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Sebastian Sastre-2

To keep := instead of forcing automatically a _ for assingation

Hi there,

anybody know if there is a way to disable the automatic change of := for _ in squeak? I'm using 3.9 and every time I compile a method I get the code forced to _ where I take the job to write := and, additionally makes that code useless outside Squeak by a silly syntax reason unless postprocessed.

Any clue appreciated,

cheers,

Sebastian

Michael Davies-2

Re: To keep := instead of forcing automatically a _ for assingation

On 13/05/07, Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> anybody know if there is a way to disable the automatic change of := for
> _ in squeak? I'm using 3.9 and every time I compile a method I get the code
> forced to _ where I take the job to write := and, additionally makes that
> code useless outside Squeak by a silly syntax reason unless postprocessed.
>
Hi Sebastian,
open the preference browser and check syntaxHighlightingAsYouTypeAnsiAssignment

Cheers,
Michael

Sebastian Sastre-2

RE: To keep := instead of forcing automatically a _ for assingation

Nice! I'll better have a deeper look into this preferences browser he he

thanks a lot

Sebastian Sastre

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] En
> nombre de Michael Davies
> Enviado el: Domingo, 13 de Mayo de 2007 19:55
> Para: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Asunto: Re: To keep := instead of forcing automatically a _
> for assingation
>
> On 13/05/07, Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > anybody know if there is a way to disable the automatic
> change of
> > := for _ in squeak? I'm using 3.9 and every time I compile
> a method I
> > get the code forced to _ where I take the job to write := and,
> > additionally makes that code useless outside Squeak by a
> silly syntax reason unless postprocessed.
> >
> Hi Sebastian,
> open the preference browser and check
> syntaxHighlightingAsYouTypeAnsiAssignment
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
>

Chris Muller-3

Re: To keep := instead of forcing automatically a _ for assingation

I look forward to when both of these options are removed from the
standard image. Then it will do what it always should have, nothing.
Just keep what the user typed. Until then, unchecking both of them
will do just that.

On 5/14/07, Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Nice! I'll better have a deeper look into this preferences browser he he
>
> thanks a lot
>
> Sebastian Sastre
>
>
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]] En
> > nombre de Michael Davies
> > Enviado el: Domingo, 13 de Mayo de 2007 19:55
> > Para: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> > Asunto: Re: To keep := instead of forcing automatically a _
> > for assingation
> >
> > On 13/05/07, Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > anybody know if there is a way to disable the automatic
> > change of
> > > := for _ in squeak? I'm using 3.9 and every time I compile
> > a method I
> > > get the code forced to _ where I take the job to write := and,
> > > additionally makes that code useless outside Squeak by a
> > silly syntax reason unless postprocessed.
> > >
> > Hi Sebastian,
> > open the preference browser and check
> > syntaxHighlightingAsYouTypeAnsiAssignment
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michael
> >
>
>
>

Andrew Tween

Re: To keep := instead of forcing automatically a _ for assingation

Hi,
> I look forward to when both of these options are removed from the
> standard image.

Those options are not part of the standard image; they are added by Shout, and
Shout is not part of the standard image.

> Then it will do what it always should have, nothing.
> Just keep what the user typed. Until then, unchecking both of them
> will do just that.

In recent releases of Shout, the default values for those preferences are both
unchecked (i.e. preserve what the user typed).
I wonder if the original poster is using an old version of Shout? (or perhaps an
image that has contained an older version of Shout in the past).

Does anyone know what the plan is for 3.10?
Is := to be the only allowable assignment operator, or will _ still be
supported?

Cheers,
Andy

Sebastian Sastre-2

RE: To keep := instead of forcing automatically a _ for assingation

Hi Andrew,

I was the one who asked and is a 3.9 image and I do use Shout
looking in squeak map the * is in the 4 version. Is that old? Should I
better load it from squeaksource instead squeak map?

