Time for a new election in squeak.org soon

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Time for a new election in squeak.org soon

Göran Krampe
Hi all!

This is a post to the Squeak election-list, but I am CCing to squeak-dev
AND pharo (just to keep you guys in the loop).

NOTE: If you reply to this post, no need to harass the pharo list with
the actual thread, let's keep that on squeak-dev/election-list.

Ken Causey wrote (on the election list):
> It's coming up another Squeak Oversight Board election season.
> There's a bit of time yet but if you have any thoughts of making any
> significant changes this year, it's time to get started on that.

Yeah, I know. :) I haven't had the energy to get it all going yet...

Community check:

- Are there any "ideas" about changes to the election process?

- Are we satisfied with how it all works or are there things we need to
address?

- Does the SOB have any thoughts on it (although of course partial to
the issue)?

This was last year:

http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6116

...the first post usually explains how it works:

http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2009-February/133840.html

regards Göran

PS. I still consider Pharo and Squeak to be highly intertwined
communities so input from Pharons/Pharaos/Pharooosies/p... ah, what are
you guys called? :) ...is also welcome.


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Re: Time for a new election in squeak.org soon

Edgar J. De Cleene



On 1/14/10 7:19 AM, "Göran Krampe" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>  Pharons/Pharaos/Pharooosies/p... ah, what are
> you guys called? :) ...is also welcome

Pharopatas and they choose go away , so why we care about people who don't
wish be with us ?

Edgar




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Re: Time for a new election in squeak.org soon

Göran Krampe
Hi!

Edgar J. De Cleene wrote:
> On 1/14/10 7:19 AM, "Göran Krampe" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>  Pharons/Pharaos/Pharooosies/p... ah, what are
>> you guys called? :) ...is also welcome
>
> Pharopatas and they choose go away , so why we care about people who don't
> wish be with us ?

Because the world is not black and white. A lot of us are actually
involved in *both* Squeak and Pharo - I currently use both depending on
what I want to do. And we share the VM. And we share tons of code and
tons of projects, etc etc.

The *they* you mention above includes me (although I never "went away").

So yes, I care a lot about Pharo and the Pharies, and being
confrontational is *IMHO* silly and terribly counter productive.

regards, Göran


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Re: Time for a new election in squeak.org soon

Bert Freudenberg
On 14.01.2010, at 15:28, Göran Krampe wrote:

>
> Hi!
>
> Edgar J. De Cleene wrote:
>> On 1/14/10 7:19 AM, "Göran Krampe" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Pharons/Pharaos/Pharooosies/p... ah, what are
>>> you guys called? :) ...is also welcome
>> Pharopatas and they choose go away , so why we care about people who don't
>> wish be with us ?
>
> Because the world is not black and white. A lot of us are actually involved in *both* Squeak and Pharo - I currently use both depending on what I want to do. And we share the VM. And we share tons of code and tons of projects, etc etc.
>
> The *they* you mention above includes me (although I never "went away").
>
> So yes, I care a lot about Pharo and the Pharies, and being confrontational is *IMHO* silly and terribly counter productive.
>
> regards, Göran

Agreed. I'd like to see more cross-fertilization and less bashing. In particular from Squeakers. Pharoers had their reasons to leave, but I'd much rather see bridges built than burned.

- Bert -



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Re: Time for a new election in squeak.org soon

Randal L. Schwartz
>>>>> "Bert" == Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> writes:

Bert> Agreed. I'd like to see more cross-fertilization and less bashing. In
Bert> particular from Squeakers. Pharoers had their reasons to leave, but I'd
Bert> much rather see bridges built than burned.

Hear, hear.

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Re: Time for a new election in squeak.org soon

Igor Stasenko
In reply to this post by Göran Krampe
2010/1/14 Göran Krampe <[hidden email]>:

> Hi!
>
> Edgar J. De Cleene wrote:
>>
>> On 1/14/10 7:19 AM, "Göran Krampe" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Pharons/Pharaos/Pharooosies/p... ah, what are
>>> you guys called? :) ...is also welcome
>>
>> Pharopatas and they choose go away , so why we care about people who don't
>> wish be with us ?
>
> Because the world is not black and white. A lot of us are actually involved
> in *both* Squeak and Pharo - I currently use both depending on what I want
> to do. And we share the VM. And we share tons of code and tons of projects,
> etc etc.
>
> The *they* you mention above includes me (although I never "went away").
>
> So yes, I care a lot about Pharo and the Pharies, and being confrontational
> is *IMHO* silly and terribly counter productive.
>

Amen, brother! :)

> regards, Göran
>
>
>



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