The Trunk: System-ul.477.mcz
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Levente Uzonyi uploaded a new version of System to project The Trunk:
http://source.squeak.org/trunk/System-ul.477.mcz ==================== Summary ==================== Name: System-ul.477 Author: ul Time: 30 March 2012, 12:27:45.894 pm UUID: fb2ac551-9367-134f-9872-2f65037f69ff Ancestors: System-dtl.476 - restored the original behavior of SystemNavigation >> #allCallsOn:from:, so it returns calls in subclasses too - temporarily restored NaturalLanguageTranslator class >> #translationSuffix so FileList can be used again =============== Diff against System-dtl.476 =============== Item was added: + ----- Method: NaturalLanguageTranslator class>>translationSuffix (in category 'accessing') ----- + translationSuffix + + ^'translation'! Item was changed: ----- Method: SystemNavigation>>allCallsOn:from: (in category 'query') ----- allCallsOn: aSymbol from: aBehavior + "Answer a sorted collection of all the methods from aBehavior and it's subclasses that call on aSymbol." - "Answer a sorted collection of all the methods from aBehavior that call on aSymbol." + ^self allCallsOn: aSymbol fromBehaviors: aBehavior withAllSubclasses sorted: true! - ^self allCallsOn: aSymbol fromBehaviors: { aBehavior } sorted: true! |
FW: [squeak-dev] The Trunk: System-ul.477.mcz
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------ Forwarded Message > From: <[hidden email]> > Reply-To: <[hidden email]> > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:56:29.998 0000 > To: <[hidden email]>, > <[hidden email]> > Subject: [squeak-dev] The Trunk: System-ul.477.mcz > > Levente Uzonyi uploaded a new version of System to project The Trunk: > http://source.squeak.org/trunk/System-ul.477.mcz > > ==================== Summary ==================== > > Name: System-ul.477 > Author: ul > Time: 30 March 2012, 12:27:45.894 pm > UUID: fb2ac551-9367-134f-9872-2f65037f69ff > Ancestors: System-dtl.476 > > - restored the original behavior of SystemNavigation >> #allCallsOn:from:, so > it returns calls in subclasses too > - temporarily restored NaturalLanguageTranslator class >> #translationSuffix > so FileList can be used again > > =============== Diff against System-dtl.476 =============== > > Item was added: > + ----- Method: NaturalLanguageTranslator class>>translationSuffix (in > category 'accessing') ----- > + translationSuffix > + > + ^'translation'! > > Item was changed: > ----- Method: SystemNavigation>>allCallsOn:from: (in category 'query') ----- > allCallsOn: aSymbol from: aBehavior > + "Answer a sorted collection of all the methods from aBehavior and it's > subclasses that call on aSymbol." > - "Answer a sorted collection of all the methods from aBehavior that call on > aSymbol." > > + ^self allCallsOn: aSymbol fromBehaviors: aBehavior withAllSubclasses > sorted: true! > - ^self allCallsOn: aSymbol fromBehaviors: { aBehavior } sorted: true! ------ End of Forwarded Message I working.... Maybe not enough smart or not enough fast. But I found the trouble Nicolas report and delete all file-services in NaturalLanguageTranslator And do FileList initialize Save the Squeak4.4-11969.image and when restarting no problem. Figuring how traslate this to trunk as "we don't like have working .image in ftp" Maybe I should learn to have my mouth closed and do not volunteering. But Squeak is in comatose state. If my mistakes awake some Masters, then so be it Regards Edgar |
Re: The Trunk: System-ul.477.mcz
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On 30.03.2012, at 13:39, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote: > > ------ Forwarded Message >> From: <[hidden email]> >> Reply-To: <[hidden email]> >> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:56:29.998 0000 >> To: <[hidden email]>, >> <[hidden email]> >> Subject: [squeak-dev] The Trunk: System-ul.477.mcz >> >> Levente Uzonyi uploaded a new version of System to project The Trunk: >> http://source.squeak.org/trunk/System-ul.477.mcz >> >> ==================== Summary ==================== >> >> Name: System-ul.477 >> Author: ul >> Time: 30 March 2012, 12:27:45.894 pm >> UUID: fb2ac551-9367-134f-9872-2f65037f69ff >> Ancestors: System-dtl.476 >> >> - restored the original behavior of SystemNavigation >> #allCallsOn:from:, so >> it returns calls in subclasses too >> - temporarily restored NaturalLanguageTranslator class >> #translationSuffix >> so FileList can be used again >> >> =============== Diff against System-dtl.476 =============== >> >> Item was added: >> + ----- Method: NaturalLanguageTranslator class>>translationSuffix (in >> category 'accessing') ----- >> + translationSuffix >> + >> + ^'translation'! >> >> Item was changed: >> ----- Method: SystemNavigation>>allCallsOn:from: (in category 'query') ----- >> allCallsOn: aSymbol from: aBehavior >> + "Answer a sorted collection of all the methods from aBehavior and it's >> subclasses that call on aSymbol." >> - "Answer a sorted