User account for squeak wiki.squeak.org

> I am trying to edit a page but I can't find the place to
> create a user account.
>
> When I click the edit button in some page from the wiki,
> Iceweasel (Debian's unbranded Firefox) ask for a username and a password.
>
> When I click the history button, I get a list of changes and in the
> user column I see strings like:
>
> ACCF7AF4.ipt.aol.com
>
> so this makes me think that the edition of pages it is open and your
> IP address is used as your username.
> But, the problem is, I can't pass the user/password request.
>
> The user/password dialog says:
>
> http://wiki.squeak.org solicita un usuario y contraseña. El sitio dice:
> "/squeak/*"
>
> Something like:
>
> http://wiki.squeak.org needs a username and password. The site says:
> "/squeak/*"
>
> And if I click the cancel button it responds with:
>
> Unauthorized for: /squeak/*
>
> Can you please tell me what is the process to edit a page in the
> wiki.squeak.org?
>
> Thanks,
> Miguel Cobá
> _______________________________________________
> Beginners mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
>

>I am trying to edit a page but I can't find the place to
>create a user account.
>
>When I click the edit button in some page from the wiki,
>Iceweasel (Debian's unbranded Firefox) ask for a username and a password.
>
>When I click the history button, I get a list of changes and in the
>user column I see strings like:
>
>ACCF7AF4.ipt.aol.com
>
>so this makes me think that the edition of pages it is open and your
>IP address is used as your username.
>But, the problem is, I can't pass the user/password request.
>
>The user/password dialog says:
>
>http://wiki.squeak.org solicita un usuario y contrasena. El sitio dice:
>"/squeak/*"
>
>Something like:
>
>http://wiki.squeak.org needs a username and password. The site says:
>"/squeak/*"
>
>And if I click the cancel button it responds with:
>
>Unauthorized for: /squeak/*
>
>Can you please tell me what is the process to edit a page in the
>wiki.squeak.org?
>
>Thanks,
>Miguel Coba

> Currently, according to the Squeak Swiki entry for "Squeak
> Documentation Team" [1] (see http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808),
> editing the Swiki is protected by a very simple common password
> protection scheme, as follows:
>
> >The Swiki is password-protected to discourage vandalism.
> >
> >    * Username: squeak
> >    * Password: viewpoints
>
> Unfortunately, when a user clicks the "history" link at the top of an
> Swiki page, the user obtains a list of changes with the users listed
> by IP address/DNS entry, for example, as follows:
>
> >chfwpr03.ch.intel.com
>
> However, this does not allow a unique identifier to be associated with
> a user if the user logs in from multiple IP addresses/DNS entries. For
> example, I have a Macintosh at home and a Wintel machine at work, and
> I wish to associate a unique identifier to updates that I make from
> both machines.
>

> This would allow me to certify authorship for any articles that I
> write, providing additional motivation to write more entries.
>
> Is there any way to associate a unique user identifier, listed in the
> page that is generated when the "history" button at the top of an
> Swiki entry is clicked, to all edits that I make to the Swiki?  If
> not, are there any plans for this in the future?
>
> (Otherwise, for example, it is not clear how to attribute changes
> conveniently for universal edits; in particular, it is not clear how
> to attribute changes conveniently for inline edits in large blocks of
> text, where there is no convenient surrounding text to place a
> username; or for minor but significant punctuational changes, such as
> substituting a semicolon for a comma, where the space occupied by a
> manually inserted entry claiming authorship would significantly exceed
> the space occupied by the change itself--a rather inelegant solution;
> there should be a way to claim credit for Swiki contributions.)
>
> -- Benjamin L. Russell
>
> [1] Fulmer, Matthew, Aaron Reichow, Andrew Lawson, and Max OrHai.
> "Squeak Documentation Team." _Squeak Swiki._ Squeak.org. 8 June 2007.
> 17 July 2009. <http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808>.
>
> On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:17:19 -0600, Miguel Enrique Coba Martinez
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >I am trying to edit a page but I can't find the place to
> >create a user account.
> >
> >When I click the edit button in some page from the wiki,
> >Iceweasel (Debian's unbranded Firefox) ask for a username and a password.
> >
> >When I click the history button, I get a list of changes and in the
> >user column I see strings like:
> >
> >ACCF7AF4.ipt.aol.com
> >
> >so this makes me think that the edition of pages it is open and your
> >IP address is used as your username.
> >But, the problem is, I can't pass the user/password request.
> >
> >The user/password dialog says:
> >
> >http://wiki.squeak.org solicita un usuario y contrasena. El sitio dice:
> >"/squeak/*"
> >
> >Something like:
> >
> >http://wiki.squeak.org needs a username and password. The site says:
> >"/squeak/*"
> >
> >And if I click the cancel button it responds with:
> >
> >Unauthorized for: /squeak/*
> >
> >Can you please tell me what is the process to edit a page in the
> >wiki.squeak.org?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Miguel Coba

