Use of the Scratch program in the UK? (Re: [squeak-dev] The Inbox: Nebraska-tpr.42.mcz)

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Use of the Scratch program in the UK? (Re: [squeak-dev] The Inbox: Nebraska-tpr.42.mcz)

Hannes Hirzel
On 11/24/15, David T. Lewis <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:30:44PM +0100, karl ramberg wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:17 PM, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > > On 23-11-2015, at 1:16 PM, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Is this so that Scratch users won't have to see the pre-debugger?
>> >
>> > Nah,  the Scratch code handles it in ScratchSoundRecroderDialog or
>> > some-such. These couple of changes are simply suggestions for more
>> > politely
>> > handling a possible problem in a way that is a touch less painful than
>> > a
>> > primitiveFailed within a critical block. If people prefer the plain
>> > notifier for an unhandled Warning, fine.
>> >
>> > ChatNotes etc are not used by Scratch - though enabling group chat
>> > could
>> > be fun...
>> >
>> > >  If
>> > > a Scratch kid gets a debugger and clicks "Debug" isntead of
>> > > "Abanadon".  They might get confused or they might learn something..?
>> >
>> > I suspect a teacher of a class of 30-40 8 year olds trying to keep
>> > their
>> > minds on the required lesson might not see it as at all amusing.
>> > Remember,
>> > Scratch usage is now part of the national curriculum in the UK.
>> >
>>
>> Oh, that's really big.
>> Hope they enjoy it :-)
>>
>
> Indeed, it sounds like a pretty big deal, but not something that I would
> have remembered since I did not know about it in the first place. Tim,
> can you provide a link to "Scratch usage is now part of the national
> curriculum in the UK"?

So far I found

http://www.naace.co.uk/curriculum/primaryguide

Page 14 shows a screen with scratch. This is  from an association of
UK ICT teachers.

There are web pages from the UK government but I did not find the reference yet.

--Hannes


> And when they say "Scratch" does it mean the real one, or the "improved"
> version that was reimplemented in a soon-to-be-dead language by wannabe
> IT managers?
>
> Dave
>
>
>

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Re: Use of the Scratch program in the UK? (Re: [squeak-dev] The Inbox: Nebraska-tpr.42.mcz)

Hannes Hirzel
On 11/24/15, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 11/24/15, David T. Lewis <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:30:44PM +0100, karl ramberg wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:17 PM, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > > On 23-11-2015, at 1:16 PM, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Is this so that Scratch users won't have to see the pre-debugger?
>>> >
>>> > Nah,  the Scratch code handles it in ScratchSoundRecroderDialog or
>>> > some-such. These couple of changes are simply suggestions for more
>>> > politely
>>> > handling a possible problem in a way that is a touch less painful than
>>> > a
>>> > primitiveFailed within a critical block. If people prefer the plain
>>> > notifier for an unhandled Warning, fine.
>>> >
>>> > ChatNotes etc are not used by Scratch - though enabling group chat
>>> > could
>>> > be fun...
>>> >
>>> > >  If
>>> > > a Scratch kid gets a debugger and clicks "Debug" isntead of
>>> > > "Abanadon".  They might get confused or they might learn
>>> > > something..?
>>> >
>>> > I suspect a teacher of a class of 30-40 8 year olds trying to keep
>>> > their
>>> > minds on the required lesson might not see it as at all amusing.
>>> > Remember,
>>> > Scratch usage is now part of the national curriculum in the UK.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Oh, that's really big.
>>> Hope they enjoy it :-)
>>>
>>
>> Indeed, it sounds like a pretty big deal, but not something that I would
>> have remembered since I did not know about it in the first place. Tim,
>> can you provide a link to "Scratch usage is now part of the national
>> curriculum in the UK"?
>
> So far I found
>
> http://www.naace.co.uk/curriculum/primaryguide
>
> Page 14 shows a screen with scratch. This is  from an association of
> UK ICT teachers.
>
> There are web pages from the UK government but I did not find the reference
> yet.

And here an announcement for teachers to learn about Scratch in Jan 2016

https://www.sciencelearningcentres.org.uk/cpd/ondemand/fc0b576e-61a4-46b8-a4de-943f1fa02124/delivering-the-coding-elements-of-the-national-curriculum-at-ks2/


"Experience a number of different methods to develop both your skills
in Scratch and the teaching techniques that you can use to make it
work for you and your students."

"This course takes you through the principles of the computing
curriculum  coding programming, giving you ‘hand on’ opportunities to
experience a number of different methods  hands on time to develop
both your skills in Scratch and the teaching techniques that you can
use to make it work for you and your students. In 2 days, we will take
you from creating simple programs to the exciting coded world of
creating your own computer games."



> --Hannes
>
>
>> And when they say "Scratch" does it mean the real one, or the "improved"
>> version that was reimplemented in a soon-to-be-dead language by wannabe
>> IT managers?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>