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marcel.taeumel

Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working

Hi, there!

Until recently, source.squeak.org/squeak46 was a redirection to trunk. Now it isn't anymore and my Squeak quits the updating process with a "Unable to retrieve updates from a remote repository."

Is it a cache thingy? How to fix it?

Best,
Marcel

Levente Uzonyi-2

Re: Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working

Chris Muller has created the actual 4.6 repository 10 days ago, so the old
redirect is gone for good. That repository is not suitable to update a 4.5
image (or trunk image), it will only work with the - to be released - 4.6
images.
I wonder what's missing to get 4.6 released.

Levente

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015, marcel.taeumel wrote:

> Hi, there!
>
> Until recently, source.squeak.org/squeak46 was a redirection to trunk. Now
> it isn't anymore and my Squeak quits the updating process with a "Unable to
> retrieve updates from a remote repository."
>
> Is it a cache thingy? How to fix it?
>
> Best,
> Marcel
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Updating-Squeak-4-6-stopped-working-tp4832386.html
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>
>

marcel.taeumel

Re: Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working

I have a working 4.6 image here. Just wanted to get the latest stuff. I am not trying to update from a 4.5 to 4.6 here. :-)

Best,
Marcel

Chris Muller-3

Re: Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working

> I have a working 4.6 image here. Just wanted to get the latest stuff. I am
> not trying to update from a 4.5 to 4.6 here. :-)

The latest stuff for 4.6 is still in the trunk repository. Update
from trunk until 4.6 is released.

Chris Muller-3

Re: Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working

In reply to this post by Levente Uzonyi-2

> I wonder what's missing to get 4.6 released.

- The regression with Warning needs to be fixed.
- Final VM package(s) from Eliot with included man page, "-version"
output fix, and your SqueakSSL plugin.
- Once we have the above two, we need to make the All-In-One.

David T. Lewis

Re: Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:30:25AM -0500, Chris Muller wrote:
> > I wonder what's missing to get 4.6 released.
>

Good, this is a short list.

> - The regression with Warning needs to be fixed.

Sorry for having to ask, but can you give a pointer to the issue? Thanks.

> - Final VM package(s) from Eliot with included man page, "-version"
> output fix, and your SqueakSSL plugin.

I'd be quite happy with whichever version Eliot says is good. We need
a good stable VM version to correspond with the image release, and to
use in th all-in-one. Beyond that, the Cog and Spur development are clearly
progressing at a rapid pace, and we should expect that some folks will
want to continue to update to the latest versions, for example if they
are interested in an updated SqueakSSL plugin. So from my perspective,
if Eliot points to VM.r3370 and says it's done, then it's done :-)

> - Once we have the above two, we need to make the All-In-One.

Hopefully this can be an update from the 4.5 All-In-One.

Thanks Chris!

Dave

marcel.taeumel

Re: Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working

http://forum.world.st/Is-this-a-bug-with-Step-quot-Over-quot-td4830736.html

Best,
Marcel

Chris Muller-3

Re: Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working

It appears to happen under the interpreter VM as well, so my thought
is the cause is image related..

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 2:38 AM, marcel.taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> http://forum.world.st/Is-this-a-bug-with-Step-quot-Over-quot-td4830736.html
>
> Best,
> Marcel
>
>
>
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> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Updating-Squeak-4-6-stopped-working-tp4832386p4832581.html
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>

marcel.taeumel

Re: Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working

How can we create a diff of Debugger, BlockClosure, and Process classes (and their superclasses)?

Best,
Marcel

Bert Freudenberg

How to compare versions (was Re: Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working)

On 17.06.2015, at 09:48, marcel.taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> How can we create a diff of Debugger, BlockClosure, and Process classes (and
> their superclasses)?

Using MC’s history tool you can compare a package to an older version:

Unfortunately you need to do this for each package again, and you see the diff for all classes in the package.

Or you could make an MC package containing just the classes you want. See attachment. File this into the new image, save the ‘Foo’ package. File changeset into old image, view changes vs. the ‘Foo-xy.1’ you just saved.

This would actually be an idea for a new tool: you could add a class and say “compare to release x.y” which would find the right package version, build a diff, and filter it for this class … Couldn’t your “vivide” do that? ;)

- Bert -

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Karl Ramberg

Re: Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working

In reply to this post by marcel.taeumel

With history of package in MonticelloBrowser you can see changes/diff to working copy.

It's not tracking diff on class level but package level.

Karl

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:48 AM, marcel.taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:

How can we create a diff of Debugger, BlockClosure, and Process classes (and
their superclasses)?

Best,
Marcel

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Karl Ramberg

Re: How to compare versions (was Re: Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working)

In reply to this post by Bert Freudenberg

Ah,

Bert already answered this :-)

Karl

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 17.06.2015, at 09:48, marcel.taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> How can we create a diff of Debugger, BlockClosure, and Process classes (and
> their superclasses)?

Using MC’s history tool you can compare a package to an older version:

Unfortunately you need to do this for each package again, and you see the diff for all classes in the package.

Or you could make an MC package containing just the classes you want. See attachment. File this into the new image, save the ‘Foo’ package. File changeset into old image, view changes vs. the ‘Foo-xy.1’ you just saved.

This would actually be an idea for a new tool: you could add a class and say “compare to release x.y” which would find the right package version, build a diff, and filter it for this class … Couldn’t your “vivide” do that? ;)

- Bert -

Karl Ramberg

Re: How to compare versions (was Re: Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working)

And there is a bug if you select 'search history' when <working copy> is selected.

Karl

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:02 PM, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ah,
Bert already answered this :-)

Karl

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
On 17.06.2015, at 09:48, marcel.taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> How can we create a diff of Debugger, BlockClosure, and Process classes (and
> their superclasses)?

Using MC’s history tool you can compare a package to an older version:

Unfortunately you need to do this for each package again, and you see the diff for all classes in the package.

Or you could make an MC package containing just the classes you want. See attachment. File this into the new image, save the ‘Foo’ package. File changeset into old image, view changes vs. the ‘Foo-xy.1’ you just saved.

This would actually be an idea for a new tool: you could add a class and say “compare to release x.y” which would find the right package version, build a diff, and filter it for this class … Couldn’t your “vivide” do that? ;)

- Bert -

Chris Muller-3

Re: Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working

In reply to this post by marcel.taeumel

One way would be to diff the packages from 4.5-13686, but you will get
a lot of extra stuff, but maybe filtering will help..?

Kernel-cwp.844 --> Kernel-eem.929 "BlockClosure and Process diffs"
Tools

Wait! Here's another clue. I just tried it in a MVC project and it
seems to behave correctly..! So maybe it is something in
Tools-Morphic..?

Tools-cmm.519 --> Tools-mt.625 "Debugger diffs"

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:48 AM, marcel.taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> How can we create a diff of Debugger, BlockClosure, and Process classes (and
> their superclasses)?
>
> Best,
> Marcel
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Updating-Squeak-4-6-stopped-working-tp4832386p4832757.html
> Sent from the Squeak - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

marcel.taeumel

Re: Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working

Same behavior in MVC land here. Three Warning-Debuggers pop-up immediately. Even one more with nil DNU #findContextSuchThat: because the process seems to have no suspendedContext... *hmpf*

Best,
Marcel

Chris Muller-3

Re: Updating Squeak 4.6 stopped working

> Same behavior in MVC land here. Three Warning-Debuggers pop-up immediately.

Woops, yes, you're right. I had tweaked the script to use Halt
instead and forgot to change it back to Warning signal. Sorry for the
confusion..