Hi again.
I'm trying to get an usable squeak on my PDA(1). Here are the results at the moment without changes. I got SqueakLight.406 from ftp://squeak.cobss.ch/pub/SqueakLight/ Then I copied to my iPaq on a directory Squeak on the storage card with the squeakvm for WinCe, thanks to Yoshiki Ohshima (2) and SqueakV3.sources from the Squeak3.8 image file. Now, the squeak image runs, and don't very bad, but needs some changes. The first problem is the space. In a pocketpc 30MB (10MB squeaklight, 15MB sources) is a lot of space on storage, and RAM. Then, is needed to change the systems fonts, etc...to take a good look in the little screen. And then, we need to change something to the browsers looks good in the 320x200 screen (on PDA with QVGA screens, 640x480 on VGA screens) Squeak is not running at fullscreen because I'm not capable to make the screenshots then, because the Hardware keys don't work (disabled by the VM?) I will post my advances. Here are some screenshots http://lordzealon.com/squeak/01-launching.bmp http://lordzealon.com/squeak/02-launching2.bmp http://lordzealon.com/squeak/03-memory.bmp http://lordzealon.com/squeak/04-world.bmp http://lordzealon.com/squeak/05-worldmenu.bmp http://lordzealon.com/squeak/06-openingbrowser.bmp http://lordzealon.com/squeak/07-browser.bmp http://lordzealon.com/squeak/08-browserfullscreen.bmp (1) HP iPAQ 4150 - 400 mhz processor - 64MB ram - SD card 512MB - QVGA screen (320x200) - OS: PocketPC 2003 (2) http://www.is.titech.ac.jp/~ohshima/squeak/WinCE/ -- ::Mi blog:: http://blog.lordzealon.com Linux-User: #370919 |
Hola,
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Lord ZealoN wrote: > I got SqueakLight.406 from ftp://squeak.cobss.ch/pub/SqueakLight/ There are other images. I included some links to some- go back and read my posts about Squeak on the Nokia 770. The Nokia 770 is a Linux-based PDA/internet tablet with a slower CPU, only 220 MHz. You'd be surprised, and how fast- and capable- an older Squeak image is on a PDA in Morphic. > The first problem is the space. In a pocketpc 30MB (10MB squeaklight, > 15MB sources) is a lot of space on storage, and RAM. Ditch the sources. I've never bothered to use a sources file when coding or using an app on a PDA. Frankly, I've not missed it. You don't get comments, but Squeak does a pretty good job of making me never notice. I wrote about 60% of the code I wrote for Dynapad on the PDA itself and it never got to me once. Mind you, I was working with a device with only 16 MB of RAM, though all files were on a CF card. While I've used images as big as 30 MB on various PDAs, I reccomend sticking to images 10 MB or less, including what apps you want to run, on a CE PDA like you are using. > Then, is needed to change the systems fonts, etc...to take a good look > in the little screen. And then, we need to change something to the > browsers looks good in the 320x200 screen (on PDA with QVGA screens, > 640x480 on VGA screens) I recommend the Lucy font. I use it when using any device with a small screen and low res, like your PDA. I don't bother on similar devices with VGA screens, where you just can use any old font at 12-16 pt. When I use a QVGA Device with Squeak, Lucy is the font I use for most things, window titles excepted. Heh, I googled this wondering if it was still findable via Google. Sure enough, it's on SqueakMap even. But was surprised me is that I am the owner, and it's in my webspace. I mean, I just completely forgot about this. Anyway, it's a great font to these kinds of devices. Regards, Aaron [hidden email] || rev in #squeak on irc.freenode.net "Liberty will not descend to a people, a people must raise themselves to Liberty." -- Emma Goldman |
Aaron Reichow escribió:
> Hola, > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Lord ZealoN wrote: > > >> I got SqueakLight.406 from ftp://squeak.cobss.ch/pub/SqueakLight/ >> > > There are other images. I included some links to some- go back and read > my posts about Squeak on the Nokia 770. The Nokia 770 is a Linux-based > PDA/internet tablet with a slower CPU, only 220 MHz. > > You'd be surprised, and how fast- and capable- an older Squeak image is on > a PDA in Morphic. > > >> The first problem is the space. In a pocketpc 30MB (10MB squeaklight, >> 15MB sources) is a lot of space on storage, and RAM. >> > > Ditch the sources. I've never bothered to use a sources file when coding > or using an app on a PDA. Frankly, I've not missed it. You don't get > comments, but Squeak does a pretty good job of making me never notice. I > wrote about 60% of the code I wrote for Dynapad on the PDA itself and it > never got to me once. Mind you, I was working with a device with only 16 > MB of RAM, though all files were on a CF card. While I've used images as > big as 30 MB on various PDAs, I reccomend sticking to images 10 MB or > less, including what apps you want to run, on a CE PDA like you are using. > to do without packages (I don't know what, I'm new here) thath a PDA don't need. > >> Then, is needed to change the systems fonts, etc...to take a good look >> in the little screen. And then, we need to change something to the >> browsers looks good in the 320x200 screen (on PDA with QVGA screens, >> 640x480 on VGA screens) >> > > I recommend the Lucy font. I use it when using any device with a small > screen and low res, like your PDA. I don't bother on similar devices with > VGA screens, where you just can use any old font at 12-16 pt. When I use a > QVGA Device with Squeak, Lucy is the font I use for most things, window > titles excepted. > mailed? > Heh, I googled this wondering if it was still findable via Google. Sure > enough, it's on SqueakMap even. But was surprised me is that I am the > owner, and it's in my webspace. I mean, I just completely forgot about > this. Anyway, it's a great font to these kinds of devices. > I will chek it too. > Regards, > Aaron Thanks for interesting on my "project" and for the tips. See you. -- Giuseppe Luigi Punzi Linux User: #370919 http://blog.lordzealon.com |
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