>> I wish to associate a unique identifier to updates that I make from
>> both machines.
>>
>
> This was discussed in the squeak board blog a few weeks ago. I pointed
> that we need a better platform for the wiki, one where the users are
> more inclined to contibute, even if the platform isn't made with
> smalltalk. I think that the board is open to use other technologies but
> I feel that there is a bias towards smalltalk technologies. I don't care
> of the technology (almost, but at least free software) while it have the
> capabilities and functionality necessary for the job. I think that the
> swiki lacks a *lot* of features you can find in several wiki platforms
> of today. Also, the smalltalk community doesn't have the people and
> resources to rewrite and be on par to other wikis.
> But that is just my opinion. The board has the last word.
>
> Cheers,
> Miguel Cobá
>> This would allow me to certify authorship for any articles that I
>> write, providing additional motivation to write more entries.
>>
>> Is there any way to associate a unique user identifier, listed in the
>> page that is generated when the "history" button at the top of an
>> Swiki entry is clicked, to all edits that I make to the Swiki?  If
>> not, are there any plans for this in the future?
>>
>> (Otherwise, for example, it is not clear how to attribute changes
>> conveniently for universal edits; in particular, it is not clear how
>> to attribute changes conveniently for inline edits in large blocks of
>> text, where there is no convenient surrounding text to place a
>> username; or for minor but significant punctuational changes, such as
>> substituting a semicolon for a comma, where the space occupied by a
>> manually inserted entry claiming authorship would significantly exceed
>> the space occupied by the change itself--a rather inelegant solution;
>> there should be a way to claim credit for Swiki contributions.)
>>
>> -- Benjamin L. Russell
>>
>> [1] Fulmer, Matthew, Aaron Reichow, Andrew Lawson, and Max OrHai.
>> "Squeak Documentation Team." _Squeak Swiki._ Squeak.org. 8 June 2007.
>> 17 July 2009. <http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808>.
>>
>> On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:17:19 -0600, Miguel Enrique Coba Martinez
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> >I am trying to edit a page but I can't find the place to
>> >create a user account.
>> >
>> >When I click the edit button in some page from the wiki,
>> >Iceweasel (Debian's unbranded Firefox) ask for a username and a password.
>> >
>> >When I click the history button, I get a list of changes and in the
>> >user column I see strings like:
>> >
>> >ACCF7AF4.ipt.aol.com
>> >
>> >so this makes me think that the edition of pages it is open and your
>> >IP address is used as your username.
>> >But, the problem is, I can't pass the user/password request.
>> >
>> >The user/password dialog says:
>> >
>> >http://wiki.squeak.org solicita un usuario y contrasena. El sitio dice:
>> >"/squeak/*"
>> >
>> >Something like:
>> >
>> >http://wiki.squeak.org needs a username and password. The site says:
>> >"/squeak/*"
>> >
>> >And if I click the cancel button it responds with:
>> >
>> >Unauthorized for: /squeak/*
>> >
>> >Can you please tell me what is the process to edit a page in the
>> >wiki.squeak.org?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Miguel Coba
>
> _______________________________________________
> Beginners mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
>

>[...]
>
>As to a unique identifier. The right unique identifier on a wiki is a
>page. The approach from Ward's original WikiWikiWeb (where much of the
>original Squeak wiki content was hosted before we had a wiki server).
>Create a page for yourself and then add a link to pages you edit.
>
>For example, my page is:
>http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/17
>
>If you go to that page, you can see the pages I've signed.
>
>If you go to those pages, you can see a link to my page.