collection of all the methods from aBehavior that call on >> aSymbol." >> >> + ^self allCallsOn: aSymbol fromBehaviors: aBehavior withAllSubclasses >> sorted: true! >> - ^self allCallsOn: aSymbol fromBehaviors: { aBehavior } sorted: true! > > ------ End of Forwarded Message > > > I working.... > > Maybe not enough smart or not enough fast. > > But I found the trouble Nicolas report and delete all file-services in > NaturalLanguageTranslator > And do FileList initialize > > Save the Squeak4.4-11969.image and when restarting no problem. > > Figuring how traslate this to trunk as "we don't like have working .image in > ftp" > > Maybe I should learn to have my mouth closed and do not volunteering. > But Squeak is in comatose state. > > If my mistakes awake some Masters, then so be it > > Regards > > Edgar Not everyone can download a new image you made by hand. We have our working images with all kinds of stuff in it, and we want to update those images, not switching to new ones. Also, the package history serves as a record of what changed. That's why it is important to fix the stuff in the Trunk packages, and not fiddle with images. The images on the ftp server are pretty much only for release, and release test candidates. - Bert - |
Re: The Trunk: System-ul.477.mcz
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On 3/30/12 9:51 AM, "Bert Freudenberg" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Not everyone can download a new image you made by hand. We have our working > images with all kinds of stuff in it, and we want to update those images, not > switching to new ones. Also, the package history serves as a record of what > changed. That's why it is important to fix the stuff in the Trunk packages, > and not fiddle with images. The images on the ftp server are pretty much only > for release, and release test candidates. > > - Bert - > > Index of /4.3alpha Name <http://ftp.squeak.org/4.3alpha/?C=N;O=D> Last modified <http://ftp.squeak.org/4.3alpha/?C=M;O=A> Size <http://ftp.squeak.org/4.3alpha/?C=S;O=A> Description <http://ftp.squeak.org/4.3alpha/?C=D;O=A> Parent Directory <http://ftp.squeak.org/> - Squeak4.3alpha-11157.zip <http://ftp.squeak.org/4.3alpha/Squeak4.3alpha-11157.zip> 23-Mar-2011 21:58 8.7M Squeak4.3alpha-11314.zip <http://ftp.squeak.org/4.3alpha/Squeak4.3alpha-11314.zip> 17-Apr-2011 20:54 7.7M Squeak4.3alpha-11481.zip <http://ftp.squeak.org/4.3alpha/Squeak4.3alpha-11481.zip> 13-Jun-2011 14:41 7.8M Squeak4.3alpha-11636.zip <http://ftp.squeak.org/4.3alpha/Squeak4.3alpha-11636.zip> 19-Aug-2011 09:45 8.4M Squeak4.3alpha-11722.zip <http://ftp.squeak.org/4.3alpha/Squeak4.3alpha-11722.zip> 11-Oct-2011 10:56 8.9M Squeak4.3alpha-11777.zip <http://ftp.squeak.org/4.3alpha/Squeak4.3alpha-11777.zip> 11-Nov-2011 09:10 8.2M Squeak4.3gamma-11793.zip <http://ftp.squeak.org/4.3alpha/Squeak4.3gamma-11793.zip> 19-Nov-2011 12:05 8.2M SqueakCore4.3alpha-11722.zip <http://ftp.squeak.org/4.3alpha/SqueakCore4.3alpha-11722.zip> 11-Oct-2011 10:58 6.1M So we did this before And when we have Jenkins as our cousins Pharopatas have, each time you get a new .image. Can I build a non Cog .image from 4.3 ? We don't have it and many miss last development. With old Squeak 4.2.5beta1U of John I have my own derivates running on old G4 Power Pc. I think a lot of this is still around in USA schools.... But I follow directives. I put GetText-edc.22 in trunk but do not do updates for people test before. Levente was right, I move .image and .changes to Etoys folder where all external directories lives and LocaleTest goes green. Maybe the solution could be doing a OneClick like Etoys , but with Squeak 4.4 alpha inside. This have all any need. Edgar P.S. Cuando falta talento es necesario trabajar mas When you lack talent is necessary to work more |
Re: The Trunk: System-ul.477.mcz
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In reply to this post by Bert Freudenberg
Hi Edgar,
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:51 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
I just wanted to second what Bert is saying. Images are wonderful because one can tailor them, but they can become a prison from which your code can never escape, and from which you can never move forward, *unless* they can be updated automatically. Note that the Monticello update process does a merge by default so you can even update modified packages to a certain degree. So keeping the update process working is *really, really* valuable and hence *really* worth the effort. If (as we should) we all have our own tailored images then we can't expect anyone else to use our images, because we would be inflicting our tailoring on them and asking them to give up the tailoring they had done. We all have to be free to tailor in our own way. So forcing people to download a non-release image to update code is simply unacceptable.
Courage, and thanks so much for your efforts!
-- best, Eliot |
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