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The Wisdom of the Crowd Redux

horrido
I'm glad people in the programming community are recognizing the value of Smalltalk: The Wisdom of the Crowd. I was very pleasantly surprised by this.
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Ben Coman
nice article. thanks for sharing.
cheers -ben

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 4:14 AM, horrido <[hidden email]> wrote:
I'm glad people in the programming community are recognizing the value of
Smalltalk:  The Wisdom of the Crowd
<https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-wisdom-of-the-crowd-c7aff954bd5f>  . I
was very pleasantly surprised by this.



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Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2

Yes, thanks for sharing it Richard.

For me the issue with wisdom of the crowd arguments is, as you point at the end of the article, that also crowd can be pretty stupid, so when/how you difference between both cases? At some point seems like crowd is wise when they share my opinion and dumb when they don't. A different argument I have found in favor or non-popular but powerful languages is made by Matthew Butterick[1] in the case of Lisp/Racket by deconstructing the ad-populum falacy (something is good, because is popular) and then going beyond the frequent flattery of authoritative voices, giving real examples from a first person perspective. I think that is an interesting and novel approach for advocacy.

[1] http://practicaltypography.com/why-racket-why-lisp.html

Cheers,

Offray

On 22/08/17 12:09, Ben Coman wrote:
nice article. thanks for sharing.
cheers -ben

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 4:14 AM, horrido <[hidden email]> wrote:
I'm glad people in the programming community are recognizing the value of
Smalltalk:  The Wisdom of the Crowd
<https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-wisdom-of-the-crowd-c7aff954bd5f>  . I
was very pleasantly surprised by this.



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horrido
Quite right. When you tout the wisdom of the crowd, you have to back it up with simple, persuasive arguments. That's what my blog series over the past three years have been all about! I just keep hammering away at the same simple, persuasive arguments again and again and again and again. Ad nauseum.

Similarly, if I insult your favourite language, whether that's C or JavaScript or Common Lisp, I better back it up with clear points.


Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote
Yes, thanks for sharing it Richard.

For me the issue with wisdom of the crowd arguments is, as you point at
the end of the article, that also crowd can be pretty stupid, so
when/how you difference between both cases? At some point seems like
crowd is wise when they share my opinion and dumb when they don't. A
different argument I have found in favor or non-popular but powerful
languages is made by Matthew Butterick[1] in the case of Lisp/Racket by
deconstructing the ad-populum falacy (something is good, because is
popular) and then going beyond the frequent flattery of authoritative
voices, giving real examples from a first person perspective. I think
that is an interesting and novel approach for advocacy.

[1] http://practicaltypography.com/why-racket-why-lisp.html

Cheers,

Offray

On 22/08/17 12:09, Ben Coman wrote:
> nice article. thanks for sharing.
> cheers -ben
>
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 4:14 AM, horrido <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     I'm glad people in the programming community are recognizing the
>     value of
>     Smalltalk:  The Wisdom of the Crowd
>     <https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-wisdom-of-the-crowd-c7aff954bd5f
>     <https://medium.com/@richardeng/the-wisdom-of-the-crowd-c7aff954bd5f>>
>     . I
>     was very pleasantly surprised by this.
>
>
>
>     --
>     View this message in context:
>     http://forum.world.st/The-Wisdom-of-the-Crowd-Redux-tp4963261.html
>     <http://forum.world.st/The-Wisdom-of-the-Crowd-Redux-tp4963261.html>
>     Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at
>     Nabble.com.
>
>