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Gary Chambers-4

UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

Just an update... Although business work is busy I am managing to get closer
to a release :-)

I'll be asking some questions next week as to how people want to see things
packaged up and hosted.

In the mean time, some extra screenshots with code examples...

http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213406097/
http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1214268406/
http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213402171/
http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213400147/

Gary at pinesoft.co.uk.

Sebastian Sastre-2

RE: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

Squeak deserves this good looking! Keep that great work man!

cheers,

Sebastian Sastre

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] En
> nombre de Gary Chambers
> Enviado el: Jueves, 23 de Agosto de 2007 11:08
> Para: [hidden email]
> Asunto: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)
>
> Just an update... Although business work is busy I am
> managing to get closer to a release :-)
>
> I'll be asking some questions next week as to how people want
> to see things packaged up and hosted.
>
> In the mean time, some extra screenshots with code examples...
>
> http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213406097/
> http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1214268406/
> http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213402171/
> http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213400147/
>
> Gary at pinesoft.co.uk.
>
>

Damien Cassou-3

Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

In reply to this post by Gary Chambers-4

Very nice. Please release something as soon as possible. I will try an
integration in future releases of squeak-dev.

2007/8/23, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>:

> Just an update... Although business work is busy I am managing to get closer
> to a release :-)
>
> I'll be asking some questions next week as to how people want to see things
> packaged up and hosted.
>
> In the mean time, some extra screenshots with code examples...
>
> http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213406097/
> http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1214268406/
> http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213402171/
> http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213400147/
>
> Gary at pinesoft.co.uk.
>
>
>

--
Damien Cassou

Hilaire Fernandes-4

Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

In reply to this post by Gary Chambers-4

By curiosity. What are you using for layout ? Are you using the Morph
TableLayout mechanism ?

Hilaire

Gary Chambers a écrit :

Gary Chambers-4

RE: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

Generally, yes. Though I have fixed up some of the issues with respect to
minWidth/height on a few morphs...

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Hilaire
Fernandes
Sent: 23 August 2007 10:31 pm
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

By curiosity. What are you using for layout ? Are you using the Morph
TableLayout mechanism ?

Hilaire

Gary Chambers a écrit :

> Just an update... Although business work is busy I am managing to get
> closer to a release :-)
>
> I'll be asking some questions next week as to how people want to see
> things packaged up and hosted.
>
> In the mean time, some extra screenshots with code examples...
>
> http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213406097/
> http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1214268406/
> http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213402171/
> http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213400147/
>
> Gary at pinesoft.co.uk.
>
>
>

Hilaire Fernandes-4

Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

Gary Chambers a écrit :
> Generally, yes. Though I have fixed up some of the issues with respect to
> minWidth/height on a few morphs...

I am curious about that, because with some complex Morph using
TableLayout, I met some rendering problem.

Hilaire

Mikael Kindborg-2

Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

In reply to this post by Damien Cassou-3

Yes, such a good looking development environment out of the box would
surely appeal to developes. And of course make for good looking apps!
Nice to see such examples, great work.
Best, Micke

2007/8/23, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]>:

> Very nice. Please release something as soon as possible. I will try an
> integration in future releases of squeak-dev.
>
> 2007/8/23, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>:
> > Just an update... Although business work is busy I am managing to get closer
> > to a release :-)
> >
> > I'll be asking some questions next week as to how people want to see things
> > packaged up and hosted.
> >
> > In the mean time, some extra screenshots with code examples...
> >
> > http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213406097/
> > http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1214268406/
> > http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213402171/
> > http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213400147/
> >
> > Gary at pinesoft.co.uk.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Damien Cassou
>
>

Fabio Filasieno

Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

On Aug 25, 2007, at 4:10 PM, Mikael Kindborg wrote:

I'm really impressed by the pictures. Great work!!!!

Yes, such a good looking development environment out of the box would

surely appeal to developes. And of course make for good looking apps!

Nice to see such examples, great work.

Best, Micke

2007/8/23, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]>:

Very nice. Please release something as soon as possible. I will try an

integration in future releases of squeak-dev.

2007/8/23, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>:

Just an update... Although business work is busy I am managing to get closer

to a release :-)

I'll be asking some questions next week as to how people want to see things

packaged up and hosted.

In the mean time, some extra screenshots with code examples...

http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213406097/

http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1214268406/

http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213402171/

http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213400147/

Gary at pinesoft.co.uk.

--

Damien Cassou

Fabio Filasieno

.\ Software Developer

Gary Chambers-4

RE: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

In reply to this post by Hilaire Fernandes-4

Join the club! Mostly down to to dodgy min widths/heights...

