Ubuntu Linux 9 and unix install

Ok, I'm just trying to install squeak on Ubuntu linux 9.

when I do the make it seems to want to install sqUnixSoundPulseAudio although the readme says
something about OSS being the unix deault and pulse audio an optional install?

However on a base Ubuntu Linux 9 system when it attempts to compile sqUnixSoundPulseAudio.c
it freaks and gives
error: pulse/simple.h: No such file or directory
and we are dead...

So how do I configure it with either no sound?
Or pick some other sound
Or figure out how to get Sound pulse on Ubuntu to make the squeak make logic happy?

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On Friday 15 January 2010 02:46:14 pm John M McIntosh wrote:
> when I do the make it seems to want to install sqUnixSoundPulseAudio
>  although the readme says something about OSS being the unix deault and
>  pulse audio an optional install?
OSS is an obsolete API for sound clients. ALSA API replaced it and now with
pulseaudio. However, these API support OSS clients for backward compatibility.

Do you have libpulse0 (runtime) and libpulse-dev (headers) packages installed?

Subbu

Ok, I was missing the libpulse-dev
now it dies on trying to compile sqUnixPseudoTTYPlugin.c  
error: pty  undeclared


On 2010-01-15, at 1:31 AM, K. K. Subramaniam wrote:

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Well a bit further, I manually deleted the PseudoTTYPlugin from the make file and plugin directory
did sudo squeak install
but when I invoke squeak I get
could not find display driver vm-display-X11; either:
check that /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.10-6/vm-display-X11.so  exists, or  
use the '-plugins <path>' optoin to tell me where it is, or
- remove DISPLAY from your environment

I note that DISPLAY is :0.0
/usr/local/lib/squeak/3.10-6/vm-display-X11   no '.so' exists


On 2010-01-15, at 1:31 AM, K. K. Subramaniam wrote:

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On 15.01.2010, at 11:14, John M McIntosh wrote:
>
>
> Well a bit further, I manually deleted the PseudoTTYPlugin from the make file and plugin directory
> did sudo squeak install
> but when I invoke squeak I get
> could not find display driver vm-display-X11; either:
> check that /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.10-6/vm-display-X11.so  exists,

That message is incorrect, the .so extension is not necessary.

> or  
> use the '-plugins <path>' optoin to tell me where it is, or
> - remove DISPLAY from your environment
>
> I note that DISPLAY is :0.0
> /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.10-6/vm-display-X11   no '.so' exists

Try ldd on that to see if it's missing some library.

We've had this problem before but never got to the ground of it. You might try redoing the full build.

- Bert -

 
Er and how would I redo the full build?

mmm this appears sane? No yes?

johnmci@UbuntuLinux9Parallels:/usr/local/lib/squeak/3.10-6$ ldd vm-display-X11
    linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x0045f000)
    libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x00ca4000)
    libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x0043e000)
    libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x008c4000)
    libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x006a1000)
    libdl.so.2 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0x001be000)
    libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0x0095e000)
    libnsl.so.1 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libnsl.so.1 (0x005c8000)
    libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x00cf8000)
    libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0x001c2000)
    libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x0030f000)
    libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x0050f000)
    /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x008d0000)
    libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x00110000)
    libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00869000)





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On 15.01.2010, at 11:58, John McIntosh wrote:
> Er and how would I redo the full build?

"rm -r builddir" then start over ...

> mmm this appears sane? No yes?

Yes.

You're doing a regular install right? No weird symlinks etc? Next step would be to enable debug info in the external prims file. IIRC just recompiling that solved it for me in one case. As I said, it's odd.

- Bert -

 
Yawn well it is 3 am here so I'll give up until the morning  it was
svn trunk then cd to unix directory and make.  But apparently that
doesn't work, too much magic involved or something

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On 15.01.2010, at 12:12, John McIntosh wrote:
>
>
> Yawn well it is 3 am here so I'll give up until the morning  it was
> svn trunk then cd to unix directory and make.  But apparently that
> doesn't work, too much magic involved or something

Err, I thought trunk was at 3.11 not 3.10-6? Are you mixing VMs?