It's OK to stop using _ for assignation for me (it'll make a little
easier that squeak code to be exported for whatever reason)

cheers,

Sebastian Sastre

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] En
> nombre de Andrew Tween
> Enviado el: Martes, 15 de Mayo de 2007 06:18
> Para: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Asunto: Re: To keep := instead of forcing automatically a _
> for assingation
>
> Hi,
> > I look forward to when both of these options are removed from the
> > standard image.
>
> Those options are not part of the standard image; they are
> added by Shout, and Shout is not part of the standard image.
>
> > Then it will do what it always should have, nothing.
> > Just keep what the user typed. Until then, unchecking both of them
> > will do just that.
>
> In recent releases of Shout, the default values for those
> preferences are both unchecked (i.e. preserve what the user typed).
> I wonder if the original poster is using an old version of
> Shout? (or perhaps an image that has contained an older
> version of Shout in the past).
>
> Does anyone know what the plan is for 3.10?
> Is := to be the only allowable assignment operator, or will _
> still be supported?
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>

Andrew Tween

Re: To keep := instead of forcing automatically a _ for assingation

Hi Sebastian,
> I was the one who asked and is a 3.9 image and I do use Shout
> looking in squeak map the * is in the 4 version. Is that old? Should I
> better load it from squeaksource instead squeak map?

It is best to use the latest version from squeakMap (which is currently
Shout.3.15-tween.70)

Cheers,
Andy

Damien Cassou-3

Re: To keep := instead of forcing automatically a _ for assingation

2007/5/15, Andrew Tween <[hidden email]>:
> Hi Sebastian,
> > I was the one who asked and is a 3.9 image and I do use Shout
> > looking in squeak map the * is in the 4 version. Is that old? Should I
> > better load it from squeaksource instead squeak map?
>
> It is best to use the latest version from squeakMap (which is currently
> Shout.3.15-tween.70)

I would have said that it is best to use an image with everything
up-to-date :-) auto promotion: use a squeak-dev image:
http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev. They are made explicitly for
that.

--
Damien Cassou

Sebastian Sastre-2

RE: To keep := instead of forcing automatically a _ for assingation

Hi Damien,

yeah, that's the fast option. But how do you develop that "distro"
image? I mean, I would be more interested in automatic process of
customizing reliable images. For instance I download the stable squeak
release and use a script for that. Do you make it that way? Make it by hand?
50% 50%?

cheers,

Sebastian Sastre

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] En
> nombre de Damien Cassou
> Enviado el: Martes, 15 de Mayo de 2007 12:25
> Para: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Asunto: Re: To keep := instead of forcing automatically a _
> for assingation
>
> 2007/5/15, Andrew Tween <[hidden email]>:
> > Hi Sebastian,
> > > I was the one who asked and is a 3.9 image and I do use Shout
> > > looking in squeak map the * is in the 4 version. Is that
> old? Should
> > > I better load it from squeaksource instead squeak map?
> >
> > It is best to use the latest version from squeakMap (which is
> > currently
> > Shout.3.15-tween.70)
>
> I would have said that it is best to use an image with
> everything up-to-date :-) auto promotion: use a squeak-dev image:
> http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev. They are made
> explicitly for that.
>
> --
> Damien Cassou
>

Damien Cassou-3

Re: To keep := instead of forcing automatically a _ for assingation

2007/5/15, Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]>:
> Hi Damien,
>
> yeah, that's the fast option. But how do you develop that "distro"
> image? I mean, I would be more interested in automatic process of
> customizing reliable images. For instance I download the stable squeak
> release and use a script for that. Do you make it that way? Make it by hand?
> 50% 50%?

Hi Sebastian,

everything is described here: http://www.squeaksource.com/ImageForDevelopers.

Basically:

1- Open a new image either 3.9 or 3.10.
2- If it's a 3.9 install Universe
3- Install the 'Squeak-dev image' package from the universe (category
Squeak Distributions)
4- Save and close

Nothing manual.

--
Damien Cassou

Lex Spoon-3

Re: To keep := instead of forcing automatically a _ for assingation

In reply to this post by Sebastian Sastre-2

"Sebastian Sastre" <[hidden email]> writes:
> yeah, that's the fast option. But how do you develop that "distro"
> image? I mean, I would be more interested in automatic process of
> customizing reliable images. For instance I download the stable squeak
> release and use a script for that. Do you make it that way? Make it by hand?
> 50% 50%?

Stable images cannot be automated. Somebody has to sort through all
of what is available, test the combination, and report what they found.

A package universe is great for recording a set of current,
believed-stable packages. The definition of "believed-stable" varies
depending on the particular universe.

Lex