Due to my _L_I_N_U_X_ computer's utter and complete inability to render
3D graphics, I'm pondering my first upgrade in four years. The machine was built in the fall of 2003. While it remains _GROSSLY EXCESSIVE_ for all my daily needs, wants, desires, and plans, it can't do Croquet in it's current state. =( My first idea was a Sun workstation. It supports OpenGL 1.5 without Windows (HURRAY), and is not a pukey x86. -- I think I can save up the $10,000 in about a year's time. Another idea is to fill one (or both!) of my 64 bit PCI slots with a Clear Speed board. The point being to maximize the machine's ability to support realtime raytracing. Let the owners of rasterization engines wallow in obsolescence. ;) Still, it's 8,000 and I'd take the risk that I wouldn't be able to convert OpenCroquet to use realtime RT... Or, I could suck it up and get the new many x86 (ugh) Apple workstation for about as much as the Sun. =\ However, the future of personal computing is looking brighter than it has in a decade. The nascant backlash against Vista will surely ruin Microsoft. If you look at Microsoft's balance sheets, you will see that their core (and only) profit center in Windows and Office, are holding the rest of their loss-making empire together. As this customer-driven revolution picks up steam, who knows how quickly the status quo will crumble? I can only hope that Microsoft won't be able to get it's act together! =P -- Opera: Sing it loud! :o( )>-< |
Alan Grimes wrote:
> Due to my _L_I_N_U_X_ computer's utter and complete inability to render > 3D graphics, I'm pondering my first upgrade in four years. The machine > was built in the fall of 2003. While it remains _GROSSLY EXCESSIVE_ for > all my daily needs, wants, desires, and plans, it can't do Croquet in > it's current state. =( > > My first idea was a Sun workstation. It supports OpenGL 1.5 without > Windows (HURRAY), and is not a pukey x86. -- I think I can save up the > $10,000 in about a year's time. > > Another idea is to fill one (or both!) of my 64 bit PCI slots with a > Clear Speed board. The point being to maximize the machine's ability to > support realtime raytracing. Let the owners of rasterization engines > wallow in obsolescence. ;) Still, it's 8,000 and I'd take the risk that > I wouldn't be able to convert OpenCroquet to use realtime RT... > > Or, I could suck it up and get the new many x86 (ugh) Apple workstation > for about as much as the Sun. =\ > > However, the future of personal computing is looking brighter than it > has in a decade. The nascant backlash against Vista will surely ruin > Microsoft. If you look at Microsoft's balance sheets, you will see that > their core (and only) profit center in Windows and Office, are holding > the rest of their loss-making empire together. As this customer-driven > revolution picks up steam, who knows how quickly the status quo will > crumble? I can only hope that Microsoft won't be able to get it's act > together! =P > Why not get an Nvidia 5200 based card? That's where you really need the speed for Croquet. And, it'll only cost you about $40 from newegg. brad -- brad fuller www.bradfuller.com +1 (408) 799-6124 |
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Whoa, you're having trouble getting Croquet running on Linux, and
you're considering buying a Sun workstation. That's C-R-A-Z-Y, my friend. I don't recall hearing anyone trying to run Croquet on a Sun (let alone succeeding). Just buy a Mac Pro or MacBook Pro (or even a MacBook, although I find the graphics card to be pretty wimpy) and be happy. Josh On Apr 5, 2007, at 7:28 PM, Alan Grimes wrote: > Due to my _L_I_N_U_X_ computer's utter and complete inability to > render > 3D graphics, I'm pondering my first upgrade in four years. The > machine > was built in the fall of 2003. While it remains _GROSSLY EXCESSIVE_ > for > all my daily needs, wants, desires, and plans, it can't do Croquet in > it's current state. =( > > My first idea was a Sun workstation. It supports OpenGL 1.5 without > Windows (HURRAY), and is not a pukey x86. -- I think I can save up the > $10,000 in about a year's time. > > Another idea is to fill one (or both!) of my 64 bit PCI slots with a > Clear Speed board. The point being to maximize the machine's > ability to > support realtime raytracing. Let the owners of rasterization engines > wallow in obsolescence. ;) Still, it's 8,000 and I'd take the risk > that > I wouldn't be able to convert OpenCroquet to use realtime RT... > > Or, I could suck it up and get the new many x86 (ugh) Apple > workstation > for about as much as the Sun. =\ > > However, the future of personal computing is looking brighter than it > has in a decade. The nascant backlash against Vista will surely ruin > Microsoft. If you look at Microsoft's balance sheets, you will see > that > their core (and only) profit center in Windows and Office, are holding > the rest of their loss-making empire together. As this customer-driven > revolution picks up steam, who knows how quickly the status quo will > crumble? I can only hope that Microsoft won't be able to get it's act > together! =P > > > -- > Opera: Sing it loud! :o( )>-< |
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> What's the speed of your CPU? It can't be that slow if built in 2003.