- Bert -

 
On Friday 15 January 2010 03:44:19 pm John M McIntosh wrote:
> but when I invoke squeak I get
> could not find display driver vm-display-X11; either:
> check that /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.10-6/vm-display-X11.so  exists, or  
> use the '-plugins <path>' optoin to tell me where it is, or
> - remove DISPLAY from your environment
Which version are you using? It looks like the binary is picking up libraries
from an old installation.

You may want to test your build by running:
   $ ./squeak <image>

directly from the bld/ directory. This script will pick up plugins from
<plugin>/so.<plugin> (build area). It will print the plugin paths on the
console so you can verify the locations.

Subbu

 
On 15/01/2010 09:31, K. K. Subramaniam wrote:
OSS isn't obsolete for those of us on non-linux unix systems :P

Well I did according to HowToBuildFromSource.txt
and doesn't the:  >>>Err, I thought trunk was at 3.11 not 3.10-6? Are you mixing VMs?
version number come from what ever the src has  in the trunk via some vmmaker setup done in the past?


first you need

sudo apt-get install subversion
sudo aptitude update
sudo aptitude install build-essential
sudo apt-get install xorg-dev
" Install pulse audio stuff"
sudo apt-get source pulseaudio    "and other stuff?"

Now do the simple thing:
svn co http://squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/trunk squeak
cd squeak/platforms/unix
make
sudo make install

$ squeak
could not find display driver vm-display-X11; either:
  - check that /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.10-6/vm-display-X11.so exists, or
  - use the '-plugins <path>' option to tell me where it is, or
  - remove DISPLAY from your environment.
Aborted

So this morning I did the more complex thing.
 
  265  cd squeak-svn/
  266  ls
  267  mkdir bld
  268  cd bld
  269  ../platforms/unix/config/configure
  270  make
  271  sudo make install
  272  squeak


**** same error ****
 
ldd squeak
    linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x009e4000)
    libutil.so.1 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libutil.so.1 (0x00b55000)
    libdl.so.2 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0x0012b000)
    libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0x002b2000)
    libnsl.so.1 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libnsl.so.1 (0x00eba000)
    libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0x0012f000)
    /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00313000)

ldd /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.10-6/vm-display-X11         linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x009dc000)
    libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x00bbf000)
    libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x002de000)
    libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x00687000)
    libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x00b34000)
    libdl.so.2 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0x001af000)
    libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0x00cfc000)
    libnsl.so.1 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libnsl.so.1 (0x00fe0000)
    libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x0077e000)
    libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0x002ee000)
    libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x00110000)
    libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x00a3f000)
    /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00e85000)
    libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x00114000)
    libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00132000)


On 2010-01-15, at 3:18 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:

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Ok  bld is the directory where
-rwxr-xr-x 1 johnmci johnmci 2226348 2010-01-15 11:07 squeak


/bld$ ./squeak
could not find display driver vm-display-X11; either:
  - check that /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.10-6/vm-display-X11.so exists, or
  - use the '-plugins <path>' option to tell me where it is, or
  - remove DISPLAY from your environment.
Aborted


On 2010-01-15, at 3:42 AM, K. K. Subramaniam wrote:

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Am 15.01.2010 um 20:52 schrieb John M McIntosh:
I think here is one mistake: Ian changed the UNIX build process to cmake some weeks ago.
So you need the configure script located in ../platforms/unix/cmake/

Regards,
Andreas
>
>

Ah, yes ok, now it works.  I see it has been  updated on the squeakvm build unix page, but it is NOT updated in the build instructions doc.

So if you follow the build instructions or the README  it fails to work, clues to why are non-existant.


On 2010-01-15, at 12:01 PM, Andreas Wacknitz wrote:

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Just to note there may still be a problem with PulseAudio on Ubuntu
9.10. The PA plugin for Squeak uses PA's "simple" API and worked fine
until 9.10. I made one unsuccessful attempt to get it working again
earlier this month but will look into it again soon.


On 15/01/2010 21:54, John M McIntosh wrote:

 
On Saturday 16 January 2010 12:05:01 am Douglas Brebner wrote: True. No offence intended. It is only obsolete on Linux (the topic of this
thread).

Subbu

 
On 16/01/2010 04:49, K. K. Subramaniam wrote:
No offence taken, I just like to do my bit to stem the tide of
unix=linux thinking :)

 
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010, K. K. Subramaniam wrote:

OSS 3 is obsolete, but OSS 4 is not.


Levente

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> Subbu
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