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Hilaire
Fernandes
Sent: 25 August 2007 11:31 am
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

Gary Chambers a écrit :
> Generally, yes. Though I have fixed up some of the issues with respect
> to minWidth/height on a few morphs...

I am curious about that, because with some complex Morph using
TableLayout, I met some rendering problem.

Hilaire

Gary Chambers-4

RE: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

In reply to this post by Fabio Filasieno

Message

Should be next week for a first release. I'd like to redo some of the icons to avoid licence issues.

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Fabio Filasieno
Sent: 25 August 2007 3:16 pm
To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
Subject: Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

On Aug 25, 2007, at 4:10 PM, Mikael Kindborg wrote:

I'm really impressed by the pictures. Great work!!!!

Yes, such a good looking development environment out of the box would

surely appeal to developes. And of course make for good looking apps!

Nice to see such examples, great work.

Best, Micke

2007/8/23, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]>:

Very nice. Please release something as soon as possible. I will try an

integration in future releases of squeak-dev.

2007/8/23, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>:

Just an update... Although business work is busy I am managing to get closer

to a release :-)

I'll be asking some questions next week as to how people want to see things

packaged up and hosted.

In the mean time, some extra screenshots with code examples...

http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213406097/

http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1214268406/

http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213402171/

http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213400147/

Gary at pinesoft.co.uk.

--

Damien Cassou

Fabio Filasieno

.\ Software Developer

Hilaire Fernandes-4

Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

In reply to this post by Gary Chambers-4

It is great you did that because the Morphic system is worth using, and
in no time you can design whatever UI you want.
I am building a learning plate-form and Morph is a very very very
valuable UI to design interactive artefacts (some references at
http://www.istoa.net with some videos and download)

Hilaire

Gary Chambers a écrit :

> Join the club! Mostly down to to dodgy min widths/heights...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Hilaire
> Fernandes
> Sent: 25 August 2007 11:31 am
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)
>
>
> Gary Chambers a écrit :
>> Generally, yes. Though I have fixed up some of the issues with respect
>> to minWidth/height on a few morphs...
>
> I am curious about that, because with some complex Morph using
> TableLayout, I met some rendering problem.
>
> Hilaire
>
>
>
>

Gary Chambers-4

RE: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

In reply to this post by Gary Chambers-4

Well, I think the Widgets/UITheme stuff is ready for a first release :-)
Tested on a stock 3.9 image, not looked at 3.10 yet...

Consists of two Monticello packages:
The main "Widgets" package including theme support and Morphic
fixes;
An extra ToolBuilder package to integrate the new dialogs into the
environment
(where UIManager is used at any rate, directly or
indirectly).

Looks nicer with Andy Tween's FreeType packages installed though will work
without.

Any suggestions as to how people want the packages submitted?
My SqueakMap account sadly points to an older email and I've forgotten the
password...

If people would like a script for setting preferences I can post here.

Gary.

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gary
Chambers
Sent: 25 August 2007 6:42 pm
To: 'The general-purpose Squeak developers list'
Subject: RE: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

Should be next week for a first release. I'd like to redo some of the icons
to avoid licence issues.
-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Fabio
Filasieno
Sent: 25 August 2007 3:16 pm
To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
Subject: Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

On Aug 25, 2007, at 4:10 PM, Mikael Kindborg wrote:

I'm really impressed by the pictures. Great work!!!!

Yes, such a good looking development environment out of the box would
surely appeal to developes. And of course make for good looking apps!
Nice to see such examples, great work.
Best, Micke

2007/8/23, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]>:
Very nice. Please release something as soon as possible. I will try an
integration in future releases of squeak-dev.

2007/8/23, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>:
Just an update... Although business work is busy I am managing to get closer
to a release :-)

I'll be asking some questions next week as to how people want to see things
packaged up and hosted.

In the mean time, some extra screenshots with code examples...

http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213406097/
http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1214268406/
http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213402171/
http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213400147/

Gary at pinesoft.co.uk.

--
Damien Cassou

Fabio Filasieno
.\ Software Developer

Nicolas Petton

Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

Thank you for doing this !
Maybe you could make Universe packages ?

Nicolas

2007/8/29, Gary Chambers <[hidden email] >:

Well, I think the Widgets/UITheme stuff is ready for a first release :-)
Tested on a stock 3.9 image, not looked at 3.10 yet...

