final solution" to configuration of github
> projects.  Its worth discussing how to elegantly include Squeak in
> these projects.  Please help.
>
>  - Chris
>
>

> Hi Dave, we're discussing how to integrate these tools into the IDE
> more elegantly.  I'd like to hear your thoughts on how we can do that.
> So far, after much discussion, FIVE proposals* have made it to the
> table, at least one of which is good with both Jakob and I.
>
> 1. Tools or Apps menu.
> 2. Extending the System workspace
> 3.  SqueakMap
> 4. "ensureMetacello" at the top of README's.
> 5. Include all of it in trunk
>

> On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 11:28:46PM -0500, Chris Muller wrote:
> > Hi Dave, we're discussing how to integrate these tools into the IDE
> > more elegantly.  I'd like to hear your thoughts on how we can do that.
> > So far, after much discussion, FIVE proposals* have made it to the
> > table, at least one of which is good with both Jakob and I.
> >
> > 1. Tools or Apps menu.
> > 2. Extending the System workspace
> > 3.  SqueakMap
> > 4. "ensureMetacello" at the top of README's.
> > 5. Include all of it in trunk
> >
>
> I explained my preference in the last email. You can also find it in
> the inbox as System-dtl.1059.

> > I appreciate your point about the consistency of Tools items opening a
> > window or not, but this is benign and the Do menu is almost certainly
> > not the university's "final solution" to configuration of github
> > projects.  Its worth discussing how to elegantly include Squeak in
> > these projects.  Please help.
> >
>
> I'm quite interested in the topic of how best to use git with Squeak.
> I see several different approaches in circulation now (in Cuis, in
> Pharo, and the Squit/Squat tools),

> > On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 11:28:46PM -0500, Chris Muller wrote:
> > > Hi Dave, we're discussing how to integrate these tools into the IDE
> > > more elegantly.  I'd like to hear your thoughts on how we can do that.
> > > So far, after much discussion, FIVE proposals* have made it to the
> > > table, at least one of which is good with both Jakob and I.
> > >
> > > 1. Tools or Apps menu.
> > > 2. Extending the System workspace
> > > 3.  SqueakMap
> > > 4. "ensureMetacello" at the top of README's.
> > > 5. Include all of it in trunk
> > >
> >
> > I explained my preference in the last email. You can also find it in
> > the inbox as System-dtl.1059.
>
> a.k.a., Hannes' proposal 0.