> Why not get an Nvidia 5200 based card? That's where you really need the > speed for Croquet. And, it'll only cost you about $40 from newegg. That's because I bought my current card for the exact same reason after doing extensive research, sucessfully experamenting with a vastly inferior card, and paying a goodly chunk of change. It worked -- briefly. WON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!!! -- Opera: Sing it loud! :o( )>-< |
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buy a MacBook Pro
it just works. On Apr 5, 2007, at 9:37 PM, Joshua Gargus wrote: > Whoa, you're having trouble getting Croquet running on Linux, and > you're considering buying a Sun workstation. That's C-R-A-Z-Y, my > friend. I don't recall hearing anyone trying to run Croquet on a > Sun (let alone succeeding). > > Just buy a Mac Pro or MacBook Pro (or even a MacBook, although I > find the graphics card to be pretty wimpy) and be happy. > > Josh > |
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On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 21:28 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote:
> Due to my _L_I_N_U_X_ computer's utter and complete inability to render > 3D graphics, I'm pondering my first upgrade in four years. The machine > was built in the fall of 2003. While it remains _GROSSLY EXCESSIVE_ for > all my daily needs, wants, desires, and plans, it can't do Croquet in > it's current state. =( Alan, I have literally had to wail on my machine to get croquet to run under FC6 and an nVidia 5200 video card. The problem, as I have managed to resolve it so far, is to install the mesa-libGL packages. I've had little luck using the libGL that is on the card. I dunno why, except that it provides only version 1.4 and using the software I can get openGL version 2.0. Write me directly and we'll work on getting your's running, if at all possible. I've been all around the block and may have acquired something <taps noggin> that might be of use to you. Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net ================================================ |
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Alan Grimes wrote:
>> What's the speed of your CPU? It can't be that slow if built in 2003. >> Why not get an Nvidia 5200 based card? That's where you really need the >> speed for Croquet. And, it'll only cost you about $40 from newegg. >> > > That's because I bought my current card for the exact same reason after > doing extensive research, sucessfully experamenting with a vastly > inferior card, and paying a goodly chunk of change. It worked -- briefly. > > WON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!!! > > > running ubuntu edgy runs croquet out of the box. |
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On 2007 April 6 01:01, Alan Grimes wrote:
> > What's the speed of your CPU? It can't be that slow if built in 2003. > > Why not get an Nvidia 5200 based card? That's where you really need the > > speed for Croquet. And, it'll only cost you about $40 from newegg. > > That's because I bought my current card for the exact same reason after > doing extensive research, sucessfully experamenting with a vastly > inferior card, and paying a goodly chunk of change. It worked -- briefly. What video card do you now have? I use - NVidia 5200 - OpenSuse 10.2 - This process works: - Go to Online Update - Select "Installable and installed software" - click on "NVidia proprietary drive" (ok I know) - restart X - OpenGL works I realize there are annoyingly too many admin programs in various Linux versions, but at least one works (actually I know others do too, but have not recently used it) In the past I had a problem something kept symlinking /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/libMesaGL.so instead of /usr/lib/libNVidia.....so You may want to check 'ls -l /usr/lib/*GL*' and send it here... Milan > > WON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!!! |
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