Consists of two Monticello packages:
        The main "Widgets" package including theme support and Morphic
fixes;
        An extra ToolBuilder package to integrate the new dialogs into the
environment
                (where UIManager is used at any rate, directly or
indirectly).

Looks nicer with Andy Tween's FreeType packages installed though will work
without.

Any suggestions as to how people want the packages submitted?
My SqueakMap account sadly points to an older email and I've forgotten the
password...

If people would like a script for setting preferences I can post here.

Gary.

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gary
Chambers
Sent: 25 August 2007 6:42 pm
To: 'The general-purpose Squeak developers list'
Subject: RE: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

Should be next week for a first release. I'd like to redo some of the icons
to avoid licence issues.
-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Fabio
Filasieno
Sent: 25 August 2007 3:16 pm
To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
Subject: Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

On Aug 25, 2007, at 4:10 PM, Mikael Kindborg wrote:

I'm really impressed by the pictures. Great work!!!!

Yes, such a good looking development environment out of the box would
surely appeal to developes. And of course make for good looking apps!
Nice to see such examples, great work.
Best, Micke

2007/8/23, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]>:
Very nice. Please release something as soon as possible. I will try an
integration in future releases of squeak-dev.

2007/8/23, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>:
Just an update... Although business work is busy I am managing to get closer
to a release :-)

I'll be asking some questions next week as to how people want to see things
packaged up and hosted.

In the mean time, some extra screenshots with code examples...

http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213406097/
http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1214268406/
http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213402171/
http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213400147/

Gary at pinesoft.co.uk.

--
Damien Cassou

Fabio Filasieno
.\ Software Developer

--
Nicolas

http://bioskop.wordpress.com

Edgar J. De Cleene

Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

In reply to this post by Gary Chambers-4

El 8/29/07 10:48 AM, "Gary Chambers" <[hidden email]> escribió:

> and Morphic fixes;

Gary:

I suppose you do a Mantis report of ?
This way you Morphic fixes could go to 3.10 ...

Edgar

Gary Chambers-4

RE: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

When I get a chance! ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Edgar J.
De Cleene
Sent: 29 August 2007 3:39 pm
To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
Subject: Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

El 8/29/07 10:48 AM, "Gary Chambers" <[hidden email]> escribió:

> and Morphic fixes;

Gary:

I suppose you do a Mantis report of ?
This way you Morphic fixes could go to 3.10 ...

Edgar

Gary Chambers-4

RE: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

In reply to this post by Gary Chambers-4

Hopefully all sorted now. "User Interface" category on the Development
universe... Let me know if there are any problems...

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gary
Chambers
Sent: 29 August 2007 2:48 pm
To: 'The general-purpose Squeak developers list'
Subject: RE: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

Well, I think the Widgets/UITheme stuff is ready for a first release :-)
Tested on a stock 3.9 image, not looked at 3.10 yet...

Consists of two Monticello packages:
The main "Widgets" package including theme support and Morphic
fixes;
An extra ToolBuilder package to integrate the new dialogs into the
environment
(where UIManager is used at any rate, directly or
indirectly).

Looks nicer with Andy Tween's FreeType packages installed though will work
without.

Any suggestions as to how people want the packages submitted? My SqueakMap
account sadly points to an older email and I've forgotten the password...

If people would like a script for setting preferences I can post here.

Gary.

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gary
Chambers
Sent: 25 August 2007 6:42 pm
To: 'The general-purpose Squeak developers list'
Subject: RE: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

Should be next week for a first release. I'd like to redo some of the icons
to avoid licence issues. -----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Fabio
Filasieno
Sent: 25 August 2007 3:16 pm
To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
Subject: Re: UI (was RE: A couple of simple ergonomic adjustments)

On Aug 25, 2007, at 4:10 PM, Mikael Kindborg wrote:

I'm really impressed by the pictures. Great work!!!!

Yes, such a good looking development environment out of the box would surely
appeal to developes. And of course make for good looking apps! Nice to see
such examples, great work. Best, Micke

2007/8/23, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]>:
Very nice. Please release something as soon as possible. I will try an
integration in future releases of squeak-dev.

2007/8/23, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>:
Just an update... Although business work is busy I am managing to get closer
to a release :-)

I'll be asking some questions next week as to how people want to see things
packaged up and hosted.

In the mean time, some extra screenshots with code examples...

http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213406097/
http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1214268406/
http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213402171/
http://flickr.com/photos/65338133@N00/1213400147/

Gary at pinesoft.co.uk.

--
Damien Cassou

Fabio Filasieno
.\ Software Developer