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The old inisqueak problem on Linux

Heiko Schroeder
Dear list,

perhaps some of you are aware of this old problem: Installing Squeak 3.9.8
under Linux by description is impossible.

- the inisqueak command is missing
- the author of the manpage ian pumarta presents a wrong address
- a second one can be found in the INSTALL file which is wrong as well

I reported this problem more than a year ago several times, but there has been
no change up to now. It is a pity, since Squeak is that splendid.

Regards Heiko
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Re: The old inisqueak problem on Linux

Michael van der Gulik-3
Heiko Schroeder wrote:

> Dear list,
>
> perhaps some of you are aware of this old problem: Installing Squeak 3.9.8
> under Linux by description is impossible.
>
> - the inisqueak command is missing
> - the author of the manpage ian pumarta presents a wrong address
> - a second one can be found in the INSTALL file which is wrong as well
>
> I reported this problem more than a year ago several times, but there has been
> no change up to now. It is a pity, since Squeak is that splendid.
>  
Hi Heiko.

Which instructions are you following?

Which package are you installing? Are you installing the package that
comes with your Linux distribution or the one from http://squeak.org?

I shall investigate this issue further and raise a bug report if there
are problems.

Regards,
Michael.
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Re: The old inisqueak problem on Linux

Michael van der Gulik-3
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Heiko Schroeder wrote:

> Dear list,
>
> perhaps some of you are aware of this old problem: Installing Squeak 3.9.8
> under Linux by description is impossible.
>
> - the inisqueak command is missing
> - the author of the manpage ian pumarta presents a wrong address
> - a second one can be found in the INSTALL file which is wrong as well
>
> I reported this problem more than a year ago several times, but there has been
> no change up to now. It is a pity, since Squeak is that splendid.
>
> Regards Heiko
>  
This bug is currently open on our bug reporting system. If I find the
time, I will fix it up.

http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6368

Let me know if you find any more issues.

Regards,
Michael.
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Re: The old inisqueak problem on Linux

Heiko Schroeder
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Hi Michael,.
>
> Which instructions are you following?
The instructions which follow after the successive run of the INSTALL-script.  
The instructions about inisqueak are written on the manpage of squeak and
inisqueak as well.

BTW I do not have the problem to get Squeak run by myself. I know what to do.
But it is entirely different to the instructions given. And I think about
those who want to get acquainted to Squeak for the first time.


>
> Which package are you installing?
The package from www.squeak.org.

> Are you installing the package that
> comes with your Linux distribution?
Are there already such distributions? I wonder why SuSE does not have
integrated Squeak yet.

> I shall investigate this issue further and raise a bug report if there
> are problems.
As you said, there is a bug report already done in March this year. I did
several bug reports last year. But I cannot see any changes.

Regards Heiko

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Re: The old inisqueak problem on Linux

John Foster-3
> Hi Michael,.
>>

<snip>

>> Are you installing the package that
>> comes with your Linux distribution?
> Are there already such distributions? I wonder why SuSE does not have
> integrated Squeak yet.
>

Debian doesn't include Squeak in main because Squeak-L is not DFSG
compliant.  According to a note at the bottom of
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3733 (Squeak in Debian) dated 3 October 2006
Steve Jobs told Alan Kay he is willing to re-licence Squeak under the
Apache Licence so it can be used in the OLPC system.  Has this happened?
Will it happen?

I think that if Debian was convinced that Squeak could be safely
redistributed by them then most other GNU/Linux distributors would follow
suit (especialy Ubuntu and Edubuntu).

>> I shall investigate this issue further and raise a bug report if there
>> are problems.
> As you said, there is a bug report already done in March this year. I did
> several bug reports last year. But I cannot see any changes.
>
> Regards Heiko


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Re: The old inisqueak problem on Linux

Michael van der Gulik-2
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On 8/23/07, Heiko Schroeder <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Are you installing the package that
> comes with your Linux distribution?
Are there already such distributions? I wonder why SuSE does not have
integrated Squeak yet.

Ubuntu 7.04 seems to have Squeak with a 3.8 image available.

However, because I occasionally build my own VMs, I prefer to keep everything related to a particular project in the same directory - VM, plugins, image, sources. By not installing Squeak in /usr/local (or some other global place) I know that my VM isn't pulling in plugins from elsewhere.

Michael.

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