>
>
>
>>> I wish to associate a unique identifier to updates that I make from
>>> both machines.
>>>
>>
>> This was discussed in the squeak board blog a few weeks ago. I pointed
>> that we need a better platform for the wiki, one where the users are
>> more inclined to contibute, even if the platform isn't made with
>> smalltalk. I think that the board is open to use other technologies but
>> I feel that there is a bias towards smalltalk technologies. I don't care
>> of the technology (almost, but at least free software) while it have the
>> capabilities and functionality necessary for the job. I think that the
>> swiki lacks a *lot* of features you can find in several wiki platforms
>> of today. Also, the smalltalk community doesn't have the people and
>> resources to rewrite and be on par to other wikis.
>> But that is just my opinion. The board has the last word.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Miguel Coba
>>> This would allow me to certify authorship for any articles that I
>>> write, providing additional motivation to write more entries.
>>>
>>> Is there any way to associate a unique user identifier, listed in the
>>> page that is generated when the "history" button at the top of an
>>> Swiki entry is clicked, to all edits that I make to the Swiki? ?If
>>> not, are there any plans for this in the future?
>>>
>>> (Otherwise, for example, it is not clear how to attribute changes
>>> conveniently for universal edits; in particular, it is not clear how
>>> to attribute changes conveniently for inline edits in large blocks of
>>> text, where there is no convenient surrounding text to place a
>>> username; or for minor but significant punctuational changes, such as
>>> substituting a semicolon for a comma, where the space occupied by a
>>> manually inserted entry claiming authorship would significantly exceed
>>> the space occupied by the change itself--a rather inelegant solution;
>>> there should be a way to claim credit for Swiki contributions.)
>>>
>>> -- Benjamin L. Russell
>>>
>>> [1] Fulmer, Matthew, Aaron Reichow, Andrew Lawson, and Max OrHai.
>>> "Squeak Documentation Team." _Squeak Swiki._ Squeak.org. 8 June 2007.
>>> 17 July 2009. <http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808>.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:17:19 -0600, Miguel Enrique Coba Martinez
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I am trying to edit a page but I can't find the place to
>>> >create a user account.
>>> >
>>> >When I click the edit button in some page from the wiki,
>>> >Iceweasel (Debian's unbranded Firefox) ask for a username and a password.
>>> >
>>> >When I click the history button, I get a list of changes and in the
>>> >user column I see strings like:
>>> >
>>> >ACCF7AF4.ipt.aol.com
>>> >
>>> >so this makes me think that the edition of pages it is open and your
>>> >IP address is used as your username.
>>> >But, the problem is, I can't pass the user/password request.
>>> >
>>> >The user/password dialog says:
>>> >
>>> >http://wiki.squeak.org solicita un usuario y contrasena. El sitio dice:
>>> >"/squeak/*"
>>> >
>>> >Something like:
>>> >
>>> >http://wiki.squeak.org needs a username and password. The site says:
>>> >"/squeak/*"
>>> >
>>> >And if I click the cancel button it responds with:
>>> >
>>> >Unauthorized for: /squeak/*
>>> >
>>> >Can you please tell me what is the process to edit a page in the
>>> >wiki.squeak.org?
>>> >
>>> >Thanks,
>>> >Miguel Coba
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Beginners mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
>>

>> Since each edit changes the meaning of the sentence significantly, it
>> should be credited with the name of the editor and the time and data
>> of the edit.  However, each such credit vastly exceeds the space of
>> the edit itself.
>
> I think you are solving a hypothetical problem. Something that arcane
> would probably need more than the single letter to note the meaning of
> the change.
>
> But, if you think this is a barrier keeping the wiki back, what is
> your solution?
>
> Is there some other wiki software that solves this issue? Or forum software?
> _______________________________________________
> Beginners mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
>

>> Since each edit changes the meaning of the sentence significantly, it
>> should be credited with the name of the editor and the time and data
>> of the edit. ?However, each such credit vastly exceeds the space of
>> the edit itself.
>
>I think you are solving a hypothetical problem. Something that arcane
>would probably need more than the single letter to note the meaning of
>the change.
>
>But, if you think this is a barrier keeping the wiki back, what is
>your solution?
>
>Is there some other wiki software that solves this issue? Or forum software?

> On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:52:42 -0500, David Mitchell
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>> Since each edit changes the meaning of the sentence significantly, it
>>> should be credited with the name of the editor and the time and data
>>> of the edit. ?However, each such credit vastly exceeds the space of
>>> the edit itself.
>>
>>I think you are solving a hypothetical problem. Something that arcane
>>would probably need more than the single letter to note the meaning of
>>the change.
>>
>>But, if you think this is a barrier keeping the wiki back, what is
>>your solution?
>>
>>Is there some other wiki software that solves this issue? Or forum software?
>
> MediaWiki [1] provides this kind of functionality, and powers
> Wikipedia.  Other programming language wikis powered by MediaWiki
> include HaskellWiki [2] and Clean Wiki [3] as well.
>
> I have used all three wikis extensively, and find this tool extremely
> convenient for wiki editing.  In addition to providing a separate
> revision history page for each wiki page, it provides various kinds of
> markup tools, useful for highlighting and referencing.
>
> Since each change is automatically logged and listed and can be
> summarized, the tool provides motivation for contributors to submit
> even minor edits and corrections, in addition to new material, and
> since each edited version can be compared for changes with the
> previous version and undone, it discourages vandalism.  I usually look
> for a relevant wiki based on this system whenever I need to contribute
> material on a programming language.
>
> -- Benjamin L. Russell
>
> [1] Manske, Magnus, Brion Vibber, Lee Daniel Crocker, Tim Starling,
> Erik Mo"ller et al. "MediaWiki." MediaWiki.org. 16 Aug. 2005. 22 July
> 2009. <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki>.
>
> [2] "Version - HaskellWiki." HaskellWiki. Haskell.org. 1 Jan. 2006. 22
> July 2009. <http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Special:Version>.
>
> [3] "Version - clean." Clean Wiki. Software Technology Research Group.
> 13 Feb. 2008. 22 July 2009.
> <http://wiki.clean.cs.ru.nl/Special:Version>.
> --
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>
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